bush clinton, bush. w clinton. >> well, hillary, there hasn't been a republican white house without a bush since 1977 and we're ready to be back. >> let me shoot straight with you, jeb. bill and i are dead broke. we need a place to stay. 1600 pennsylvania ave is calling me home. maybe we can work something out. we both agree on so many issues. bigger government, common core and amnesty for illegal immigrants. >> well, we've both got problems. you've got problems with grass roots and i've got all of those damn conservatives. what's say we make a deal. sorry, hillary, i have to go. mitt keeps calling. >> matt lewis grinning away there in washington. >> okay. i thought the hillary impersonation obviously much better than the jeb. >> yeah. >> they got to find a good jeb, you know? i don't know how you do him. it's easier to do bush in this. jeb is tougher to do. i think it's funny. you know who knows how long -- at some point we have to talk -- you know, rand has to have sub substance substance. i thought it

bush clinton, bush now clinton. >> well hillary, there hasn't been a republican white house without aush since 1977 and we're ready to go back. >> let me shoot straight with you, jeb, okay? bill and i are dead broke, we need a place to stay. 1600 pennsylvania avenue it's calling me home. maybe we can work something out, now he we both agree on so many issues. bigger government common core and amnesty for illegal immigrants. >> we've both got problems you've got problems with the grass roots and i've got all those dam conservatives. let's say we make a deal? sorry, had hill re i have to go. mitt keeps calling. >> all right. so jeb kind of sounds like the grinch where hillary sounds exactly like hillary. they've got a good hillary in that add -- or fake ad. during a meeting with house democrats the president called for new spending on programs he introduced if in his state of the union including child care paid sick leave and free community college. the increases amount to a 7% budget hike and the president said the money can be found by fixing the tax code and closing up special intere

yet bush, clinton, romney of course it's a legacy cane santorum huckabee. e exception of george w. bush you have to go back to nixon, i think in 1960, to find a nominee who wasn't a second or in bob dole's case a third go around. that part of it, but i think democrats probably have -- may have an easier primary if clinton does prong and i'm proved wrong, as i suspect. >>> no you know the thing about the republican primary is not just a legacy primary. you do have a number of fresh faces there so at least the republicans will have a discussion. after a very bruising and sometimes different conversation. that person who emerges is the person that maybe they didn't all want, as we saw with several previous nominees, but at least they were okay with rallying behind. if they do core onate hillary clinton, they don't have that conversation. it may be better for them for winning an ease electric. and if there isn't much of a ben back there you know, i think the party should hope that jim webb and elizabeth warren or something are serious about running, and do run j

it's going to be another bush-clinton. i am already bored to death. i think this is the worst thing that could happen to either party, to the nation, to tell the truth. on the republican side i mean, at least the way i see it, we all know jeb is the brightest of the bunch, he should have been president first, he would have been if he hadn't lost for governor of florida first time around. he was the pick of the litter. we ended up with the dimmer bulb. you know. whatever. metaphors all over the place. but george got it. he did it, jeb too bad. you lost your chance. i don't think the nation is ready for a third bush. to go back that far for the republican party to someone who hasn't flun a competitive race for 20 years is making a big mistake. but i say the same on the kemic side. what does it say about the gene pool of this nation that we have to go back to 1992 to get a democratic candidate for president? i love hillary but again, i think she had a chance and blew it. i think the democratic party particularly, needs any blood, now gnu ideas new leader

