george prescot bush. >> it's a long walk, mr. bush. the chairman of the board for friends of the national world r ii memorial, general mckickliter. [applause] >> from the military district of washington, colonel chaplin hnedeski. >> it's a warm day, we'll try to make this brief but i think you'll find it impressive. ladies and gentlemen, please rise for the presentation of the colors and the playing of the national anthem and invocation. snolet ♪ ♪ [the star spangled banner plays] >> please be seated. i also want to introduce to you to robert voguele, superintendent of the national mall and miller parks national park service and here's the chaplin to give the invocation. >> let us pray. >> oh mighty god, today we gather in remembrance and in thanksgiving. remembrance of a great and costly victory over a tyranny that threatened not only america but the whole world. and we gather in thanksgiving for the men and women who served both home and on distant and ic waters and shores lands, who sacrificed so much to achieve that victory. lord,

signed george bush. [applause] >> i understand president bush is watching so i know from everybody in this room today we send greetings, respect and salutations. that gentlemen, the letter i just read from 41 mentions the uniqueness of having these four presidential centers come together. in fact, i think this is the first collaboration ever among presidential centers in an ongoing initiative. why did you decide to do this as a collaboration and why did you pick leadership as the theme? president bush? >> because. he said keep it short, right? hi, mom. [laughter] because we have a lot of to offer. bill and i have become friends in the post-presidency. i admire his ability to communicate and lead. i know he wants his library to be relevant heading into the future as do i. i know 41 well. i have always admired president john johnson's leadership and i know these centers are tremendous assets that need to be used properly. i felt, and i know bill feels -- well i will not put words in his mouth -- but i felt

romney gets in and bush gets in. i'm not like mort, i don't talk to them at lunch. >> exit question. is the gop ready for a candidacy. >> for his running? >> he has a perfect right to run and there is a chance he will. more likely romney will run or christie will run. >> he doesn't show me the fire in the belly. >> americans have a short attention span and they're forgiving. he has a chance if he gets in the race. >> he will get chewed apart by the crazy right wing in the primaries. he absolutely will. >> i i don't agree with. that they're not that stupid but they're not that unwise is a better way to put it. if you have an obama administration and a clinton administration and you're a conservative republican --. >> jeb bush's i gubernatorial career in florida was a master piece. he got the state through a horrible hurricane and his governing and the fact that he has an a hispanic whief has toolt bear in what he brings -- wife has a lot to bear in what he brings to the picture. we'll be back with predictions. ♪you ma

bush. >>> question.f jeb bush decides to run for president in 2016, is he too moderate for the republican base? or is he just what the doctor ordered? pat? >> too moderate for the republican base. bobby jindal was very much out in favor. >> who is bobby jindal? >> the governor of what la. marco rubio was for. >> who is marco rubio? >> the u.s. senator from florida. >> right. right. >> damaged deeply by his support for immigration reform. jeb bush 1 john he doesn't look to me like he's got the fire in the belly. he hasn't run from a dozen years or more for anything. >> he is getting warmed up. >> these two issues will see him torn apart in a very huff primary. >> to his credit, he is not walking away from those issues like the other two people you cited. >> they ran away. >> he is not running away, he is doubling down on immigration reform and doubling down on the common core. if you look at the field, other than i suppose chris christie, it is a field that is filled with conservatives and social conserva

no more bush. not another bush. he's aware if he were to run he would have to make it very quickly to people he's not in the mold of his brother or father. he's his own man on ideas on education, on immigration, on economy. and sell them on the notion of himself. i think he can probably do that. he is a guy of serious policy ideas and serious leadership and vision. i don't think he'll come across and say this is just another bush. will it be a detriment to him throughout the campaign? sure. but those people who say not another bush probably wouldn't have voted for bush in the first place. the rest who are on the fence i think he can sway with his ideas in policy. at one point he will have to ke a -- make it clear that this is not a continuation of the george w. white house. everyone remembers when he left office he had a terribly low approval rating. it's a concern but i don't think it will keep him out of a race. >> thanks very much for joining us on this sunday. >> thanks for having me. >> on the

