busses are back. so we have two proposals for your consideration today. option 1 is the request from the alamo square neighborhood association that all streets within that shaded area be restricted to commercial vehicles with 9 or more seats with the exception of employer busses, the neighborhood association does not want to prohibit the google type busses from operating in the neighborhood, and also relocating the tour bus loading zone which is currently on fell west of divisadero to fell street just east of pierce street. so all the east-west streets and all the north-south streets within the shaded area would be restricted to tour busses. some of the issues, it would require san francisco police department to enforce these restrictions. we put up signs like the one shown on the top. with the tour bus loading zone on fell street there is a safety concern because it's just west of the crest of the hill between steiner and pierce streets. if people don't park -- if the busses don't pull all the way ov

the number of busses. september 14th, okay, this is me counting, september 14th, that's the first page, okay? that's the second page, okay? same thing on sunday. these are all large tour busses from out of town that are multi million dollar companies from dubai, london and elsewhere. we're not going to take it any more. >> next speaker, please. >> option 1. >> john dallas, christine that odonnell >> good afternoon. >> thank you for hearing us, i'm john dallas with the alamo square neighborhood association. a couple, 4 years ago i kind of started this ball rolling because i was trying to have a conversation on my sidewalk and i couldn't hear the person i was talking to, it was a saturday morning and the busses

and tour busses. if large numbers of busses idling is a problem they are also a problem for employer busses. tour busses are not the only way to see the city. thank you very much. >> robert weiner followed by pete wilson and john billow. >> herbert weiner, resident of richmond. i thought the viking invasion was bad. in sea crest there's a prohibition on busses that are too big. that prohibition is in effect already, why doesn't it apply to neighborhoods throughout the city? this should be a protocol. the other thing is if busses want to tour the neighborhoods, why can't they have small scale busses doing this? i mean, what's wrong with the small bus? and i think that basically what the tour busses do, they are in there and they are out of there and they get a bird's eye view and the neighborhood is virtually in a fish bowl and people are on display and what i really don't like is you buy a house in these residential areas and then you have a high noise level, you are virtually trapped with the tour bu

a small number of employer busses or google busses, about 3 percent at that time. so we tracked where the busses are going and this map shows that almost all of them wound up on hayes street on the south side of alamo square at one time or another, some were going east, some were going west. the ones going east tended to fan out on to various neighborhood streets after crossing steiner street. in june 2013 the alamo square neighborhood association asked us to do some updated counts. this is primarily because things have changed, the hop on hop off operators have formed an organization and decided to stop going by alamo square, they changed their route in order to not be so disruptive to the neighbors. so we got some different findings at that point. overall in 2011 we counted a bus about every three minutes. in 2013, two years later, it was down it a bus about every 7 1/2 minutes mainly because the hop on, hop off busses were not coming by at that time. we had about the same number of enclosed busses so their percentage jumped up to 62 percent. we had a little decr

the number of busses. september 14th, okay, this is me counting, september 14th, that's the first page, okay? that's the second page, okay? same thing on sunday. these are all large tour busses from out of town that are multi million dollar companies from dubai, london and elsewhere. we're not going to take it any more. >> next speaker, please.

and the second item i'd like to bring up about the new fire busses, boarding on the new fire busses are a great improvement from the previous low floor busses but ideally i'd like to see that we continue to improve the safety of passengers to be able to board on the sidewalks. that's all i have for now. okay, talk to you later. >> thank you, mr. wong >> christopher folkerson, followed by michael katrellis. >> good afternoon, mr. folkerson. >> good afternoon, board members, in item 13 i'd like it speak about the needs we have in the taxi dispatch proposed for this item, i'd like to speak about the situation we actually have. i'd like to apprise you of the fact the taxi tronic is far less accurate than our worst case scenario of what it might be. i'm not able to even get all my waybills off it and of four waybills away, just in four waybills that i've been able to find, i'm being overcharged, it's being claimed i made $51,000 more than i have, just in 4 shifts. one waybill 100 pages long claims i made $30,000 one night. taxitronic is completely out of control, they cannot be relied upon u