. >> i don't know bush/clinton is so familiar. we're used to hearing this. i think if the republicans begin again to have a serious, serious war among themselves over their candidate, that it's a gift to hillary clinton assuming they runs, and i am assuming she's running since several people one important person at coca-cola left her job last week to be an advisetory mrs. clinton. but i think bush/clinton may tire out the country. >> gary's point is a important point. this is the most serious group of republicans running since 1980. in this particular group you've got several governors, you've got extraordinary people any one of whom could be a good president and at the end of the day, it will be about money. who could raise money with that organization together. this could be 150, 200, 300 million primary process. if you don't have $50 million or $75 million to get into the game you're going to be not at the table stakes. >> i think it's important that a grew group of formidable candidates can work out an agenda. republicans need a good strong agenda, their

bush clinton bush and now clinton. >> hillary there hasn't been a republican white house without a bush since 1977. >> that was not, not awful that was bad. rand paul, stick to the chair. i want to talk about chris christie for awhile. i think it was really, really wrong for them to run that tape. if that happened on "red eye" it would be a violation of my job as a host. i think it is wrong. >> and thank you by the way for not releasing those tapes, plural. >> you didn't fall off a chair. you fell on a screwdriver. >> it was very awkward. he is a greatest and he is kind enough to go to the show. just releasing it on its own is it pretty rude and let alone with the music. why that music? to me like "it's raining men" or something. >> hey. >> i agree it was wrong to release the tape. can we show it for a third time? seriously we showed it twice. >> we didn't show it twice. >> while you were talking. >> it is already out there. >> it's news. >> all of this discussion was part of the political arena. who cares who the man -- whatever. it is a childhood thing. he was a dallas fan who cares?

bush clinton, bush now clinton. >> well hillary, there hasn't been a republican white house without a bush since 1977. we're ready to be back. >> bill and i are dead broke, need a place to stay. pennsylvania avenue is calling me home. >> read my lips hillary. we're not backing down this time. >> on second thought, maybe we can work something out. we both agree on so many issues. bigger government common core amnesty for illegal immigrants. >> we've both got problems. you've got problems with grass roots, and i've got dann conservatives. let's say we make a deal. sorry hillary, i have to go. mit keeps calling. >> for try crying out loud. >> okay. so cue laughter. they're mocking two dynasties. even barbara bush. do you remember the sound bite saying america doesn't need another bush in the white house? do you think there's a point in that? >> the humor from paul? as it wore on, it wasn't as funny as it could have been. he's trying to drive the message same old same old. we're going to hear about change. >> change of what? >> faced with prospect of another bush in the white house, i thi

if it's going to be jeb bush, i think hillary's very excited about that because she can say do you want the clintonor do you want a bush economy in and i think it'll be very easy for him -- for her to turn him into w. >> taste see when you -- stacey, when you look at the number why do you think democrats are pulling away from hillary clinton? >> because her numbers are plummeting. >> so it's a self-fulfilling prophesy? >> yeah. no one believes her. no one believes, not even the democrats, that she can lead this country. and no one believes a word she said. >> and she's boring. >> you're nodding. >> i'm saying at this point, what difference does it make? >> thank you. [laughter] >> the whole bush/clinton thing, can we move on, people? i'm a guy i'm always touting we need term limits. no more of these 40-year careers for people in congress. six years max. we need new blood. >> so when you hear and i used the quote, so did campaign carl cameron -- >> is that his name? >> yeah, he's trademarked it. [laughter] >> he's got a tattoo. >> you earn that name -- >> i want to ask him i want to ask him people w

regime has survived the presidencies of eisenhower, kennedy, johnson, nixon, ford, carter reagan bush, clinton, and obama. that's 11 presidencies. it's not going to fall by itself. we don't know what will work but 50 years of futility is probably about enough. >> jason, as we've heard in this hour critics of this policy say this was the time because the soviets are no longer supporting like they did, neither is venezuela because of falling crude prices. if this is the time, critics say this is a lifeline to the castro brothers. >> well, what we've learned is that if you look at countries like china and vietnam you can have relatively economic free countries that co-exist with political repression. and that's what we have in cuba. and you also have to remember or that's what we could possibly have in cuba under this regime. you also have to remember that while the u.s. has not been trading with cuba for a long time, other nations have, and there's no reason to believe that u.s. dollars will work some sort of magic that hasn't been worked by these other countries in the west that have long been

