bush. followed by a recent interview first lady. t onr tonight, evan faye liberals and the media. ♪ >> did i feel prepared? yes. i did notice the difference between being the vice president's wife and the president's wife is huge because the vice president's wife can say anything and nobody cares. the minute you say one thing as the president's wife, you have made the news. >> barbara bush used the office of first lady to promote literacy and to raise awareness about aids and homelessness. she earned her way into the history books. she and abigail adams are the only women to be both a wife and mother of a president. welcome to "first ladies: influence and image." tonight is the story of barbara bush. for the next 90 minutes, to tell us more about her life and influence are two guests. the barbara bush biographer, part of the series we have turned to so often. she is a first ladies scholar. jeffrey engel is the founding director of the center for presidential history at southern methodist un

bush. ever.hen she came to the white house, she told her press secretary that there were three areas where you'd better keep hands off her fellow, family, and her dogs. that followed through. andwas very concerned reacted sometimes very quickly if there was criticism of george bush. and the children. >> we are going to invite you to participate in our discussion tonight. we have a conversation underway on our facebook page. you can join that. tweetn also tweak us -- us. and you can call us. we have our lines divided geographically. we will try to get as many comments from as many different media as we can tonight. let's understand where she came from. she was joined -- she was born in new york city in 1925. .> she was born in new york at the time of her birth, her father was on the staff of the president at the mccall's publishing company. her mother was a descendent of an ohio supreme court justice. the pierce family was related to president franklin pierce. the family moved to rye, new york, wh

and bush thinks about it.ives it a few weeks and comes up with the name of someone who might take his place . and on other reasons he says he is thinking of doing it is because it will show who is really in charge. you begin to see, he has begun to resent the notion that somehow he, the president, is now really in charge of his own administration. >> nextel sherry in dayton beach -- daytona beach florida. >> hi. november 2001 bush overturned the 1978 presidential records act. he signed an executive order permanently flaunting from the public of presidential documents and tapes going back to the reagan ministration. many in congress called this measure for secrecy unconstitutional. my question is, after bush left office, are those presidential records now available to the public? >> that is a very good question. i will not be able to give you a precise answer because i am not as of today on where that stands i no there are amendments and changes. i know that starting in january of this coming year president bus

the bushes got together?oes not not very many. they have had a couple of occasions and then when it opened. this is probably about april. and besides that they had a private dinner at one point. but otherwise they don't get to talk that often i think that the relationship is respectful, but it's not friendly. i asked them about this during one of the interviews and he said that we were never fighting. it was a professional relationship. we didn't socialize together at camp david. they didn't have dinner at the mansion very often. it is a professional relationship. >> host: what about condoleezza rice? >> guest: early system is very different. she had personal as well as professional. check it out diversely on sunday nights. they would go to camp david for social occasions on the weekend. she would work out what the with the president, talk sports with the president. so when she elevated to secretary of state, she not only have that personal relationship to build on but a professional policy mandate from the p

but president bush did not.ou remember those terrible images of people on their roofs, no food and water, people in the stadium just begging we need help, somebody please help us. just sad moments these people were going through, and bush didn't even know. he was out cutting brush and burning up cedar branches. and finally one of his staffers put together a newsreel almost summarizing what was going on with images and showed -- sat president bush down and said you've got to see this. he looked at it, and then he decided to go back home after this was going on for some days. by that point people were thinking, where's the president? i mean, thinking back on these presidents, could you imagine lyndon johnson not going, bill clinton not going to somehow show some solidarity with these people? but he didn't do it. so he flew over the site on air force one. you might remember the picture of him looking out the window, and that became the symbol of the isolation of george bush. botching the management of the hurricane

bush. could you compare the bubble quality is of george h. debut? and the sun. >> right. i knew we would get that in the question. both of the administrations from start to finish. president bush, the father was elected. he was the right president for the times when he was selected. two and the cold war, the destruction of the berlin wall and so on. very effectively. he didn't take a lot of credit for it. he always with a highly live for my mother not to pay too much attention to that's a great idea. in other words, control your ego. he always took that to heart. that hurt him because a lot of people want the president to explain what he's doing. a lot of political advisers say he has to do that to get the proper credit. bush didn't do that. by midway in his presidency, the country turned again to because the economy in recession no longer wanted a form policy president. and president bush didn't get that. i was like president bush personally. and if you might know him know that he's a gent

