bush. before he can like to tell you about two upcoming programs that you can view on our youtube channel. on wednesday, june 9 at 1 p.m. p.m. will present a program in partnership with just association of former members of congress called can congress reform itself again? our model will be library of congress carla hayden and panelists will include current and former members of congress. on tuesday, june 15 at noon historian michael burling game will be a to talk about his new book and american marriage, based on 30 years of research he describes and analyzes the marriage between abraham lincoln and mary todd. through its libraries national archives preserves the records of our president back to herbert hoover. the stories told in the library's cover president entire life not just their time in the highest office of the nation. after returning to private life a number of them turn to humanitarian causes and advisory roles, and you'll find those activities documented in the library's as wel

this is the father or job of george w bush. we have to keep in mind, i'm going to america grew up in the east and he really help bringing down the wall . so he's a very, she has a very personal relationship to the bush family. and i think this also played a role in this relationship to, to george w bush with whom i could conduct this interview. and we know the german chancellor . i'm going to make a, she is in washington. she has a busy schedule tomorrow. she's meeting with president by what will be the most important topics to discuss? yeah, there is a lot to discuss it. so last visit as chancellor. i mean, the most definitely will talk about the reason cyber takes out of russia. one of the more kind of sensitive topics will be the question about the north stream to pipeline. and the white house also has opposed the question about the vaccine patterns. because america so far is against giving out them to the world. but president biden wants to make the vaccine information available for the rest of the world and just make them

how do you explained in bush? lashing out if you will against biden's decision to withdraw us troops arrived in the state look brand. this was a very humble and open atmosphere, as you can tell when you watch the whole interview. president, a former president bush is truly worried about the future of i've gone on mainly when it comes to girls and women, as he explained to me, he and his wife, laura met with many african women and i have the feeling that he really connected with him on a very personal level, plus president bite himself actually also said last week that he's also worried about women and girls and i've gone, it's done so that course they don't differ. but president bush, obviously things it's wrong to withdraw. the troops buys and things. it's the right move. yeah, and it struck me, there's a mr. bush said that he's worried about what can happen to women and girls. if the tell the been re take the country mister bush and his entire administration at the time insisted that the board if can stand, was

i see commissioner bush's hand up. go ahead. >> commissioner bush: thank you. i want to just by way of background, are these the first cases we've had involving lobbyists? >> yes, commissioner bush. these are the first provisions of law under the lobbyist ordinance we put forward to you. you are correct. >> commissioner bush: in this particular case, did the lobbyist initially disclose there were no contacts? >> in this matter, no. ms. blackstone has reported all contacts but failed to include the payment she received from her employer which is in this matter, she's an employee of at&t and we contacted her to amend the filings and reflect a portion of her salary to cover the time it took to make those contacts. >> commissioner bush: so it did include who the contacts were? >> yes, that's correct. >> commissioner bush: does that account for the fact that the stipulation is at the level it is? >> can you expand upon that commissioner bush? >> commissioner bush: the fact that those elements were disclose account for a lower stipulated penalty than it might have be

this is the father or job of george w bush. we have to keep in mind, i'm going to america grew up in the east and he really help bringing down the wall . so he's a very, she has a very personal relationship to the bush family. and i think this also played a role in this relationship to, to george w bush with whom i could conduct this interview. and we know the difference chance are going to make or she is in washington. she has a busy schedule tomorrow. she's meeting with president by what will be the most important topics to discuss? yeah, there is a lot to discuss it. so last visit as chancellor. i mean, the most definitely will talk about the reason cyber text of russia. one of the more kind of sensitive topics will be the question about the north stream to pipeline. and the white house also has opposed the question about the vaccine passions. because america so far is against giving out them to the world. but president biden wants to make the vaccine information available for the rest of the world. and jennifer, meg, she ar

now the exclusive interview with george w bush president george w bush doesn't give many interviews anymore. but because of his special relationship to chancellor uncle medical, he invited us to his summer home in may. we talked about the past and the future of the trans atlantic relationships alumni told take on china, on russia. he also explains how he felt when he was rubbing her shoulders. president bush, you have med chancellor, uncle america. so many times do you recall kind of a defining moment? you know, the last time i saw was defining because she flew all the way over to my dad's funeral. and we are at the blair house, which is right across street from white house. my whole family was there and somebody at iowa merkle would like to call on you and it is meant a lot, and i was very close to my day and the fact that she would take time to come really defined, i think our relationship, she's very thoughtful kind of person and i think another time was at the ranch. we've got a ranch, we love in central texas and she and professor sar came revisit, learn me. and i remember she and i wa