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bush, clinton, bush now clinton -- >> hillary there hasn't been a republican white house without a bush since 1977 and we're ready to be back. >> let me shoot straight with you, jeb, okay bill and i are dead broke. we need a place to stay. 1600 pennsylvania avenue it's calling me home. >> make we can work something out. we both agree on so many issues. bigger government common core and amnesty for illegal immigrants. >> well, we've both got problems. you've got problems with the grass roots and i've got all of those damned conservatives. let's say we make a deal. sorry, hillary, i have to go. mitt keeps calling. >> that's rand paul and we can't help but smile. part of that call is how they discuss how they share a lot of same policy objectives such as immigration reform and that goes to the idea of jeb bush perhaps being more like a centrist than way on the right. >> there it is again, it's the difference between jeb and george w., the difference between the climates. back in 2000 when george w. ran, it was the success in the 90s, we have to emulate bill clinton and that was what he was

clinton has a -- how does she not get sucked into this vortex. romney created this story line now of oh my god it is romney huckabee, bush it is clinton.ts sucked into that vortex. how does she avoid it? >> i don't think democrats believe the nostalgia for clinton ends with tragic losses in two different presidential campaigns. i believe they believe her resume as secretary of state is something that lifts her up. i think -- >> do you believe that? >> i do. look i think if you're mitt romney there isn't one negative that you had in either 2008 or 2012 that you in any way mitigated leading into 2016. there is no reason to believe that 3.0 is going to be any different than 2.0. i think hillary clinton quietly had a very good week bringing in people like john podesta people like joe bennett who will be different actors in a presidential campaign and have the potential to change the outcome because the infighting will be less, because the characters will be different. >> and it is all obama. >> third term. >> any president -- anybody that runs on the democratic side and hillary clinton will almost certainly be the nominee will agree some w

is getting close to making a move but it will be a long time before we know if there will be a bush/clinton match. first, he must navigate a fierce republican primary. elizabeth? >> all right, jeff, thank you so much for lining it up for us. >>> now, to the skyrocketing cost of prescription drugs in this country. many americans who normally turn to generic alternatives are finding they're not always much of a bargain anymore. prices of several popular generics are soaring. pharmacies are getting hit hard. and some are even shutting their doors. abc's chief business correspondent rebecca jarvis investigates. >> reporter: brother and sister glenn stoken and beth stevens ran the only pharmacy in the small town of salem, new york for the last decade. the sign used to be up there? >> we had a gold sign up there. >> reporter: but tonight, it's out of business. >> cost of drugs are skyrocketing. especially je never ickes. >> reporter: shutting its doors last year, they largely blame the skyrocketing cost of some of their most popular generic drugs, and say insurer reimbursements haven't kept up wi

bushes. one guy wanted a congressional resolution that said clinton and bush couldn't run. >> the desire for may advantage rand paul. mitt romney's motivation -- people think in the end he won't do it. that all this talk is really antagonism against watching jeb bush getting so far out front that this is kind of -- if jeb can do this i can do it. in the end he will realize that there will be a reality check that third time is not a charm. >> part of this is personal. we have to remember politics is more importantalpersonal than we think. jeb never liked his decision to flip. >> the world is governed by 4-year-olds. >> i thought the -- i thought we were at the adult table. >> the adults look at the kids on the playground. tell what kind of conservative you are by what year you want to go back to. i don't think romney is old enough. going back to peter heart, as bush steps out, as romney and clinton steps out, the country is recoiling. that focus group is part of the recoil. if ever there was a super highway for elizabeth warren and something like that, that is wide open. >> and rand paul. >>

you and your column this morning say it is going to, it looks like it will be jeb bush versus hillary clinton out of the debate and you're saying -- out of the gate and you're saying jeb bush could be the frontrunner. what are you talking about? >> i think he will be wise enough to make sure he can get votes from people of color. the republicans have not been able to get votes from people of color because they have gone away from programs that affect the lives those people. suddenly however, the latino world says we want to be heard and i think bush speaking spanish will get them. >> do you think he will pick a minority as a vice president? they both might. >> no question. i don't know if she will, but he lchlt she starts out already -- but he will. she starts already on the woman side. >> is anybody grossed out by the fact that we might have another bush versus clinton race? this is why americans are getting sick of politics. there is sufficient nepotism involved. >> oh my god. you would proceed to say that? these are qualified people. just because they're dna from one collection of families