bush is part of the next generation of texas leaders. successful businessman, tolanthropist, n dedicated pushing conservative values. he is known to his friends as a ,eader with broad convictions broad experience and fresh perspective. navy06 he joined the reserves. in 2010 he began an eight-month tour of duty in afghanistan. among other service decorations, metal.given the --is now my pleasure to work welcome george prescott bush to the podium. [applause] good morning and thank you for having me. you thishonor to join honor. i want to recognize all of our distinguished guests and visitors. it is truly an honor to have been invited to represent my family and join you on this morning here in d.c. 69 years ago, the guns fell silent in the pacific. a new world truly had emerged. against huge's and an enemy that refused to surrender, america emerged victorious in world war ii. it was important that america won the war, it was just as important that america won the peace. the heroes of the greatest generation did not just defeat japan, they r

bush took. i mean, it comes full circle where even the times is acknowledging that the two men are taking similar courses. and yet he was elected to the white house, paul, promising that he would be a different kind of president and republicans said to him that's naive, it's not that president bush loves war. it's that he hates terror. >> i think they've been vindicated on that. i think the president -- as we said wrote tas idly admitted that. when he saw his polls falling as disorder broke out around the world, he understood that he had to do something. so he's now acting with force of the kind that he never imagined he would have to use. >> not only did it sort of collapse as we watched over the past six years, you know, a course that many people felt hopeful about has not apparently worked out. but the president was touting what he viewed as his success thinks of -- less interventionalist policy. here's an example of that. this is president obama in 2001. this is the longer version. listen to

bush took. i mean, it comes full circle where even the times is acknowledging that the two men are taking similar courses. and yet he was elected to the white house, paul, promising that he would be a different kind of president and republicans said to him that's naive, it's not that president bush loves war. it's that he hates terror. >> i think they've been vindicated on that. i think the president -- as we said wrote tas idly admitted that. when he saw his polls falling as disorder broke out around the world, he understood that he had to do something. so he's now acting with force of the kind that he never imagined he would have to use. >> not only did it sort of collapse as we watched over the past six years, you know, a course that many people felt hopeful about has not apparently worked out. but the president was touting what he viewed as his success thinks of -- less interventionalist policy. here's an example of that. this is president obama in 2001. this is the longer version. listen to

bush giving this speech. >> stephen: yes, every time i close my eyes, i can hear george bush speaking(laughter) hold on... he's talking again. why, yes, mr. president, i would love to hop on the segue with you and go get a hot dog. look out for that tree! ooh! look, sir, i got to go back to the show and do the thing. my eyes are closed. i can't read the scrolly words they have up here. see you later. bye. what are you gonna steal from bush next, mr. president? 'cuz you're not fooling anyone! even politico pointed out that if you type obama's money phrase -- "network of death "-- into the thesaurus.com, george w. bush's "axis of evil" could very welcome out. yes, it could very well come out. no, i tried it and it doesn't come out, but if i didn't, it might have. clearly, president kumbaya is just trying to look tough in the middle east by mad-libbing the greatest hits of the bush administration. i dread the day when "mission accomplished" becomes "job did." (laughter) (applause) but folks, whether or not obama is up for didding the job, we know that after 2016, barack obama will be lea

signed george bush. [applause] >> i understand president bush is watching so i know from everybody in this room today we send greetings, respect and saltations. that gentlemen, the letter i just read from 41 mentions the uniqueness of having these four presidential centers come together. in fact, i think this is the first collaboration every among presidential centers in an ongoing initiative. why did you decide to do this as a collaboration and why did you pick leadership as the theme? president bush? >> because. you said keep it short, right? hi, mom. [laughter] >> because we have a lot of to offer. bill and i have become friends in the post-presidency. i admire his ability to communicate and lead. i know he wants his library to be relevant heading into the future as do i. i know 41 well. i have always admired president jo johnson's leadership and i know the centers are tremendous assets that need to be used properly. i felt, and i know bill feels -- well i will not put words in his mouth -- but i felt

when you hear about jeb bush, is there a bush fatigue. ? guest: that is a concern that he is well -- where -- well aware of. when ever i write a story about jeb bush, there is a visceral reaction on twitter about no more bushes. he is aware of that. he would have to make it clear to people that he is not in the mold of his brother or his father. he has his own man with his own ideas on education and .mmigration and the economy he needs to sell people on it jeb the person and get beyond this notion that he is just another bush. he could probably do that. he is a guy of serious policy ideas and leadership and vision. you may disagree with it, i don't think he will come across as just another bush. will it be a detriment to him? sure. people who say not another bush probably would not vote for a bush anyway. sayt of people i talked to to me at some point he is going to have to make it clear to break from george w. bush in a speech or an appearance. he will have to make it clear that he is not a continuation of the george w. bush white house. e

