someone wants to know missus bush were referred to as president bush as george bush. in my experience, he often times used his nickname to people who knew george bush when he was young knew he had a nickname and i have heard missus bush referred to him. >> she called him pop or probably. she usually called him pop so let me see if i can get this straight. so president bush's name was george herbert walker bush. he was named for his grandfather whose name was george herbert walker, that was his maternal grandfather. when he was growing up, george herbert walker's children all called their dad pop. when little george herbert walker bush comes along, they nicknamed him copy and started a playoff for what they called their father. so president bush was called poppy. i think almost until he went to the navy at the age of 18 after pearl harbor and he wrote somewhere he found out poppy was not a quick name for a young man in the navy, he wants to be a navy pilot but he tried to drop the name. i'm thinking of him writing about no one in texas was called poppy but missus bush

bush and his son george w. bush and it was confusing for george w. bush. george bush finally said i'm 41 and he's 43. brenly got so confusing they just said 41 and 43 as a way to distinguish them are. his chief of staff told me i think it was 43 who called president clinton 42 once and president clinton had made his day. he told the staff oh my gosh. i'm pretty sure was 43 who called in that. he said now i'm a member of the family. >> president bush was reagan's vice president for eight years and there's a question here about they were adversaries and i'm not sure president bush ever thought he would be picked for vp but talk about how that relationship grew between the two of them. >> i should point out and i apologize it predates my book and it predates when i was in president bush's inner circle so i know the answer, i do just from being around for 25 years. president reagan wanted george bush to be his veep p. candidate in the 11th hour at the republican convention. historians among you will remember it was former president ford to encourage a man that

president bush's name was george herbert walker bush.was named for his grandfather whose name was george herbert walker. that was his maternal grandfather. when he was growing up, george herbert walker's children all called their dad pop. so when little george herbert walker bush comes along, they nicknamed him poppy sort of a play off of what they called their father so president bush was called poppy. i think almost until he went into the navy at 18 after pearl harbor. it's not in this book because of course it predates this book. when he went off to the navy, he found out poppy wasn't really a good name for a young man in the navy who wanted to be a navy pilot. he tried to drop the name when he moved to texas. missus bush called him pop until the very end. it was very sweet. this was a problem for you president bush's name was george herbert walker bush. he went by george bush his entire life. he didn't like having four names. he sounded a little stuffy. but then a man named george walker bush was elected president of the united state

bush. before we begin, i'd like to tell you about two upcoming programs we can view on our youtube channel. we'll present a program in partnership with the u.s. association of former members of congress called can congress reform itself again. our moderator will be carla hayden and panelists will include current and former members of congress. and on tuesday, june 15th at noon, historian michael burlingame will be here to talk about his new book, "an american marriage," based on 30 years of research describing and analyzing the marriage between abraham lincoln and mary todd. through its presidential eli prayers, the national archives preserves the records of our presidents back to herbert hoover. the stories cover a president's entire life, not just their time in the highest office of the nation. after returning to private life, a number of them turn to humanitarian causes and advisory roles, and you will find both activities documented in the libraries as well. after leaving office in 1993

bush.ore we begin at i could tell you about two two upcoming s you can view on our youtube channel. on wednesday, june 9 at p.m. will present a program in partnership with just association of former members of congress called can congress to form itself again. the moderator will be carla hayden and panelists will include current and former members of congress. on tuesday june 15 at noon historian michael burlingame will be here to talk about his new book and american marriage based on 30 years of research, he describes and analyzes the marriage between abraham lincoln and mary todd. the national archives preserves the records of our presidents back to herbert hoover. the stories told in the library's cover i president entire life not just their time in the highest office of the nation. after returning to private life a number of them turn to humanitarian causes and advisory roles and you'll find those activities documented in the library's as well. after leaving office in 1993, george bush

so something must know, missus bush, you referred to president bush as george bush. in my experience, he actually often times used his nickname so the people who knew george bush when he was young, knew that he had a nickname. and i've heard missus bush offer this. jean: she called him popular poppy. the me see if i can get this straight. it's a present bush's name was george herbert walker bush and he was named for his grandfather's name was george herbert walker and that was his maternal grandfather. when he was growing up, george herbert walker's children all called their dad pop. so when little george herbert walker bush comes along, they nicknamed him poppy and started the playoffs with what they call their father so president bush was called poppy, i think warren until he went into the navy almost. and at age 18 after pearl harbor, and he wrote, some in this book, this predates this book, but he wrote that he went off to the navy and found out that poppy was on the good name for a young man in the navy was to be a pilot, navy pilot and he really try to drop the