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bush. want him to run. we're going to tell you what barbara bush is saying. we'll talk to our "crossfire" panel about bush, another possible 2016 contender. >>> certainly a lot of times it's wise to follow your mother's advice. but if jeb bush wants to run for president, he'll have to go against his mother's wishes. that's because barbara bush says she hopes he won't get in the race. she says her family has spent enough time in the white house. brian todd is joining us now with more on what's going on. brian, this is not the first time we have heard from mrs. bush. is this an indication, though, of how strongly she feels she doesn't want the former florida governor to run for president? >> well, wolf, it seems stronger than just an indication at this point. this is at least the second time barbara bush has said in a very public forum that she does not want jeb bush to run for president. last april, in an interview with nbc's matt lauer, when asked if she thought he should run, mrs. bush sai

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reelect bush. >> i didn't write that, but i might have. didn't remember that, but i do remember george was running for president on the freeway going from new york to connecticut i saw someone with a sign that said bush for president. i was so excited, and i raced my car up to be close to him. it turned out to be our cousin. i was hoping it was a stranger, but nobody knew who he was. >> did you enjoy campaigning? >> yes, i really like people. it was fun. i liked it a lot. funny things happened, and i enjoyed it. partially because i knew he was the best man. i campaign for george w knowing full well he wasn't going to win, and he did. >> do think there is room for another bush in the white house? >> i think this is a great country, and if we can find more than two or three families to run for high office, that is silly, because there are great governors and great eligible people to run. i think the kennedys, the clintons, bushes, there are more families like that, and i am not arrogant enough to think we alone are raising, but we are raisin

maybe even above all think about the origin of george bush. while the most impressive campaigns that we have seen in our lifetime contract to overcome a deeply unpopular congressional republican caucus. it is basically the same challenges that the republican party is doing today. a great thrill of the book is your living in the entertaining past lead to get smarter about the future is well. he resolutions to peter, susan, the doe, everyone else who worked on it. he's at the nicest and greatest journalists or the greatest nuys journalist, but we're happy for him. [applause] >> hello. im peters editor. [applause] as an editor i got to launch a lot. and ever since pierre delivered the book i have been talking about "days of fire". a brilliant book. but when i leave the blacktop the words mind what i tell people is it's like watching all seven seasons the west wing. the world where everyone is a republican. you don't just read "days of fire", you been treated. so as an editor of you believe in a book that is crazy and do everything he can to get r

president bush said nice things about vice president cheney. but cheney was in the audience with the cabinet and the kid. on stage and had a speaking role. yellen to library, videos narrated. portrait of the first lady and pictures of the daughters. and even a statue of the dogs. there really is a not very much in there. he did not like the idea that he was running things other people think that. he was the decider. >> we have been talking with peter becker, chief white house correspondent of the new york times, also the author of this new book days a fire, bus to have. >> not to really a reality show. i had to wait. [laughter] >> it was 10 minutes early. >> no. i got stuck. did he get through? okay. that will open a. how're you? >> day now the president tried to plot your book? >> i was assured there was a guest bush shortly but that would be enjoyable. >> there was a whole group of us that were stock. >> literally. >> two blocks away and i could not get there. i was stuck. >> see how far this town has gotten? [laughter] how are you? how is it

bush's -- george herbert walker bush's uncle.een dead for many, many years. now, he was the family's black sheep, there is no question about that. and so it was not in the bushs, it wasn't to their advantage to let this information out. i kept filing and filing and filing for it. he had died, he'd been dead for years, and they would not release it. >> host: so you've never gotten it? >> guest: well, i finally found state department employees who were able to fill in the fact that he died sad, blind, alcoholic and that george bush, who was head of the cia at the time, had the body flown back to connecticut. and i went to the family grave site, and you can learn a lot sometimes by going to a cemetery. it's interesting. prescott bush has this great headstone, and then there's a very humble one for his wife and others. and way down if the corner there's a very small headstone for james bush. but i never got the freedom of information. it's still pending. >> host: in "the family" you write: bearing the brunt of presidential wrath has