bush had gotten out of the race in time. he had gotten out of the race, so he was not holding on like pat buchanan and some other people, but there was a bad taste in the reagan people's mouths about george bush. they thought he was too moderate and that he would not be a good match. reagan himself comes up with the idea, along with kissinger, who is in reagan's ear, about bringing ford in. there is nothing that prohibits gerald ford from coming in. he can be elected vice president as many times as he wants. the constitution does not say, so the negotiations go through between henry kissinger, brent scowcroft, i believe, and the reagan team, and they are this close. reagan is about to drop this bombshell, and ford goes on up into the skybox in detroit, and he talks to walter cronkite. cronkite has got pieces of the story, and he says, "are you a candidate for the vice presidency," and ford goes on for about two minutes without saying the word no. reagan is looking at this on television and goes crazy. he feels he has been be

bush. given how mr. bush's presidency turned out, do you regret running that year and why or why not? >> last i heard, bush got more votes from gore than i did, that's is a minor thing. i don't think third parties are second classy sense. if we all have equal rights to run for election and then we are all trying to get votes from one another. so we're all spoilers of one another or none of us are spoilers. when you say spoiler are third party candidates given all great things they have done in american history to pioneer antislavery, women's right to vote, worker rights, farmer rights, when you just say third party candidates are spoilers, that is political bigotry. so blame the electoral college because gore got 500,000 more votes nationwide. only country i know in the world where you can come in first and lose the election, because the electoral college. blame florida, blame the thieves in florida. blame the supreme court. you don't blame someone exercising constitutional rights to challe

bush in gulf war one and post-9/11 george bush also. now we have a president that every single time -- and one we didn't mention is 2012 when panetta, clinton and petraeus recommended to arm and equip the free syrian army, which initially had momentum in syria and then the russians and the iranians loaded in there with all of their equipment and troops and arrested it. and as a result of that the momentum shifted, the syrian army reached out for help and we said no and now we're in a dire situation in syria. the pattern is he does not trust that judgment. he limits every single time an option -- a serious option that's presented to him. i've never ever seen a pattern like that. i've never seen that kind of mistrust except when lincoln did not trust his generals in the beginning part of the civil war mainly because they were incompetent. and that is surely not the problem here. >> so what is going to happen now? because what the president's critics say is basically war based on pugh research. the american people want to do something abou

bush became president, when i'm speaking of bush i'm speaking about george h.w. bush was much more cautious. one of the biggest surprises in my research was just how much tension there was between the reagan team and bush team. political scientists who are not interested in this topic but work on presidential transitions used the reagan-bush transition as an example of a particularly vicious one. some scholars described it as bush fired everyone. in the internal sources i was surprised to see bush documents saying mush for brains reaganites. people who had begin into the wiles of gorbachev. phrases saying it's good that the adults are back in charge. you see a little attempt to return to a more traditional cold war stance. but dramatic events made it clear 1989 won't be a traditional cold war year. there is the massive popular protest in tiananmen square in 1989. we just had that anniversary. that enough was observed in china with silence. even those who commemorated it in their homes were persecuted for that. 1989 in retrospect looks different in china than euro

, no more bush.t another bush. and he's aware if he were to run he would have to make it clear very quickly to people he's not in the mold of his brother or father. he's his own man on ideas on education, on immigration, on economy. and so people on jeb the person and get beyond the idea that he is just another bush. i think he can probably do that. anybody who follows them closely knows that he is a guy of serious policy ideas and serious leadership and vision. disagree if you will. i don't think he'll come across and say this is just another bush. will it be a detriment to him throughout the campaign? sure. but those people who say not another bush probably wouldn't have voted for bush in the first place. and the rest who are on the fence i think he can sway with his ideas in policy. and he, a lot of the people that i talk to say to me that at one point he will have to make it clear that this is not a continuation of the george w. white house. george w is sort of popular now, but everybody remember

signed george bush. [applause] >> i understand president bush is watching so i know from everybody in this room today we send greetings, respect and salutations. that gentlemen, the letter i just read from 41 mentions the uniqueness of having these four presidential centers come together. in fact, i think this is the first collaboration ever among presidential centers in an ongoing initiative. why did you decide to do this as a collaboration and why did you pick leadership as the theme? president bush? >> because. he said keep it short, right? hi, mom. [laughter] because we have a lot of to offer. bill and i have become friends in the post-presidency. i admire his ability to communicate and lead. i know he wants his library to be relevant heading into the future as do i. i know 41 well. i have always admired president john johnson's leadership and i know these centers are tremendous assets that need to be used properly. i felt, and i know bill feels -- well i will not put words in his mouth -- but i felt