president bush and mrs.o much a part of this place from 1993 until the last years of their life they were here all the time, did programming with us and a literacy program, here for events, was their second home. >> all of c-span's american history programs are available online. go to c-span.org/history and type in your topic of interest in the search box, thousands of programs looking at people and places that shaped our nation all available online, c-span.org/history. this week we are looking back to this date in history. >> armed forces rolled into their beloved city, many of these men appeared since 1940. for four long years they dreamed of this day. the dispossessed have come home again. although present unofficially it was fitting these armies on their way into the city, soon they were lost in the united celebration. ♪♪ the spotlight so brilliantly on general they gaulle, with his presence parisian joy was complete. ♪♪ to him was given the honor of rekindling the everlasting flame at the ark to triumph

bush. cvn 77 which it will be the last sentiments class aircraft carriers, but the built it and presented here in june of i believe. 2019 i believe and they create themselves. we had all the sailors of the year from the from the ship here. we bring them in once a year the sales of the year and they come to the library and do a service project. and then we the cases have the shells that were used for the 21 gun. salute at ellington air force base in houston, which is where the body arrived here in texas from the funeral in washington, dc. we have the guest book firm blair house, which is on the page that angela merkel sign and then we have the condolence book, which is turned to. barack and michelle obama and then we also have the program. and from the service and we have the us senate condolence book, which is turned to. mitch mcconnell's signature we have a photo montage of throughout his life. of course. the early life they were married young. he was just still in the navy when they got m

bush: we are. bill of rights, built in is -- it is a $200 billion bill, but $140 billion goes toward building homes. building ohomes that are affordable for people. the kinds of homes where someone who has experienced homelessness, this is a home that they would be able to acquire. not only that -- because this bill talks about ending holessness by 2025. completely eradicating homelessness. if we could eracate homelessness with the unhoused bill of rights, but weave right w is a crisis that should not be a cris. we have over $40 billion that localities can use to make sure some of this back rent is paid. if we need to go backnd try to work on gettinmore funding, we can do that. right now, but we have on the table out there ready to go, that $40illionwe have to move it now. in order for people to stay in the homes, i understand landlord's need to pay a mortgage so that is why we are also stresng to the states and localities to get that money moving, into the hands of the people that are supposed to

president bush got soli in june of 2018, he served president bush for about six months until the presidentof 2018. we have a picture of him as a puppy with president bush. he did help president bush every day tasks. added a little quality to the last months of his life. the memorial exhibit itself, we have the flag that flew at half staff over the white house. we also have the flag flew over the capitol. one of my favorite items in this exhibit is a ship's wheel that was built by the crew of the uss george h.w. bush. it will be the last in its class of aircraft carriers. the crew built it and presented here in june of i believe 2019 i believe. they created it themselves. we had all the sailors of the year from the ship here. we bring them in once a year, they come to the library and do a service project. the cases have the shells that were used for the 21 gun salute at arlington airport base in houston which is where the body arrived here in texas from the funeral in washington d.c. we had the guestbookok from blair house which is on the page that merkel signed. we have the condolence book

commissioner bush? >> commissioner bush: i'd just like to underscore what you said and comment that she's brought legal skills from working with the city attorney and other commissions, and she also has a good handle on the values of the commission as it moves forward, and i think that we all owe her a debt of gratitude for her work. >> president lee: thank you, commissioner bush, and commissioner chiu? >> commissioner chiu: yes, thank you, chair lee. i'd like to associate myself with your remarks and with commissioner bush's remarks. chair ambrose took over in an extraordinary time, unprecedented time, and i think she led with dignity in challenging circumstances and continued to welcome participation and tried to make our meetings at open and accessible as possible, notwithstanding the complication of phone calls and digital distance, and for that, i really want to thank her for her leadership and wish her all the best in her future endeavors. >> president lee: thank you, commissioner chiu. so with th