bush 5 years lat25 years lg right up so stay with us. >> i, george herbert walker bush, do solemnly swearhat i will faithfully execute the office of president of the united states. >> that i will faithfully execute the offers of president of the united states. >> so help me god. >> so help me god. >> congratulations. >> that was president h.w. bush at his inauguration 25 years ago. the anniversary was monday, and there's a celebration later today in washington at the u.s. chamber of commerce. 41 is now 89, and he tweeted that it's still hard for him to believe that he had the honor to serve as president. fox's brit hume was there on that day on january 20th, 1989. he spent a lot of time covering the president's campaign the year before, and here's what he remembers from it. >> it was a bright sunny day which was a great blessing for those of us who were outdoors. i was up on the stand in among the bush family, and i remember the speech -- the speech, if memory serves, is the one in which he said this would be the age of the outstretched hand. >> i'm putting out my hand to you, mr. speaker

as you noted, one of the problems jeb bush has is that his mother, barbara bush, one several occasionsaybe the country has had enough of the bushes for the time being. it's not clear that he is moving actively toward a candidacy. but the previous segment, talking about chris christie's problems, that i think is going to increase pressure on jeb bush to consider this. because for that upscale managerial part of the party and donor class, christie and jeb bush are the most logical candidates. if christie seems diminished or weakened, more people looking at jeb bush and hillary clinton is as front rubber as you can get. not entirely out of the realm of possibility, although jeb bush does not seem to be moving in that direction so far. >> we'll see what he decides to do, whether he pay attention to his mother's advice. we tried to clarify, not necessarily saying she doesn't want him to run. but would certainly be described as the republican establishment candidate, the former governor of florida very popular down in florida. the republican establishment not necessarily the tea party moveme

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bush? >> you don't hear the word ompassionate conservative but that seems to be the ultimate goal, they would like to be seen more compassionate. one of the most striking of ings in the exit polls the 2012 election when asked about what is most important to you in a president folks who want a president who cares about people like me, 81% of those voted for president obama. >> the polling now shows republicans are way behind democrats when you ask that generally. marco rubio talk about this, paul ryan talks about it a little bit. but are at the outliers? o we see a whole thrust of the party or just some voices in it? >> that is a good point. prominent republicans, republic that we're expecting to run but it is not john boehner or the hairman of the republican party. gwen: eric cantor a little bit, right? he does have leadership positions but there is not a consensus in the republican arty that they need to get behind it. in fact, i would argue that among a lot of parts of the there is more y

bush in the 1992 election.en the bush's son who truly brought them together when he asked them to join forces to help the victims of the 2005 asian ntsunami. now there is a chance as jeb bush weighs his options, a run for the highest office that could lead to a face-off with none other than bill clinton's wife, hillary. >> there are a lot of ways to serve and being president is not the only one. i would hope that someone else would run although there is no question in my mind that jeb is the best qualified person to run for president. i hope he won't. >> jeb bush's father by contrast says he would like to esee his son run for president. it is not clear which way jeb bush is leaning. >> if he were to run he would be a formidable candidate for sure. >> let's dig deeper with our cnn political commentators. anna, you are close to jeb bush. what do you think about the special relationship between former president george h.w. bush and former president bill clinton and their families? >> i think it is absolutely genui

he wrote in a letter to george bush from this time. something that i think it's very notable and you can almost hear some of the intensity in his voice, which was found to basically that the united states congress, the media and john kerry can afford to be wrong and pay no penalty. the president of the united states has to be read on the matter of such importance. he ended the memorandum to george bush at the time, which is detailed in the book with a single word. caution. urging caution on the president before he adopted this particular recommendations. vice president cheney, himself a secretary of defense also opposed the dni recommendation. he focused on the fact that we were up or at the time in iraq and afghanistan and said now is no time to be rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic as we were trying to fight and win a war. the second view was those that cia. cia i think took some offense that they were being so heavily salted for intelligence failures on 9/11 and began to argue that really what the essence of powers in washin

