i learned this from buster benson. he's not a psychologist. he's a product guy. he worked at amazon and twitter. he's fascinated by arts and why we do it. why are we yelling the art happ here. >> this is an interesting idea that arguments that work are beneficial. conflicts can be beneficial to someone at work because it generates new ideas and bring people closer together. >> if you think about it, conflicts and disgreagreements how we get work done. disagreement is the tools we use to be productive, it happens to also have some side effects interactions. >> is that easy to convince corporations to do? hr would say no, everybody calm down. let's not argue. let's find a compromise and etc. hold on, this surrounded by yes man and yes woman is beneficial? >> yes. we want to bring our creativity and know how to the job, right? that often means allowing ourselves to explore the unknown and ask questions and have differences and otherwise, it may also delegate to someone else. you are really interested in this topic. you worked twitter and slack and whatnot. your hobb