republicans seem to be fretting over it. >> you have to wonder what roger clinton and hugh rodham have been doing. george bush said when i was younger and irresponsible, it is possible to wall off your family. the hardest thing for a first time candidate, the clintons know they have this coming. is to say to your staff and family not only joy have to tell you everything they could, but my parents and siblings and kids. i bet this is the weakest link in the lot of these campaigns and if you're right, one or more of these candidates will go down on family stuff. >> i do not think you can do the george w. bush thing. there are too many players in the game who were not there. >> you cannot stop the supermarket tabloids and drudge and other websites. if you work it in a disciplined in principle -- and principled way. think of a pushback strategy ended -- and intimidation strategy that works. siblings are the hardest area they're adults but not so close to you that you have the same leverage. chelsea clinton is part of the campaign. three guys who might run for president are in the news because they said some inter

there he is with bush one, clinton and bush two. >> sometimes just a pleasantry like welcome to the housenever think about what i'm saying until i'm actually there. >> reporter: at 3:00 today the house historian posted this picture of the house chamber 150 years ago. little known fact, for most of this country's history, the state of the union address was actually just a written document known as the annual message. the first televised state of the union was 1947, harry truman. >> each group of our population has its own responsibility. >> reporter: president obama has been working on his speech for weeks, even while on vacation. this is a picture of him with his speechwriter, 34-year-old cody keenan, who obama calls hemingway because he often sports a beard. at 3:55 today, a tweet from the comedy site, the onion. headline, biden arrives early to set up state of the union fog machine. minutes later at 4:00, senator marco rubio meets the press. you may remember rubio took some ribbing in 2013 when he delivered the republican response to the state of the union and he stopped for a drink of

but do you think americans really want either a bush or a clinton in the office? n i used to think there was a massive sort of bush fatigue, if you will. but i think that what most people want is the person that's actually credible and can do the job. so i used to think it was bush fatigue. i don't think that anymore. i used to think it was clinton fatigue after clinton. i don't think that anymore. i think that again, people just judge the candidate on the candidate's qualifications. and jeb bush and hillary clinton are both imminently qualified to be president of the united states. the question becomes, does bush actually pull the trigger and the same thing for secretary clinton, does she do the same? i suspect both will end up doing that. >> mercedes, do you think that jeb bush is the right candidate to help republicans win back the white house or can he even get through the primaries? >> well i think that's going to be a big challenge for governor bush. obviously he has a very conservative record when he was governor of florida. with that being said obviously wh

about hillary clinton as the front-runner candidate for the democrats, the possibility of a second bush/clintongot the political world just spinning. i mean people are going a little bit crazy here carol. he is popular with the party establishment, brings in big donors, speaks fluent spanish. governor of a state that of course is needed to capture the presidency florida. he also has a lot of criticism, however, from his own party particularly from conservatives see him too moderate on immigration reform and education and one political commentator tweeting this just a couple weeks ago saying "another bush versus another clinton, political vomit." yes, people are not holding back here. >> i've heard that from a lot of my friends, so i totally understand that. >> it's going to shake up things very much so and potentially an already crowded field. we've been talking with politico types and they say this is bad for three potential folks, republican candidates, one being chris christie the other big name establishment named candidate and the second senator marco rubio, who is close to jeb bush unlike