bush administration. he managed to writ book and have two young sons and set up a very successful new business. all in the space -- and continuing working on the hill at the same time. so very impressive. [inaudible] mike agreed to speak about the stories in his book for about a half an hour and i'll engage in him q & a and let him answer your questions. >> very good. >> mike? >> go ahead. >> i'll take the podium, if that's okay. i think you can do without that, yeah? [laughter] i want to thank the new america foundation for having me today. especially peter for the invitation. thank you for coming out in the rain to hear a little bit about my book "blinking red." i look forward to q & a about other pressing intelligence community topics. "blinking red" is an attempt to write the author at a timive objective history of the most substantial restructuring of the u.s. intelligence community since the foundations in 1947. the aim in 1947, of course, was to create a central intelligence agency that would, in t

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the next focus will be barbara bush.t 45tion for the minutes is the issue of presidency and family dynasty. is it time for some new faces? the area code is 202. you can also join in on twitter or facebook or send us an e-mail at journal@c-span.org . from "usa today" -- in the interview, the former first lady and wife fo the 41st president opens up why shey doesn't want her son jeb to run for the white house. jeb bush is a two-term florida governor. decide this year whether he will run in 2016. this tweet was sent out earlier this week from jeb bush. here is more from our interview with barbara bush and her discussion on dynasties and political legacies. >> you think there's room for another bush in the white house? them i think this is a great american country. >> i think this is a great american country. if we cannot find two or three families to run for office that is silly. there are great and eligible people to run. i think the kennedys, clintons, bushes, there are more families than that. not arrogant enough to say

bush was struggling with a serious case of bronchitis last year. houston methodist says that 88-year-old barbara bush came in with early signs of pneumonia. >> she has a big, big heart. >> reporter: friends and aides report that doctors have given her an excellent prognosis. >> barbara bush is a tough gal who will outlive us all. but our love is with her because she's not just a former first lady of america, she's the first lady of our hearts. >> reporter: to say she's beloved is an understatement. here's her reflection on her son when he was living in the white house. >> now to see that same fellow that i used to drive around in little league car pools and i used to yell at to please pick up his room, to see him as president is truly amazing. >> reporter: in a statement today president obama wrote that michelle and i send our best wishes to mrs. bush for a speedy recovery. no word yet on when she might be heading home. steve osunsami. abc news, atlanta. >> we're told barbara bush watched the texas a & m game. they won 52-48. perhaps they can thank

i think this president inherited a mess from bush.body who is republican wants to talk about reagan. i'm happy to talk about bush as well. i think he's been doing a good job. i think most americans are glad we're pulling back. do you think the president is fundamentally off course in any way? >> yeah. he inherited a fairly decent situation in iraq. i have to say i disagree completely with larry completely about energy. i don't think the we kbet. to be free. you realize how dependent our l allies are. i don't think the united states gets to run from the middle east. so i think you also ought to be aware that 9/11 wasn't all that long ago. the odds that the united states are going to get hit for another massive terrorist strike because of what's happened in the middle east. >> we can talk about this more when we get back. next we'll have the final question for both our guests. also we want you at home to way in on the fireback question. is bob gates' decision to write a tell-all book an act of courage or betrayal? tweet us using #crossf

bush run.ris christie's problems in new jersey, political observers say the door might be opening wider for jeb bush to seek the republican nod for president in 2016, but the governor's mom is trying to push that door closed. >> i would hope that someone else would run, although there's no question in my mind that jeb is the best qualified person to run for president, but i hope he won't. >> reporter: in an interview with c-span, former first lady barbara bush took jab at america's political dynasties, including her own, i think the kennedys, clintons, bushes, they're just, there are just more families than that. >> reporter: jeb bush responded tweeting what day a mother's day this year? asking for a friend. his office pointed us to remarks he made in november. responding to almost identical comments his mother made last year when she said, we've had enough bushes. >> i love my mom, and i listen to my mom. but i don't always agree with her. >> reporter: why would mrs. bush discourage a run from