and this was known to bush.nown to cheney but, you know, cheney's position was the 1% factor. if there's a 1% chance that saddam hussein has weapons of mass destruction, we have to take action. well, this is justification for what cheney wanted to do. we wanted to punish someone after 9/11. no doubt about that. there was no punishment to be dealt to afghanistan because there were no strategic targetì% because al qaeda had been routed from the country. very effectively by the cia and the military over a two-month period with 450 people. that's why this war is such a tragedy. after december 2001, we should have turned the keys back over to the country. the various ethnic groups who were so effective in getting the taliban out of kabul. and we didn't have to be there for another 12, 13 years with all the losses that we have suffered. >> you spoke in your opening remarks about the cia not being a rogue agency and that the things that have happened is because they've been misused by the presidents. it's my perception

president bush? >> george w. bush was a man of conviction. very grounded.ent he was also very deliberate and disciplined. he is also very courageous he's because he has the courage to make a decision. and i would say his flaws were that h allowed there to be a myth that he couldn't read. and i would say his flaws is that he allowed there to or didn't read, when he was very well read and took time to read while he wasve president and it was usually relevant to the bily responsibilities that he had. but he also kind of preferred to be from west texas when he of really was well-educated at be yale. so he allowed there to be a perception that he wasn't as as engaged as in fact he was. real but i think having the great decision, notde a allow politics to drive a decision but to allow conscie e conscience, and to make the decisions that he had to make >> and they were impossibleably difficultl, decisions.v"ém >> well, as well with leon, i had the opportunity to serve with him. he is the embodiment of public e service, so theca perfect guy i run an

bush and others did.if assembly part of a long-range debate between the legislative and executive branch. i feel the president should have given us 30 days notice. i do believe that. the reason they didn't is they were concerned that the information would be. this is a very sensitive negotiation and they were told that if information is leaked, it would kill the deal and they were deeply concerned about sergeant bergdahl's health. if any further delay happen, that he might not survive his current incarceration with the taliban. that was their reason for doing it. while i have said and will continue to say that i think he should have given us that 30 days notice, i think congress has proven repeatedly that we can in fact keep a secret. we have been told about a number of sensitive wing's and not reveal that information. it is worth noting the president is completely without reason for that. said i -- initially would have let people know, absolutely. i didn't think it was a good idea and i would have done e

bush 41 was great about that.therwise he would not push for that ada he wanted the clean-air standards even though he was in kennebunkport. when he was a congressman one of the few republicans southerners to vote for the open housing law of 1968. why was that? he could live forever he wanted he could put himself in a position of someone who had said different life with a different life possibilities and changes that is one of the most important characteristics a leader can have a he has always been great at that. >> thank you. you are right. president bush, the same question about lyndon johnson. >> i met lyndon johnson twice. once when i was visiting my grandfather who was a colleague of his in the senate. and once later on when he retired back to texas. he was the big guy and i was struck out imposing his physical be was a guy suspect -- i suspect his strongest quality was his persuasiveness. [laughter] particularly to get this civil-rights bill passed one of the greatest legislative seats in history and lyndon

bush. as i said, we're going to give you people, all four of them here are persons who have been personally active in that particular moment in time. first speaker you are going to hear from is joe klock, a member of the florida bar. he was the attorney for kathryn hair, who was our secretary of state, handled the case for her all the way through the united states supreme court. who was ave ben kunic, an attorney for al gore during the same period of time. then norman ostrow, who was at different times a member of the state elections commission, chairman of the state ethics commission, a member of the state legislature, and at the time that all this was going on was an assistant state attorney in broward county in charge of looking into what was happening in the year 2,000th during this particular campaign. and then, as i said, we got -- get to the ballot box and we're very, very honored to have with theresa lepore. she was the person in charge of a elections department for -- the county of