this is the father, odd job of george w bush. we have to keep in mind, i'm going to america grew up in the east and he really help bring down the walls. so he's a very, she has a very personal relationship to the bush family. and i think this also played a role in this relationship to, to george w bush with whom i could conduct this interview. and we know the german chancellor . i'm going to make a she is in washington. she has a busy schedule tomorrow. she's meeting with president by what will be the most important topics to discuss? yeah, there is a lot to discuss it. so last visit as chancellor. i mean, the most definitely will talk about the reason cyber takes out of russia. one of the more kind of sensitive topics will be the question about the north stream to pipeline. and the white house also has opposed the question about the vaccine patterns. because america so far is against giving out them to the world. but president biden wants to make the vaccine information available for the rest of the world. and chance are macro s

so what was former president bush's original objective that when he launched the board? if dana stand in 2001 well, he initiated the war in afghanistan as part of the white toes are. his whitehouse go to fight the war on terrorism, also $911.00 because we have to be fair here. and, you know, i think many of us remember that there was a real fear about global terrorism and not only in the united states, but also all around the world. but now the 20th, after the war and after it attentions kind of got modeled and became extremely unpopular. now the sitting president, president biden wants to stop this never ending also because mary, many, many americans are kind of tired to pay for these wars and also kind of lose young american soldiers. i noticed too, in the interview with you that the former president, he did not mention biden by name. what does that tell you meet with he criticizing the former president indirectly i think this was because main intention again, that was a very open and honest conversation. i think he really cares about the situation of women and girls,

what was president bushes? original objective when he launched the war in afghanistan 2 decades ago. well, he saw that this 1st of all is the only way to fight terrorism. again, this came off to the attacks of 911. this is the context we always have to keep in mind when the talk about the start of this very war. and he and his administration, they really believe that strong military action is needed, needed enough, gone as time to really probe a single government, which then would lead to a democratic state. all right, you know the whole of reporting. thank you so much for that. it's for conducted that exclusive interview with former president george w bush gives you reaction now from i've gone is done where all the the sci fi is standing by in kabul. and she has extensively reported from there and has been covering the nato mission in of gone it's done for years. so good to have you with all the for president bush weighing in, you just heard calling that withdrawal from of gone is done. a mistake is that a vie

bush. was supposed to be or had a comic that kept him up in d.c. we will tells many of his stories as we can remember, quite a few of them. my hope is used half this time to talk about questions that i have got for these two. and then will spend the other half taking any questions you have. this when they happy to go if the whole session is being a presidential speech writers exactly think it would be on west ring. that is it. [laughter] i'm kidding it is much more like deep. [laughter] so this is a presidential ideas festival. i'll set up with a question for these two about the relationship about ideas and speeches. sometimes what comes off as an idea ends up in a speech but sometimes a speechwriting process starts before you have the idea. so just curious, what do you think about that process and how an idea becomes a speech? >> in a weird way, as speech writers were not coming up with the ideas for their much smarter people in the building for developing those ideas. and away at these ideas actually get -- they do not get crystallized until they

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bush?ell, i -- i tend want to resist judgments about responsibility that i think can be too simple and therefore, let others off the hook. so if somebody asked me straight out, do i think donald rumsfeld was responsible for the death of my son? i would say no. two think george w. bush is responsible? no. at least not specifically. where does responsibility lie? i have come to believe there is a collective responsibility, that we the people not we the people everyone of us, but we the people are implicated in the iraq war. we the people embraced a conception of america's role in the world that really amounted to support for militarized global hegemony. and in response to 9/11, we collectively concurred with the tragically misguided response of the george w. bush administration and said we should embark upon a global war on terrism. that was a strategic mistake, a moral mistake, but it is one that the majority of the american people signed up to. i don't think there is an easy answer when we