>> president bush, i think, relied more on his gut, on instinct. i think they both were willing to revisit decisions. they both would argue that they don't, but as you point out, all presidents do that, and particularly when it involves the use of military force. president bush changed strategies, and i would say that what president obama did was in his -- in expressing his reservations, and, again, and i really probably don't go into this enough in the book on how during 2010 it was the failure of the nonmilitary side of the equation, the strategy, as much as anything i think fed his concerns. >> rose: you said that you talk about a president as smart, deliberate if the, and all of those kind of things, but you say they shared sort of a contempt for the congress and no interest -- [laughter.] >> well, again, charlie -- >> rose: they shared that with you. >> that's true. but, again, the context of the book is when i say that, i am comparing them to other presidents that i worked for, so when i talk about -- >> rose: bush 41, like reagan? >> when it

barbara bush says she does not want her son jeb bush to run for president.n? you will hear directly from mrs. bush next. >>> our senate democrats distancing themselves from president obama? a democratic super pac putting out new campaign ad it supports kirkpatrick a democrat. a kink in it though it slams obamacare. >> it is here in small towns and wide open spaces that an kirkpatrick listens and learns. it's why she blew the whistle on the disastrous healthcare web site calling it stunning ineptitude and worked to fix it she fought to hold insurance companies accountable so they can't deny coverage for preexisting conditions or drop coverage when you get sick. >> joe trippi joins us. that's sounds like she is running away from the president. >> brilliant ad. it was stunning ineptitude. everybody realizes that lock, i think what's happening is every presidential second term is bad no matter hot president is. george bush in 2006 spent all his time either in the white house or in texas, missouri, montana all red states campaigning. if you are a democratic candi

by the see bush and security for your party physical. issues that no one is asking with the guests that you deserve answers from it's all politics. are. this is all tea tonight on the finish line there's just a month left now before the russian olympic host city salt she starts the ball rolling and we talk to the chief organizer this hour about how the city's going to run the games and keep everyone safe. iraq is losing control of its biggest province with key cities seized by al qaida militants flooding in from syria while the us promises to speed up drone and missile deliveries. battling for basics scientists warn that water may become a key factor in world conflicts with it already fueling tension in the arid middle east. and the youngest victims of the terror attacks in volgograd is on the mend we're following the fate of the three month old girl who survived the blast that killed a mother.

>> you said barbara bush had to put up with the attacks on george bush. if mrs. obama was alive and watching this show, you think she wouldn't cringe? >> right, because her son was being ridiculed. >> yeah. >> we're going to leave it all. coming up, a patriotic goalie for team usa is forced to remove the constitution from her custom-made hockey mask before she heads to russia. we the people on "the five" have something to say about that olympic fail next. i wasn't sure, sochi or sochi, let me know. ;ñ;ñ;ñ >>> well, the olympic games give athletes from around the world to proudly represent their country. team usa women's hockey goalie was so proud to represent america at sochi, she just had a custom mask made to wear while she's there. it features a picture of the u.s. constitution of it, but the police on the international olympic committee say it has to go and they're forcing her to it, citing ioc guidelines. this isn't the entire constitution. it just says we the people on the mask. what's the big deal? >> i have a question. did todd create this story? this is

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i suppose a republican would say that about bush. do think that he sort of helps us on a couple of points. we knew and had some reporting on how wary obama got of the military when it came to the afghanistan policy. i think this book gives some more detail about how uneasy obama became with the afghanistan policy. how much real argument and in-fighting there was in the administration about this and in the end for good reason. >> the interesting thing about that bit, the first headline out of this was "the new york times" saying obama abandoned his afghanistan policy. but yet, gates pointed out he did it because he thought it wasn't working. there's nothing wrong with abandoning a policy that's not working. >> thank you both for joining me tonight. >> good to be with you. >>> coming up, the cocaine congressman returns to work, a free man with a big paycheck. that makes him a lot luckier than thousands of americans who are serving hard time tonight for exactly what he did. and in "the rewrite" the shockingly wrong predictions of republ