my children love the tour busses. i don't think the tour busses are dangerous as a former tour bus driver. and my last name is wilson, it's the no. 1 scotish name in the united states of america and if it was president for the vikings invading england i would not be here. thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> john billow, berry toronto, espinola jackson. >> my name is john billow, i'm a local tour operator. if there are so many tour busses going it alamo square then it's reasonable to believe that customers want to go to alamo square. so if you are going to restrict them via option 1 then you will need to create an anti-alamo square as part of that roll jot. i see the 7-sisters image as often as any other being used to bait people to come to san francisco. please remember san francisco and los angeles have the second highest tax percentage behind san antonio. san antonio gives 6 percent of their 15 percent to the arts. san francisco does not, the city just keeps it. if we are going to continue to fleece the people, w

one year was busses and taxi have ans, i drove double decker busses and i gave tours along those various corridors. i really think that just as the stretch of scott street near debose used to be known to people and get a lot of attention and no longer is remembered, i think we should just let the whole steiner street thing pass, there are better places to view painted ladies, they are not the best painted ladies, the ladies have an ability whether you glimpse the magic and you don't want them to be disappointed with you, if you have something maybe as large as a maxi van, my experience is either you let them see the bishop mansion, steiner street or steiner street for a bus driver making a turn is a very big deal. any time those busses are making a turn in those neighborhoods you should think of that as approximately the same thing as an aircraft carrier coming through the golden gate bridge and that's about how it feels to do one of those, that's about the kind of attention it draws on the neighborhood. i really think that you could tell people there are better painted ladies on golden

can operate, this week, san francisco banned tour buss in alamo square.but this driver says that could be a mistake for sausalito. >> so during the summer time, we bring thousands of people here, which supports the economy and this poor little town, you know? it's marin county but yeah. so, you know to ban this i don't see how that would float. >> merchants say the town was built on tourist dollars >> people come on a tour bus once and then come back without the tour bus. >> reporter: now, buss keep rolling n city council may consider restricks next year. >> noins thanks for joining us. abc7 news at 5:00 begins right now. >>> a bay area college student is tormented over the kro color of his skin. >> imagine coming home from shopping and you get held up at knife point. >> live on the roof of the kgotv broadcast center. strong winds and danger they're bringing, coming up. >> also tonight bart's contract snafu. other shoe just >> outrage growing in san jose state. students protest the treatment of a black student saying hes with a taunted and abused by three

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today, it was voted to ban all tour buss from the area. neighbors complained to the city about too much traffic, especially noise and exhaust emit ed from the tour buss >> rain made an appearance today. we welcome the rain we get. here is a look at the skyline. you can see clear skies that brought us rain. wayne freedman traveled to the north bay, is live tonight in novato. wayne? >> reporter: we're in grant avenue in novato. we spent the day looking for ram ficks of the rain. we looked. we found it. make note of this. your rainy season first known video of a person with an umbrella. not that it rained as much as he'd hoped. >> it was spattering. >> it's a drizzle. >> but enough to slicken highways and for chp to dust off the warning about water, tires and slippery residue on the pavement. >> takes about a week or so. >> longer for a week for other issues to rectify. lake mendocino at 30% capacity. the water level as low as it's ever been this time of the year. >> we're happy to see this rain. we can use a lot more of it. >> pam jean, assi