president bush was not really a writer, but he was a real serious editor. very, very confident editor. he had this very, very logical mind. he could read -- you have heard me tell this story -- he could read an eight-page speech draft, throw it down on his desk and look at the ceiling and recite to you the outline of the speech. i am not capable of doing that, but he could internalize it. he called me in one morning real early and he was going to give a speech across town and it was one of these speeches where you had to cover two things that were not related. so you had to in the middle of the speech connect the two. he was going to his final read through before being taken to the hilton or whatever, and he said what is this on page three in the middle paragraph? it was 6:30 in the morning or something. i said, well it is the nature of a transition, mr. president. he said, it is just words, isn't it? i said, yes, sir. he said, take it out. [laughter] he wanted it direct and clear, the way that sorenson used to describe john f. kennedy, he could feel the mo

now, these clue should interview with george w bush. president george w bush doesn't give many interviews anymore, but because of his special relationship to chancellor uncle medical, he invited us to his summer home in may. we talked about the past and the future of the trans atlantic relationships on alumni schools take on china on russia. he also explained how he felt when he was.

bush. ms. of up to be in 2011 to learn about his memoir known and unknown and here's a look at the program. >> we have this gathering because secretary rumsfeld because i've been getting much attention. so we thought that we would make up for that violates having one event and i know you're not doing anything else. [laughter] to make sure that we can get this book the attention it deserves. it is appropriate for us here in the national constitution center because one of the things of the founder, we are serious about was unlikely james in europe they were starting this country to be and make sure that we had a record of our leaders and what they thought about what they did in office read and also they have the record it would be open as soon as possible. >> and get them to quiet down. [laughter] >> and everyone here,. >> there's so much noise. [laughter] >> yes. it's a fake, people try to get upstairs see would like to hear us. [laughter] in any case, we americans have access to water leaders o

it wasn't he went after jeb bush or george w. bush. p politics is a contact sport. at the reagan library in 2015, when dana raised the issue and jeb bush said to donald trump he owed his wife an apology, he refused to apologize for it. he is part of the racist attack on george p. bush's mom. whether he got the payoff he desired or not, i have a difficult time getting past that. whether it is ted cruz or george p. bush, they are willing to look past hideous attacks on family members to get trump's support. >> what is the phrase? >> blood is thicker than water, but not thicker than kool-aid. that is what trump demands sdpdemands. >> i don't know how you make kool-aid. >> this isn't the only person. >> i get the metaphor unless you have sugary kool-aid. sorry, sorry. i'm being technical. >> you are a fiction writier. work with me on this. this is not the first time he demanded someone come out and be in favor of him over a family member. it never goes well. >> i don't think donald trump was asking for it. george p. bush was just doing it. >> but, focus on the behavior

bush, and his daughter, barbara bush, discussing president bush's new book "out of many, 1: portraitsamerica's immigrants". without further a do, president bush and barbara bush. >> host: thanks to everyone for joining us tonight at high, dad. >> guest: how are you? >> host: i am good, congratulations on your new book "out of many, 1: portraits of america's immigrants". >> guest: thank you very much and i want to thank barnes & noble for helping sell it. they have always been unbelievably helpful to authors including me, great company and i am honored to be with you as the moderator. >> host: thanks, dad. i know that many in our audience might be surprised to see you in the new role of an artist. i don't remember talking about art growing up with you. i hope you can tell us why you decided to take up painting. how do you end up on this journey? >> guest: it is little bit of a shock to you and your mother and sister. a lot of other people are very surprised. after the presidency i was busy but i missed learning. i read winston churchill's as a painting is a pastime. i always admired ch

now the exclusive interview with george w bush president george w bush doesn't give many interviews anymore, but because of his special relationship to chancellor uncle medical, he invited us to his summer home in maine. we talked about the past and the future of the trans atlantic relationships alumni schools take on china on russia. the also explains how he felt when he was rubbing her shoulders. president bush, you have met the chancellor, uncle america. so many times do you recall kind of a defining moment? you know, the last time i saw was defining because she flew all the way over to my dad's funeral. and we are at the blair house, which is right across the street from white house. my whole family was there and somebody said i have merkel would like to call on you. and i just meant a lot, you know, i was very close to my day and the fact that she would take time to come really defined, i think our relationship, she's a very thoughtful kind of person. and i think another time was at the ranch. we've got a ranch, we love in central texas and she and professor sar came revisit, learn me.