bush on a speedy recovery. >> we're told barbara bush watched the texas a & m game. they won. >>> back here in new york tonight the big clean up from the party in times square with someone new in charge. the first new mayor in 12 years, bill de blasio sworn in by president clinton. former secretary of state hillary clinton also on hand as well as de blasio's family right there on the steps with him. >>> with a new year comes new laws as well and one led to major lines today. for the first time you can buy marijuana legally in parts of colorado purely for recreational use. tonight there is already talk of shortages and a different kind of after effect, new jobs. abc's clayton sandell in denver. >> reporter: they lined up before dawn. >> we drove 17 hours to get here. >> reporter: some sleeping in their cars. >> it's a historical event. >> reporter: for a chance to be early through the door at one of the world's first recreational marijuana shop. even in amsterdam it's tolerated but technically illegal. >> 8 a.m. we're gonna do it! >> reporter: scoring weed now as east

the bush team, what a bunch of bums the bush team were and we're sitting there thinking, are we invisible? we were integral members of the team. >> the administration continued with a lot of president bush's procedures and protocols. >> they did. and i'm sorry they did. but that's one voice. this was inexcusable to dump on bush in front of those two. somebody had a lack of judgment on that. >> what about arrogance? >> you could call it that. but just as matter of course, you don't have two people in the room that are an integral part of the last team and dump on them. it's insulting. >> no class. >> i'll take gates at his word that that is what happened. i don't know any president that likes war. who likes war? >> maybe needing war as a necessity to get things done instead of just sitting back and, oh, i don't know, letting the terrorists rule the world. should gates have spoken up, eric? he's out here, he puts out this book, but as i understand it, he never stopped and spoke up and said, you know what, i don't want this. as he offered his resignation, the president asked him to stay. i s

got out of office that i would ever agree with a bush ever again but lo and behold i stand barbara bush you have governor jesse ventura's full support on that position and she is absolutely correct we are not england we don't have royalty here why should only a certain few families get the opportunity to higher office in this country that wasn't what our country was formed upon our country was formed in a citizen government where you you're a citizen you bring your life experiences to bear in washington and then there's another novel concept when you're don go back to what you used to do like my good friend senator angus king independent of maine did he got done being governor he went back to the private sector for eight to ten years and now he's back as a senator again but i'm sad but there are some who say of jeb bush ran against hillary clinton we would probably have a very good race well thought out no backstabbing good issues to concern bright americans or the make of that well i would say if jeb bush ends up against hillary clinton that's going to pave the way for jesse ventura to

first bush. those 12 years are all really the reagan program. and so we did have an economy that rebounded, because volcker killed inflation and the deficits were enormous and they stimulated the economy. but they established a precedent for continuous, chronic, massive peace-time deficits and put the republican party, the old defender of the treasury gates in the position that cheney so ineloquently expressed, deficits don't matter. and that was the beginning of the end, because in a democracy, if there's not a conservative party that is defending the treasury, the taxpayers and fiscal rectitude, you're going to have a free-lunch competition between tax-cutters, the republicans, and spenders, the democrats. >> what do you think? >> i think that's much too narrow a view of the options we have. i think that reagan wouldn't have agreed with that in this sense, that what -- he saw the economy, not in terms of taxing and spending, but in terms of growth or a failure of growth. and what the reagan rev

and obama -- both bush and obama pushed back against the generals. in the case of iraq in 2006, it was the civilian leadership that decided the strategy wasn't working, not the military, and when bush decided to support the iraq surge, he was opposed by the entire joint chiefs of staff, the chairman of the joint chiefs, the theater commander, the commander in baghdad, and the commander of central command in florida. >> host: i must ask you, though, you can hardly characterize that as a brilliant insight. the entire country seemingly turned against the war because we were not doing well there. why did the generals -- why were they so late when everybody else defended this was not going well. >> guest: i wish i had an explanation for that. i wasn't there. i think that they -- i think they had concluded that their view was that more troops would aggravate the situation rather than help it. that it would let the iraqis off the hook in terms of assuming responsibility for their own security, and that it would -- and that the iraqis were expecting to see a

