jeffrey lazarus had of the health systems research group at bustard honest a tooth for global health in new delhi and i just watch. is an intellectual property lawyer in robot as the abraham is director of the medical biotechnology laboratory medical and pharmacy school welcome to the program geoffrey one would think that patent wave was always going to be something people would be unanimous about why is this divide now i think this is more about politics than proper pandemic control. president biden has had a real p.r. coup showing solidarity around the world by offering to support it temporary waiver in the patent in the patent and we need to remember that madonna already back in october 2020 said that it would not enforce and control and no country has as big that so i think you know it's really more about the e.u. and the u.s. battling it out a little bit and it isn't out making a change in the short or medium term because it will take a while to increase production if we can even increase production in the countries that just to take advantage of the. rubbish why this is an extr