commissioner bush. >> commissioner bush: as a general rule, at this time and in the future, i think it would be good if the minutes showed which person wrote the minutes and gave it to the commission. if it was the executive director, it should say executive director. if it is someone that has been delegated to that, it should say. i think it's a good practice to know who is the person who compiled the minutes and provided them to us. >> chair ambrose: okay. for the record, who does draft the minutes for the commission? >> minutes are drafted during the course of the meeting and usually captured by legislative affairs counsel pat ford. >> chair ambrose: thank you for that. i'm getting feedback. is that my -- can you hear okay? okay. sorry, i'm just looking to see if anyone else has their hand up. with that, then i'm going to call for public comment on the consent calendar. mr. moderator, can you please read the instructions. >> clerk: thank you. the ethics commission is receiving public comment on item

now the exclusive interview with george w bush president george w bush doesn't give many interviews anymore. but because of his special relationship to chancellor uncle medical, he invited us to his summer home in may. we talked about the past and the future of the trans atlantic relationships. i'm as old take on china, on russia. he also explains how he felt when he was rubbing her shoulders. president bush, you have met the chancellor, uncle america. so many times do you recall kind of a defining moment.

now the lucid interview with george w bush president george w bush doesn't give many interviews anymore. but because of his special relationship to chancellor uncle medical, he invited us to his summer home in may. we talked about the past and the future of the trans atlantic relationships alumni told to take on china on russia. he also explained how he felt when he was rubbing her shoulders. president bush, you have met the chancellor, uncle america. so many times do you recall kind of a defining moment.

he's an embarrassment to the bush family.y, please come. walk in the snow, mom. >> you guys remember that, right? during the 2016 campaign donald trump disrespected jeb bush every single chance he got. it got so bad that even jeb's mother, former first lady barbara bush, later blamed trump for what she described as a heart attack in 2016. now neither of the bush presidents voted for trump, but jeb's own son, george p. bush, channelling his fredo corlione did not follow his family's lead. in 2016 he became the only bush to endorse trump despite the fact that trump had gone after his own momma during the campaign. is it a texas thing to play yourself? because cancun cruz also swallowed his pride to support trump. for george p. the genuflecting paid off at first. trump ended up endorsing him in texas for land commissioner in 2018. now, before he announced his run for texas attorney general bush essentially had to swallow his pride and a healthy dose of that maga milk. he even put out these disturbing drink koozies that featured

bush's. >> maybe george p. needs to get a new koozie which says my bush, which is what donald trump calls him. >> i love it. next it's a big day for answers on the attack on the u.s. capitol. new details about who and what lawmakers will see in the first hearing for the january 6th committee. >>> plus, former senator barbara boxer attacked and mugged on the street. new information on her condition and president biden's infrastructure deal hits a roadblock. a democratic pollster warns that democrats shouldn't get too greedy. when you earn a degree with university of phoenix, we support you with career coaching, including resume building, interview prep, personal branding and more, for your entire career. so if you commit to earning a degree with us, we commit to standing by you until the day you retire. that's career services for life. find out more about our commitment at phoenix.edu. you have the best pizza in town and the worst wait times. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match i

bush: the academic world moves at its own pace. in the commercial world, we're--it moves at its own pace, but there are moments and there are projects that bring everyone into the fold and let the ideas kind of flow. it's very organic. it's the way that thinking works, the way that problem-solving works, the way that you approach a problem from a different perspective sometimes, take a step bk. when you're working on a project, you develop the community that helps you move forward. swezey: now we are at this point where the knowledge that's been accumulated here on abalone farms like this is actually a valuable resource,nd it's a critical step in conserving the species in many ways, not only from a technical standpoint, but also from what was achieved, starting the farm in the first place and getting these animals to persist, and so, in that sense, it is a valuable resource from the years and years of effort to build this place. russo: i think that the time for divers to be passive and to let regulations happen and to let things li

wasn't that fond of the bushes just in general? she ends up liking bush 43. so the two of them, it's again. it's it's a i guess people the general public didn't know about it at the time but in washington, it's not a very well-kept secret and barbara bush, you know is pretty good at dishing it out as as well as taking it. they can hold her own, right? but you know that the fact that nancy reagan refuses to invite them to the the princess diana prince charles dinner, which is the most glittering social event of the entire reagan presidency, and you know, they her advisors to keep going back going, you know, mrs. reagan. we've really should invite the vice president, don't you think and no but i think there's a number of factors and i would ask this question over and over and over again, and i think that for both of them. never really got past the bitterness of the 1980 republican primary campaign. it was easier for the husbands to let go of this then the wives and barbara bush certainly never let nancy forget who she thought ought to be in the oval office rath