bush and president barack obama. he's here to talk about the different leadership styles when it comes to serving as jander in chief. i thought the most damning thing you could ever say about anybody in this boom is what you said about hillary clinton. you wrote that hillary told the president in front of you, her surge had been political because she was facing obama in an iowa primary, and the president conceded vaguely that his opposition to iraq and the surge had also been political. the two of them make these admissions in front of me was as surprising as it was disane. are you really suggesting that hillary clinton put her own personal ambition above our troops? >>. >> i think the book is clear that when the president responded to her comments, he was agreeing that opposition to the surge broadly had been political. i believe that, having lived through that in the spring of 2007 up on the hill. there are two things that made me remember what hillary clinton had said. the first was, i was on the opposite side of

who does not love barbara bush. let me say i love jeb bush.ncredibly formidable opponent. if he does, i think his mother would support him with all the hugs and kisses she could. here is the irony, jeb bush would be a great candidate. should he be a candidate because his last name is bush? no. by the same token, i wouldn't want us to lose a great candidate because he's jeb bush. >> what she said about political dynasties. many would argue america started out trying to get away from political dynasties. >> totally agree. i think that's the point you have to agree with her on. back to my point, if jeb decided to run, it's a burden he would have to take, the fact his father and brother had been president. i don't think people should vote for him because of that. i don't think people should say we won't vote for him. i think he should stand on his own and i think he would. >> one of the things people love about you, especially when you were running for president, when you get up on stage for the debates you were yourself. to a certain extent you t

the father of bush in kuwait way yeah why do you think these are a false flags and more historically explored in these provocations kind of the use of these false provocations starting to do it for this we're especially try to expose this to national security archives putting out great documents about these things so people know some of this but it's at the heart of our story because we're telling the other side of american history the dark side all the interventions the assassinations the dirty tricks the psychological warfare the torture if you don't get the arrogance it's behind and that you have those two it's always you're able to drop them on japan and get away with it successfully by calling it a moral victory and saying that it ended world war two then you adopt the attitude that because you want you were right because you're right you're good that's what follows so therefore you create your own moral code oh i love i love the series because i think a recurring theme is the atomic bomb not only the dropping of the bombs but the way that we were able to use that leverage almos

the bush administration only had one attack in yemen. he increased that enormously. on national security, he let the nsa do whatever they wanted. that is completely opposite from the way he campaigned. i think that is disappointing to many of his supporters. host: and he is waiting in pennsylvania on the line for democrats. caller: good morning. i was just going to say about the same thing. i voted for president obama and the first term. in the second term, i -- the same thing. my comment was going to be that after the first term, he -- the media was supposed to be the watchdog. ignorede more or less the scandal and stuff that has gone on in this residency. -- i have great respect for your speaker. i was wondering what his thoughts were. ignoring fox and those places. what are his thoughts on the media and what they are ignoring? -- what are papers his thoughts on how the press is covering the root of all of the needs of what the press needs to do to cover things in this nsa controversy. thank you. guest: i agree 100%. the media has been very weak. i have been very c

>> you said barbara bush had to put up with the attacks on george bush. if mrs. was alive and watching this show, you think she wouldn't cringe? >> right, because her son was being ridiculed. >> yeah. >> we're going to leave it all. coming up, a patriotic goalie for team usa is forced to remove the constitution from her custom-made hockey mask before she heads to russia. we the people on "the five" have something to say about that olympic fail next. i wasn't sure, sochi or sochi, let me know. [ male announcer ] we could say a lot about the most track-tested is ever... but the truth is... we don't have to. the experts have spoken. now it's your move. ♪ verizon innovators are creating air and soil sensor networks that help use water wisely, so american farms can keep growing for generations to come. because e wod's biggest challenges deserve even bigger solutions. powerful awers. verizon. >>> well, the olympic games give athletes from around the world to proudly represent their country. team usa women's hockey goalie was so proud to represent america at sochi, she