, a country that bush never went into. obama bombed seven countries, bush only bombed four. another irony. he said a month ago it was fantasy to arm the syrian rebels. that's now the cornerstone of his strategic plan. it was only january that he called them the jv team. a really dramatic turnaround by the president. >> why knowing he has pressure on the lil left, why would he move forward with this campaign? america's public opinion is out there for more action. the threat is real. but that runs a bit counterwith starting in january talking about the jv squad. but just a week that the homeland security secretary said isis is not a huge threat. that's what they're using to justify military action. >> i think we're going to learn in the next number of weeks and months is the president just checking the box. in other words, i had to deal with the threat, the american people wanted it done, the lead-up to an election or is he serious about dpeeting isis? >> we don't know the answer tonight. but based on what we -- we don't kno

bush.s a long running story. >> what is the intention to create this sort of program to help scholars going forward to study their terms of office. what do you think of the lessons that both of them as presidents would provide they share? what are the things that the two of them share in particular when they're often viewed for different governing styles >>well, i think you're getting to the heart of it. one reason why george w. bush and bill clinton have a good relationship. they share a lot. one of the amazing thing they were born the same year. 1946. you think of them as different times because they were president at different times. in terms of age they have it in common. they are huge ly old pros in politics. >> i was struck by one of the answers that the president had for chuck todd about the topic of golf. only a matter of hours after announcing he had spoken to the family of james foley, he got two big prominent golfers. they have different views of golf, though. at different times

bush. i don't care.ng as they continue the george bush architecture on how to fight terrorism and leave those programs in place, including keeping guantanamo open, our nation is safer. they can run from the rhetoric as long as their actions continue. >> let's move to the next topic. white house advisor dan pfeiffer saying leaks with are a big problem as reporters complain about limited access and lack of transparency. we pulled direct quotes here from mainstream media folks. the "new york times", i mean, they are criticizing this as one of the least transparent administrations in history. how do you walk that line? you know reporters, we're going to push and want information? there are some things you have to keep secret. the white house correspondents association is repeatedly filing these protests saying you are keeping us out of everything. even the smallest events, we can't even take our own pictures. >> there was no facebook or twitter. it came about in the age of bottom boim. he has all these diffe

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let's blame bush. >> tell me one time he said that recently. >> blame bush. >> yeah. >> this is what he does all the time. this is bush's problem too, remember because oh, he wanted to go for democratication of iraq. >> i think it was a bad war. >> that's the point. you feel that way. let's say enough let's look at the current threat. the true unif ier may not be obama. it may be an act against us that will force us to yunify. >> the president then has to make decisions and not be afraid of american power and american success. >> sadly he may be forced to because -- it looks that way. >> but who surrounding him is actually going to do that? >> believe it or not maybe biden. who knows. i'm getting desperate. >> you are. >> politics show he has no other recourse then he will be forced to act but it will be too late and due to some catastrophic horrible event because he done have it in him to make this leadership decision like bush did at the time to double down and do the surge like you said it was politically courageous, the right thing to do and that's where great leaders step in to

they want to use the language that president bush used, i'm all for it.it as a compliment. >> the question is as you point out, marc, what is the policy? we had a situation where barack obama ran for president saying we will change course. i'm running for president to change course, not continue george bush's course and his failed foreign policy and fear mongering of the past. he promised to pull us out of afghanistan after the surge, no matter what the generals said. and he touted that. he went before the u.n. last year and said i got us out of iraq. there's no troops left. i'm going to do the same thing in afghanistan. and then the terror army known as isis, which was jayvee according to him nine months ago emerged, started beheading americans, started threatening jihad. and now suddenly he sounds like he's become george bush. >> yeah, i know. but the problem becomes he's so desperate to distinguish himself from george w. bush that he seems more concerned about that than he is defeating this enemy. because he wants to show a difference with bush he's be

bush but you would be wrong.out life as an ex-president. >> we were laughing about going to restaurants and having to spend our time taking selfies with people. >> at least they're still asking, you know? [ laughter ] >> yeah that's right. >> reporter: it's two former presidents laughing it up like old friend. >> there's a lot to admire about bill clinton. first of all, he's an awesome communicator. >> reporter: and sharing old memory. >> he used to call me twice a year in his second term just to talk. when we talked depending on how much time he had somewhere between 35 and 40 minutes for several years. he asked my opinion on it a lot of time he disagreed with it. >> reporter: they first teamed president clinton andel president bush's father. barbara bush said he began to see the democrat as family. >> i think he thinks of george as little bit as the father he didn't have. i love bill clinton. maybe not his politics but i love bill clinton. >> reporter: on monday they shared their thoughts on leadership with onl