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it comes in the form of cori bush.t week, one cori bush said, and i want to make sure i get this right. we need to defund your police while she will spend whatever it costs to protect herself while she quote, unquote, does the work. jillian: i guess we're more than a year into this whole conversation of he defunding the police and i'm not quite sure what those who are still calling to defund the police see that maybe the rest of us don't see, that this isn't necessarily a good thing when you have fewer officers on the street, when you have officers on the street who feel so scrutinized that some of them say they have a hard time even being able to perform their daily duties because when you have even an ounce of doubt in your head, that's going to mess up the job that you do on the street as an officer. the second you hesitate, that changes the game. so i guess i'm just looking for more facts as to how defunding the police is possibly going to be a good thing in our communities, because you've seen polls out there, peo

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corey bush is a squad member.y are proud of their message and a lot of people may say it is corey bush. will she have an impact? she will have an impact. look at the impact she had with the eviction moratorium. she set out on the steps of the capitol and look what happened, the eviction moratorium ended up being extended. every democrat might not be coming to defund the police, the progressive wing of the party and those squad members are making sure their voices heard. todd: they are getting their way. they are getting their way. in the eviction moratorium situation and when you look at the numbers, usa today put out there 77% of americans don't want to defund the police. they are in the opposite 23% presumably and they are the ones getting their way. especially when it comes to their party. interesting to see how that hurts democrats. jillian: we will continue to follow that. covid 19 plagues the southern border. leaders in mcallen, texas running out of places to put migrants despite setting up tentss. todd: gri

bush for america's failure in afghanistan than any other president. 38% rate bush as the most responsible. 19% said donald trump. 12% said barack obama. this is according to an insider poll on fox news, sean hannity's program. donald trump wasn't afraid to point the finger back to george w. bush or the united states intervention in the middle east. here's what he had to say on the handy program last night. >> we took this horrible place. a place that we shouldn't have been involved with. it was a horrible decision, going into the middle east. i know the bush family will not be happy, but i believe it was the worst decision in history of our country, but we decided to go into the middle east. it turned out to be quicksand. we have destroyed the middle east, and is a bigger disaster now than it was 20 years ago. it was a horrible decision. it cost trillions of dollars. i like to look at both sides. millions of lives. it's no different than it was. it is much worse. it has been blown to pieces. it is the worst decision ever made. you could strike as retribution, and it could be a big strike

i think don mcgann and in bush's ear he had a virtual simon bush named to the d.c. court of appeals was not -- it all back then. >> regina kavanaugh's ruling so far show him to be as conservative as expected but as he proven to be as respected this thomas alito and. >> absolutely. he is most of the time voting with alito in gorsuch more often than not. what he does not do though is he does not sign on to their opinion or dissent but often the majority as well so what he is doing is he doesn't like to sign on to their hard right in alito's case angry rhetoric. he wants to take a case even though it comes down to the same place. he will put a soft glow won it, and for instance in the case he sided with them against but he offered his opinion to just what great contributors men and women are and it was some immigration cases where he had eloquence about what a tough time some of these immigrants had a what immigrants have contributed to this country but it came down against the immigrants. >> he definitely is on board with expanding religious liberties even to the exte

cori bush is stupid. why? when you demonize the police, it leads to a rampant increase in violent crime. we have endangered the black community by waging this rhetorical war against the cops. homicides are up 50% right now, which is insane. the only upside to the video is if you listen close, you can hear republican strategists high-fiving in the background, because they are like "we've got a three day weekend. the ads are done." >> kayleigh: we have heard the press secretary say "it's okay if cori bush wants to say this, it's okay if she wants to promote defunding the police. if you are so adamant that we don't want to defund the police, why would you say "i condemn what members of my party are saying?" >> julie: i think democrats reps are celebrating, i agree with jimmy. for her to talk about how she needs $70,000 for security, and that she's willing to pay $200,000 or $10 -- i don't know where the heck -- it was confusing. she needs to take a breath and sit down and relax. these comments are, frankly, detri