think about the eight years under president bush. george w. bush. they did a major voter -- what they call the voter integrity ballot act, the voter integrity initiative. they only charged 119 people, 86 convictions, over five years. we have seen the heritage foundation do a study where they found that there only 56 -- 563 convictions in the last 10 years voter fraud. or any kind of fraud of any kind, election fraud or voter fraud. in the last 40 years, a study found 1300 22 proving cases over 40 years. how many billions of votes were cast during that time? i think just to point out, we are at a point in politics where nobody ever loses anything. either i win, or i have been cheated. one way or the other. we see that in both parties on both ends of the ideological spectrum. in part this is political segregation. sony people live, work come and socialize with people like themselves, so everybody they know votes, and their readership, listenership, viewership, day get to the point where they don't hear anything other than what they want to believe. it

george w bush invited us somewhere. we talked about the past as a special relationship to chancellor. i'm going to medical, i'm not afraid to make a decision was not afraid to leave a kind person with a lovely song. and that's the person i got to know. the exclusive interview with george w bush today at 1530 you t c on the w. ah, the news me, me road traffic cleans all construction noises a form when you should that affect people and wild life around the world every day . in this edition of equal india explode is often overlooked and what can be done to give us a break. hello and welcome some.

bush. but at the same time, very, very few people have, white, black, brown are encountering any , obstacles to voting. i was looking at a survey taken right after this election where the voter study group the democracy fund. they gave people a list of eight possible problems that they could have encountered voting. among whites, it was missing the registration day, unable to get to the correct polling place, requesting a ballot and it arrived too late or did not arrive. we're told they did not have the right identification, was told the registration was not on the list. among whites it was 1% to 2% for each of these problems. for african-americans, it was 3%, 4%, or 5%. for hispanics, it was 5%, 6% or , 7% with the leg which barrier probably accounting for that. i'm not saying there are not some elected officials that seem to be more republican that seem to be trying to make it more challenging for certain segments of the electorate to vote, and that those segments happen to be more democr

legacy bush read it gives interviews anymore. but invited d w 2 in summer home in maine to discuss michael's key moments. he also said that withdrawal of us and allied forces from afghanistan recently after a war started under his leadership, is a mistake. if you would write the history books, what would be your paragraph about america on merkel brought clash and dignity to a very important position. and made very hard decisions. i bet a legacy about merkle was, there is a lot of girls watch on the la merkle say, i too can have a position of responsibility and power from la metro's relationship with letting me put it is somewhat special. sometimes it's really close, sometimes it's more confrontational. how do you see her relationship, or how did you see it when you were in office? well, 1st of all, i fully understood the importance of russia to germany. i mean, food got big influence and he speaks german and, and i one, you know, he's wiley and it can be pretty tough and so can ongoing. so i wasn't worried about putting, running

bush and his daughter barbara bush. they will be discussing president bush's newest book "out of many,one" . out without further ado resident bush and barbara bush. >> to joann. thanks everyone for joining ustonight i . >> how are you? >> i'm good, congratulations on your new book, "out of many, one" . >> thank you to barnes and noble for helping sell it. they've always been unbelievably helpful to authors including me and great company and i'm honored to be with you as the moderator. >> thanks dad, i'm excited to dive into your book but first i know that many in our audience might be surprised to see you in your new role as that of an artist. i don't remember talking about arts all that much growing up with you so i wonder if you could tell us how you decided to take up painting. how did you end up in my mister ? >> i know it's a shock to you and your mother and your sister and a lot of other people are very surprised. barbara, after the presidency i was busy but i miss learning. and i read winston churchill's essay pa

i think over the course of the years, former president bush kind of focus shifted. maybe also because he realized that he needed a fresh, fresh argument to justify this military action. i mean, to just put in some fingers here, we mustn't forget around a $2500.00 us military, lost their lives and x and $40000.00 african civilians died and the total cost for the war was over a $1000000000.00. so this became a very unpopular war here in the united states. and earlier we spoke with a journalist, let's see in a couple. and we asked about the legacy of the nato mission in afghanistan, and got his reaction to those comments by george w bush. i think it's very interesting that he's suddenly, you know, concerned about women and children because, you know, his war made a lot of widows and made a lot of children or friends. you know, there was a lot of, you know, there were, there was, there was an addition, there was gone torno, there was imprisonments, there is night, raise their stroke strikes, there's air shape. there's all kinds of things that if he's concerned about civ