when president bush said these words, policy came out of a principle.writing and rhetoric follows. in some ways, now, you have a policy trying to catch up. i think the white house and administration would have been better off if they'd just said of course it sounds the same the president fought terror like president bush did. moving on. >> yes. >> they're trying to show the president obama has always been almost at war with president bush but doesn't need to be anymore. they have a common enemy they want to use language president bush used, i'm all for it. >> the question is viewpoint is what is the real policy? we've had a situation, barack obama ran for president saying we will change course. i'm running for president to change course. not continue george bush's failed foreign policy and fear mongering in iraq he went before the un and said i got us out of iraq. there are no troops left. i'm going to do the same in afghanistan, then, the terror army, known as isis, started beheading americans, threatening jihad, now, he sundays like he's become george

bush and barack obama very different philosophies, very different parties, but president bush tried toake sure that president obama wasn't given, i'm going to say an empty bask to play with. he actually told him what was in the basket. so focused on the transition. and he actually started to do that quite early. and it was probably to the >>> well, i've said, you know this andy because i said this to you, i will always be profoundly grateful for the way the transition was handled. not only was the president generous to president obama but all of our counterparts were generous to us in terms of briefing us on their jobs and bringing us up to date on things that were relevant for us moving forward. so i was proud of the -- i was grateful to him and proud of our country because of the way that transition was handled. frankly we had beaten the bejesus out of him in our campaign. we were very critical of his policies. and and it said something about our country that despite all that we did work together on something very important at the end of that administration. you mentioned the financi

bush" is at the center of this air war. its flight deck nearly as long as the empire state building is tall and bristling with the most ferocious warplanes in the navy, each loaded with thousands of pounds of bombs and missiles, the f-18 fighters launched on missions to syria and iraq any time night or day. this ship left norfolk, virginia, in the middle of february for a nine-month deployment to the persian gulf. never did they imagine that six months into the deployment they'd be dropping bombs on a group called isis. >> we watch your news. we watch what's going on and we quickly started putting together, hey, this is getting worse. this is getting bad. >> the ship had been conducting missions over afghanistan. but with isis forces quickly taking over territory in iraq, the aircraft carrier was ordered to change course. >> 30 hours after they told us to go, literally we're departing the afghanistan theater, and 30 hours later we're flying combat sorties over iraq. >> many of the fighter pilots had done multiple tours here

and this was known to bush. was known to cheney but, you know, cheney's position was the 1% factor. if there's a 1% chance that saddam hussein has weapons of mass destruction, we have to take action. well, this is justification for what cheney wanted to do. we wanted to punish someone after 9/11. no doubt about that. there was no punishment to be dealt to afghanistan because there were no strategic targetì% because al qaeda had been routed from the country. very effectively by the cia and the military over a two-month period with 450 people. that's why this war is such a tragedy. after december 2001, we should have turned the keys back over to the country. the various ethnic groups who were so effective in getting the taliban out of kabul. and we didn't have to be there for another 12, 13 years with all the losses that we have suffered. >> you spoke in your opening remarks about the cia not being a rogue agency and that the things that have happened is because they've been misused by the presidents. it's my perc

interviewed you bush, bush, bush. >> the numbers that you cite there. >> yeah. >> you consistently wante middle of a recession. >> no, i date it to the day he took office. >> correct. which is the middle of a recession. >> okay. george bush inherited a recession. >> i never said george bush. you said george bush. >> it's nearly six years, austin. >> they lost 5 million jobs in obama's first year. and since then we've added 10 million jobs. you keep saying, but if you look -- >> the common core. we can get around the answer. and it it's close we'll say okay. that's his record. and you know what else is his record? $7 trillion in new obama debt. he will have accumulated more debt than every other president before him combined. >> look. hi. in the last five years we've added almost 10 million jobs. even you got to admit that's at least heading the right way. >> austan, look at the number of people on food stamps. look at the number of people in poverty in this country. >> they expanded who's entitled to get food stamps is why that number is bigger. >> oh, that's why. >> but all of those nu

in fact bush could not have lied. democrats like john kerry sat on the intelligence committee and have access to every piece of intelligence that bush did. it was the democrats who are lying. they were lying because they couldn't admit that they have turned their backs on the war they supported, that they have betrayed their country in order to win a primary election in an attempt to win a national election. the democrats said the war was unnecessary because there were no weapons of mass distraction in iraq but the war was about saddam's determination to acquire these weapons and his violation of 17 u.n. security council resolutions designed to prevent him from doing that. and of course there were weapons of mass destruction but the democrats had put the whole country in denial so even when the evidence smacks them in the face they still can't see it. a month or so ago the big news story was that isis had stumbled onto a chemical weapons storage plant in iraq. the plant had been built by saddam hussein. a news anchor