bush. yesterday, as the crisis was unfolding bush even put out a statement saying that it gave him quote deep sadness, and then he had the nerve to say there's all resolve to be united and saving lives and praying for the people in afghanistan. really? the guy who bombed and invaded afghanistan, who ran a torture prison, who sent a number of afghans to guantÁnamo bay prison without charging them with anything. that guy is now sad and lecturing the rest of us about human rights and saving lives? what's happened on bushes watch in afghanistan was atrocious. perhaps criminal. that's not my view, in 2017 the international criminal court said that there was enough information to prove that u.s. forces and members of the cia broke international law, they had committed acts of torture, outrageous upon personal dignity, rape and sexual violence in afghanistan. in 2003 in 2004. not only did the bush administration fail miserably and afghanistan over eight years, every president that came after would

bush: the academic world moves at its own pace. in the commercial world, we're--it moves at its own pace, but there are moments and there are projects that bring everyone into the fold and let the ideas kind of flow. it's very organic. it's the way that thinking works, the way that problem-solving works, the way that you approach a problem from a different perspective sometimes, take a st back. when you're working on a project, you develop the community that helps you move forward. swezey: now we are at this point where the knowledge that's been accumulated here on abalone farms like this is actually a valuable resource,nd it's a critical step in conserving the species in many ways, not only from a technical standpoint, but also from what was achieved, starting the farm in the first place and getting these animals to persist, and so, in that sense, it is a valuable resource from the years and years of effort to build this place. russo: i think that the time for divers to be passive and to let regulations happen and to let things li

it starts today with cori bush. was the individual who basically said we need to defund your police, keeping in mind that a situation like this becomes easier when you defund police, there's fewer cops on the streets, cops have less protection and it's them versus the world with an emboldened public. two, she will spend whatever it costs to protect herself while she, quote, unquote, does the work. remember this? >> i have private security because my body is worth being on this planet right now. i have private security because they, the white supremacists, racist narrative that they drive into this country, so suck it up and defunding the police has to happen. jillian: we spent a lot of time talking to chicago alderman anthony napolitano, we talked to him i feel like sometimes always weekly. he's based in chicago. knows what's going on in the streets there. we had him on in the last hour. i asked him if you were to have a sit down, face-to-face conversation with cori bush in light of the remarks that you heard. what

bush's legal team that prevailed in the landmark case of bush versus gore so we could not have a better lawyer leader to be part of this program and secretary baker. thank you for taking time and being with us today for the final mark of this important conference. >> delighted to be with you. >> you've been a leader in so many areas. the logical place to start the conversation is how do you define the word leadership? >> it was the great historian james mcgregor burns who said leadership is a commitment to values and perseverance to fight for those values. that's a pretty good description of leadership. the toughest part of that formula is the commitment to fight for those values and getting it done. in washington dc, even back in the days that i was there it is usually to kill deals, it is hard to make deals and the difficult part of leadership in my view is that doing, the knowing is important but not as tough as the doing. >> obviously a lawyer leader has to be able to persuade. the art of communication both oral and written communication in my mind is an essential trait for the lawy

he said when bush won the election of 2000, my father was so happy. this is the kind of president he needs one that will attack and break the country. he said in clinton's time sent cruise missiles after my father and got away. but he been in afghanistan for ten years you still do not have them. in clinton's time america was smart. not like the bull that runs after the red scarf. it's a very important point because of bret stephens of the "new york times" for example just a couple of months ago wrote an article criticizing withdrawal from afghanistan citing bin laden's taunts that america is the tiger they will turn around and run away forgive them a truck bombing or two. bret stephens is one of the opinion writers of the new york time said this is proof america must pay and continue to double and triple down forever and ever. these were simple taunts by bin laden. this is exactly the reaction are trying to get out of brett stevens and the american establishment. america needs to stay at war until we literally can't anymore because our dollar is compl

weaponizing congresswoman bush's comments. murders and other violent crimes rose sharply in cities across the country. >> i make sure i have security. if i end up spending $200,000 or 10 more dollars on it you know what i get to be here to do the work. >> julie: cnn running the headline cori bush handed republicans a 2022 gift. power panel mercedes schlapp, senior fellow at the american conservative foundation. richard fowler fox news contributor join me now. mercedes i'll start with you. joe biden has come forward and said they are not for defund the police and then they have the now the loudest mouth for the democratic party saying quite the contrary. is this a gift for republicans in 2022? >> absolutely. here is the deal. when you have this sort of division in the democrat party where the biden administration is separating themselves from cori bush's remarks, it is very telling. it just shows that they are quite frankly in a pickle because how are they going to be able to in any way defend what cori bush has said? her comme