>> there is no jeb bush if there is no hillary clinton. jeb bush cannot run for president if hillary clinton is not the presumptive nominee. his sameness out of a population of 170 million where no one other than a bush or clinton is eligible to run for president is laughable. but since hillary clinton is running it opens the way. so she makes his candidacy possible. but he makes her candidacy possible because he would remove from her the sayness and the old washington come back to play. chris stirewalt, thank you for joining us. i certainly hope you have a happy new year. leland: we have a fox update on airasia flight 8501. 30 bodies have been recovered with the help of sonar equip. some of those bodies were still belted into their seats. they are still battling rough seas in a search for the black boxes. >> reporter: it's been called the most successful date yet for the sad recovery efforts for airasia flight 8501. despite another day of bad weather, the u.s.s. sampson locating 12 bodies. the bodies are being transferred back to the indon

who could forget really carter neil bush, roger clinton resident -- relatives of president say the darndest things. when they get into pickled the jews usually splashes on the -- the juice usually splashes on the candidates. this is mike pence's mom. on page six in the new york post after crashing the family suv into a parked car, will the candidates relatives be off-limits or on limits? >> on. there are no boundaries anymore. you never get a break. you have to go in with wide eyes -- eyes wide open. and with the stomach for it. people have expressed concerns about family being a decision maker -- a factor in decision-making. if you think about the person who is likely to have the most liability issues is hillary clinton and not the republicans seem to be fretting over it. >> you have to wonder what roger clinton and hugh rodham have been doing. george bush said when i was -- george bush successfully put off not just his kids but himself. it is possible to wall off your family. the hardest thing for a first time candidate, the clintons know they have this coming. is to say to your staff and

are we looking at a situation where we're hearing romney and hearing clinton and bush where it's going to be a past versus future setup? >> romney clinton, bush paul the son of somebody huckabee it's a lot of reruns. i think you're seeing a split inside the party. you saw these governors who by the way in 2007 some were county officials and city officials and didn't have elected jobs just when mitt romney and hillary clinton started running for president. i think there is that feeling particularly inside the republican party, how does it express itself? there's romney itself where even establishment figures who liked him are thinking boy, three times, that's probably one too many. >> chuck, thanks for joining us. a reminder you can see "meet the press" every sunday right here on nbc4 right after "news 4 today." >>> we go from one chuck to another. >> that's right. two chucks at the same price. this chuck has a little rain to tell us about. >> that's right. gloomy morning outside. no 123450i7b really anywhere across the area. tall washington metro area covered up in the clouds. the rain

am intrigued by the 1992 campaign, particularly if jeb bush wins the nomination and you have a bush-clintonace again. i think we are living in the same world we were in 1992. a center-right country that is not quite sure what to move on from here, and the broadly center-right section of the electorate is at odds with each other. you have more of a business, chamber of commerce, wall street wing of the republican party and more of a grassroots, conservative politics wing. if there is anger at the party you could see another spoiler movement. i am not sure ben carson is the man for that. and the u.n. -- there is really no political momentum >>'s former national security council director richard nelson discusses u.s. counterterrorism efforts to prevent lone wolf style attacks on the homeland. we will take your calls and you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. washington journal is live at 7:00 eastern on c-span. >> dr. anthony fell is on the front line line battling against infectious diseases. >> we have drugs right now if someone has hiv, i can show that i economy in the early

. >> he said, a bush-clinton race is going to be a referendum on the politics of the other bush and otherdoes not see how a bush can win. the opening bell is a few moments away. >> it looks like we are opening slightly higher. ♪ >> >> welcome you back to "in the loop." very riddles, our columnist, and also olivia sterns. barry, we are bringing you here because you wrapped up a two hour long interview with bill gross. >> this was for the masters in business weekly series that runs on the weekend. it will be a two-parter. i had to let him run over to the barron's roundtable. i could have kept him there for another hour. every question, he had a really detailed -- >> tell us what bill gross said. >> a lot of fascinating things about the fed, about his exit from pimco. he basically said they fired him. i do not think he said that previously. he said he made them an offer that in addition to total return funds, which is the big flagship fund, he was running five small close in funds, which was the subject of our bloomberg review column today. according to morgan stall, the close on the funds w