exhaust emit ed from the tour buss >> rain made an appearance today. we welcome the rain we get. here is a look at the skyline. you can see clear skies that brought us rain. wayne freedman traveled to the north bay, is live tonight in novato. wayne? >> reporter: we're in grant avenue in novato. we spent the day looking for ram ficks of the rain. we looked. we found it. make note of this. your rainy season first known video of a person with an umbrella. not that it rained as much as he'd hoped. >> it was spattering. >> it's a drizzle. >> but enough to slicken highways and for chp to dust off the warning about water, tires and slippery residue on the pavement. >> takes about a week or so. >> longer for a week for other issues to rectify. lake mendocino at 30% capacity. the water level as low as it's ever been this time of the year. >> we're happy to see this rain. we can use a lot more of it. >> pam jean, assistant general manager of the water agency says she we need eight inches. this morning they tallied 1/100ths of an inch. jeff says it's too early to

tom also mentioned about school busses and we realize, right, because this is not just about teachers, this is not just about forward-looking superintendents or guidance councilors or mental health professionals in schools, i don't need to tell anyone in this room about what's been happening on school busses. we are in partnership with the nea and companies helping train bus drivers so they know what to do better. you've seen the ad council campaign on bullying, it's really about the civic will to deal with this, encouraging conversations at home, that kind of social campaign is important to do that, and to encourage young people not to stand by in silence. so much of this, if you are not the perpetrator, if you are the victim but you see it, empowering young people to do something about it when they spot it. lastly, the partners recently announced a stop bullying video challenge where we are bringing together psa's that highlight what's happening by young people and want to give awards and celebrate that. and, as i mentioned earlier, the grants, the money, the department of education

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everybody they bussed to the terminals can't leave.re still here, i guess because it's a crime scene. >> what are they saying? even if you find a taxi? >> no, there's no -- they said no ground transport, no leaving. they're letting us stretch our legs, which is nice, but probably the quietest that l.a.x. has ever been. everything is closed down, most of the restaurants except for a few bars, are closed. >> you and your fellow passengers, you spent four, five hours on the plane on the runway as you waited for permission to get to a terminal? >> yeah, we spend five hours on the plane, and then just deplaned to wait again. we had to donate diapers, and they brought water, because people needed it. you know, it's not so bad for me, but there were elderly and children on there. they had to cake care of their needs. >> what i don't understand is why, if you were coming in, why they still are holding you in terminal 1. are they giving you an explanation? >> i have to be honest, we haven't got a lot of explanations. nobody seems to know what's

residents tell the chronicle that in the peak tourist season they see more than 50 of these buss in their neighborhood each day. they don't like the traffic. they don't like the exhaust. they think it's dangerous. the tourism industry is not too thrilled saying there are already limits, places like twin peaks, north beak. in san francisco, tourism is huge. one resident says the buses, they don't bother him. >> do you think it's fair for someone who comes internationally to see san francisco, and they can't see these wonderful homes on a coach air conditioned? >> rent a car. that's the best thing to do. >> do you see a lot of these buses around here. >> i see a lot of them. >> reporter: are they in the way? >> i don't know. i don't really drive so it doesn't make me a difference if they're in the way or not. >> reporter: so you don't mind them? >> i don't mind. >> reporter: this applies to large commercial vehicles with more than nine seats on them. the zone is north of fell, east of divisadero, south of golden ga gate. neighbors are saying it's not the tourists they mind but the big buses

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so yeah, it's kind of unnerving now, because i can see all of the terminals emptying out and bussing people away. >> did you know there might have been an active shooter situation inside the airport? >> i did. because right before our flight was about to go off, security was running through the airport. >> people have a tendency to see things and then see them later on. when you say security, are you talking about tsa -- >> no, it was l.a. police. >> guns drawn? >> yes. l.a. police. >> what were they saying? >> nothing. they were just running full speed. >> were they running toward a gate or an exit. >> they were running toward an exit. it happened i believe in a different terminal from where i'm at. >> so you think they might have been trying to get to where things were happening? >> yes. because i didn't see anybody run before. so i was guessing, probably responding. >> and i always have to ask this question, you are okay, correct? >> yes. yes. everybody on our plane is okay. >> it's a national broadcast, i want to make sure your loved ones realize you are fine. >> absolutely. >> j