bush for america's failure in afghanistan than any other president who succeeded him. 38% ranked bushs the most responsible. 27% said joe biden. 19% said donald trump. 12% said barack obama. yesterday on fox news on sean hannity's program, former president donald trump was not afraid to point the finger all the way back to george w. bush for the united states' intervention in the middle east. [video clip] >> think of it. we took this horrible place, a place that we should not have been involved. it was a horrible decision going into the middle east. i know the bush family will not be happy, but i believe it was the worst decision in the history of our country when we decided to go into the middle east. it has turned out to be quicksand. we have destroyed the middle east. it was a horrible decision that cost us trillions of dollars. if you look at both sides, millions of lives. it is no different than it was. it is worse. the worst decision ever made was going. you can do a strike as retribution and it could be a big strike as retribution for the world trade center, but to get stuck in

bush. yesterday as the crisis was unfolding, bush even put out a statement that it gave him, quote, deep sadness. then he had to say let us all resolve to be united in saving lives and praying for the people in afghanistan. really? the guy who bombed and invaded afghanistan? who ran a torture prison at bagram air base? who sent a number of afghans to guantanamo prison? that guy is sad and lecturing us about saving lives? what happened on bush's watch in afghanistan was atrocious, perhaps criminal. that's not my view. in 2017 the international criminal court said there was enough information to prove that u.s. forces and members of the cia broke international law. they had committed acts of torture, cruel treatment, outrages of personal dig nilt, rape and sexual violence in 2003 and 2004. not only did the bush administration fail miserably in afghanistan over eight years, every president that came after w. would in some respect double down on his failure, even joe biden, who in my opinion de

bush. that is when the factors in the pole. you see president bush 43 president bush went up. we had to change lenses when we look at history. i believe that played a role in president trump for economics. i think history will bear me out on that. let's just look at the other things, you see jackson going down president trump is more like andrew jackson. more of a cowboy. cowboy said not do wellin americans opinion. >> quickly on president trump 4t ranking his debut at 41st. in these categories we ask historians to rank the presidents on, public persuasion, crisis leadership, economic management, moral authority, international relations, international skills, relation with congress, the vision setting and agenda pursuing equal justice for all in the performance within the context of the times. do we give any further definition of what that should mean as historians make the ranking? >> one of the problems is you wait for 25 years to judge a president. that is when the archives are receipt releasing documents on the freedom of information act. you could start getting papers to

bush. that is when the factors in the pole. you see president bush 43 president bush went up. we had to change lenses when we look at history. i believe that played a role in president trump for economics. i think history will bear me out on that. let's just look at the other things, you see jackson going down president trump is more like andrew jackson. more of a cowboy. cowboy said not do wellin americans opinion. >> quickly on president trump 4t ranking his debut at 41st. in these categories we ask historians to rank the presidents on, public persuasion, crisis leadership, economic management, moral authority, international relations, international skills, relation with congress, the vision setting and agenda pursuing equal justice for all in the performance within the context of the times. do we give any further definition of what that should mean as historians make the ranking? >> one of the problems is you wait for 25 years to judge a president. that is when the archives are receipt releasing documents on the freedom of information act. you could start getting papers to

he chases policy through his e work with bush and clinton. during this 20-year period he comes to terms with all he had achieved and all he had lost. the conventional wisdom says he accidental confessed during the watergate section of the interview with david frost. this has been a myth that frost and others have perpetuated for some time. the reality is quite different. they talked about it in advance. what he wanted to say when the question came up. he apologized for his moral failures. he said i screwed it all up but would never admit to any criminal wrong doing because he didn't think he violated any criminal laws. this would be the message he would use the rest of his life when asked about this topic. it came not as an accident during the frost nixon interview, it came as a planned answer to a question that they had together. still the moral failures weighed on him. he dealt with it in his own way. he dealt by beginning to reveal himself more and more and become public with people. his opponent called to let limb know he was dying of can