now the exclusive interview with george w bush president george w bush doesn't give many interviews anymore. but because of his special relationship to chancellor uncle medical, he invited us to his summer home in may. we talked about the past and the future of the trans atlantic relationships on mattel to take on china on russia. he also explains how he felt when he was rubbing her shoulders. president bush, you have met the chancellor, uncle america. so many times do you recall kind of a defining moment? you know, the last time i star was defining because she flew all the way over to my dad's funeral. and we are at the blair house, which is right across the street from white house. my whole family was there and somebody at merkel would like to call on you and i just met a lot and i was very close to my day and the fact that she would take time to come really defined, i think our relationship, she's a very thoughtful kind of person and i think another time was at the ranch. we've got a ranch, we love in central texas and she and professor sar came revisit, learn me. and i remember she and

bush did not sign that. lamb: no.he did not, but dick cheney signed the original letter in the year before, setting up the whole project for a new american century a rumsfeld: is that right? lamb: so you had richard armitage over at state, and you had - you know you saw the list. rumsfeld: yes. well, i mean, what i would say is that president bush did not sign. he is the - was the president. he is the one who made the decision, and i think that using the word conspiracy, i think, brian, is a real unfortunate thing. lamb: yes. i'm not using that word - the callers used it. rumsfeld: there are people who - there are people who say things like that, but there is not any shred of legitimacy to the use of that word. lamb: all right. here is an odd and an end i want to ask you about. this comes out of an interview that i did with a fellow named rowan scarborough - a book about you, and i just want - i'll run this, and you tell us, finally, what is true, and what is not true. let's run this.(video starts) i can't be the firs

bush! that is one of the factors in the poll. you see president bush went up. you have to change lenses fast when someone moves to being history. president trump deserves a higher rank for economics, and i think history will bear me out on that. let's look at the other things -- you see jackson going down. president trump -- jackson going down. president trump is more like jackson, an american cowboy. host: on donald trump's debut at 41st, we want to get your reaction. the categories we ask the historians to rank presidents on -- moral authority, international relations, vision setting, pursuing equal justice for all, and their performance within the context of the timess. do we give any further definition of what that should mean as historians make their rankings? guest: one of the problems is it is always best to have 25 years before you judge a president because that is when international archives release documents through freedom of information act. you can start reconstructing a president. you will tend to see we will have a view of the trump presidency th

her 1st, george w bush said he admired her love of freedom. they bonded over grills bore in visits to bush ranch in texas and came barack obama. they grew very close over his 8 years in office though they didn't agree on everything. they shared common views on climate change, human rights and security. then came america of toughest test donald trump's erotic unplugged nation style contrast with novels quietly spoken approach that clashed publicly and privately throughout his term as not, not the past to meet her forth. you as leader all the w, washington bureau chief, sat down with full president george w bush to get his analysis of her legacy. bush rarely gives interviews any more, but because of is a special relationship with michael he invited d. w to his home summer home in maine, he talked about the future of the transatlantic relationship back of kind on take on china and russia. and the moment he massaged her shoulders. if you would read the history books, what would be your paragraph about america on merkel brought clash and dignity to

bush did not sign that. lamb: no.he did not, but dick cheney signed the original letter in the year before, setting up the whole project for a new american century a rumsfeld: is that right? lamb: so you had richard armitage over at state, and you had - you know you saw the list. rumsfeld: yes. well, i mean, what i would say is that president bush did not sign. he is the - was the president. he is the one who made the decision, and i think that using the word conspiracy, i think, brian, is a real unfortunate thing. lamb: yes. i'm not using that word - the callers used it. rumsfeld: there are people who - there are people who say things like that, but there is not any shred of legitimacy to the use of that word. lamb: all right. here is an odd and an end i want to ask you about. this comes out of an interview that i did with a fellow named rowan scarborough - a book about you, and i just want - i'll run this, and you tell us, finally, what is true, and what is not true. let's run this.(video starts) i can't be the firs