new homes built since 2001 or so, the average income of black south africans has risen significantly but the discrepancy between black and white south africans is growing every month. >> if any one group has benefitted, you say white south africans. they are better off now than the end of the apartheid because democracy and free enterprise helps those who have a level means, basic means of opportunity already where the black masses, you know, those opportunities have not really come. for a small black elite, the opportunities are extraordinary and rich and their children are educated and speak with an accent that no black person had when i was in south africa because it's an accent of the educated. for the black masses, that hasn't happened. >> in the reporting we focus on the south african culture, the exact opposite of mandela's legacy and in the local politics, they are talking about it. how do you think we'll see this play out? will it be in national or local elections, or do you think it will be unscripted? >> national and local elections and not in the next round of elections a year or so away but after that when mandela

urgent as the years have passed on and a new generation of south africans has come to the fall but certainly there are pockets of particularly white south africans who are today afraid now i visited the community of cain fun tain which is a white on cave they you find only off the conason all these are white south africans who can trace the roots back to european cities who came in the sixteen hundreds you need special permission to enter the area there are security guards everywhere there are statues paying tribute to the founders of a party which was south africa's legal system of discrimination between blacks and whites people there justified the existence of such enclaves as merely a way of preserving their history their culture their language they argue against any kind of claims of racism we feel strongly about our identity and we want to protect that and preserve it this together with the fear that some white of economists feel has caused some to put in place contingency plans now there's a group called the state land as they estimate that the figures are around eighty to one hundred thousand people and they are all linked

south africa and to end apartheid. we are not as white americans used to looking to an african nationful we are exceptional. to any other nation as an example, but south africa has done a lot of things right. it is an example for the globe for how to move forward towards a multiracial democracy and do it with a lot of passion. he was a revolutionary. i don't want to sugar coat that. he believed in a real transformation and it was done peacefully. beautifully. >> if you are still with us, charlene, i would like to get your reaction to president obama's statement a moment ago. >> i thought it was pretty much what i expected. i read about and knew about the role and the impact that mandela had on the young barack obama when he was a student. he was roently in south africa and unable to see former president mandela because he was so ill, but i thought what i expected him to say. he was a young man in his formative years and very much affected by nelson mandela and i was pleased to hear the tribute he paid and i'm hoping that the world will feel in much the same way even it they didn't have the experience that president obama of and would not be able

. >> as a white south african, you know that issues of race are a big issue in south africa. progress has been made, but it's an issue. as a white south african, what d he mean to you? >> as much as he meant to other south africans, i would hope to assume. the fact he was a strong person, liberating this country, making it a democratic country, so i had the ability to grow up. he meant the worth to me. >> how do you see south africa today. what is it like now? >> there's deep problems. in the race issue, there's deep problems, hopefully event like this, where we feel like we are united under one banner and we realise we are together, i hope we can all see that we come together and work together. >> and a lot of people will be meeting - most celebrating, some crying. why are people in a happy mood. >> in a happy mood. it's a celebration of his lix. a remembrance of his achievements and what he has done for us. i would say that's why people are jovial about the situation. what needs to be done to make sure that his legacy, his dream leads on. >> we need to remember his message, what he has taught us, valu

south africans. so yes, he transcended that on the one hand. but he also em braszed it on the other and just as he made out reaches to white south africans, he made reaches to the black african experience, the zulus, triable leaders and that made him such a giant, really. >> that evolution is fascinating to me, just in rereading his auto buy ogden fiographybiograp. he said he grew up with hatred towards white people and it should be towards racism in the system in place, not to white people in particular and it wasn't until later on he began to see that, kind of, there could be unity among indians in south africa and whites and others. >> and many of them joined the fight. as he grew up in kunu he was an aristacrat. his baring, everybody talks about how he stamped his authority wherever he went. even in prison, he was the authority. the prison guards came to respect him, and his college roommate i was going to say -- his prison roommate, has said that this is a man who showed by the force of his own dignity how you could force even the enemy, even the ad ver scary to respect you. that's what nelson mandela did. >> that's the incredible thing, 27

but also with george w. bush, jimmy carter, barack obama, it really crossed the political spectrum as it should be. >>> life after app parred tide improved for many south africans, but for one group of whitest has been a reversal of fortune. >> reporter: this feels a long way in every respect from the scenes of mourning and song following the death of nelson mandela. we're in a squatter camp filled mostly with white africanas. there are a few black people here, but they are mutually poor. the government has been promising them housing for years, but they are at the very end of the long list. >> this woman lost everything when the apartheid civil service became mostly black. >> we live in a squatter camp and nobody worries about us. we don't get help from the government at all, and we just have to look after ourselves. >> reporter: just meters away, black families picnic under the trees. they are the new middle class in a town build by the africans when gold was discovered here, then fought over and lost to the british, and the british used the park as a bore concentration camp. today in what is still commonly referred to as the new south africa, this form of leisure, camping, and caravan p

white exclusivity. but putting on the jersey and celebrating their triumph, mandela delivered a clear is only onehere south africa and it is shared by all its people. for white south africans, it was a seminal moment. rugbyrs later, another international, and supporters in a cape town bar sing the national anthem. in one of the 11 official languages of south africa. most of the team is still white, and most of its supporters, too. but things are changing. that is the number one priority. coach, no one would have -- a black coach, no one would have thought there would have been a black coach, but there is one today. africa is pinning its hopes on a new generation that has never experienced apartheid. today's schools are the seed beds of future equal opportunity for all. the reality is more complicated. depending on the area, the yougraphics of the area, have to resolve to come to the school, to live in the area. >> that means integration for the new rich in upmarket areas like this one. but there is segregation for the majority who are still poor. a nelson mandela posturing of nonracial south africa is ever to come true, it is colorblind isool life this one in -- it colorbl

when you talk to people, quietly amongst themselves - white, black, people of mixed race. yes, they are south africans, but when you go to the nitty-gritty, the whites amass wealth, whites are still in charge - things have not changed. and the whites have concerns about black people. they are concerned that blacks will rise up and take over land. there's issues playing out that need to be addressed. the key thing is can today's leaders move the country forward. it's a concern. i think the world, the country moved on from let's forgive each other for the past mistakes, but how can it move on economically as a country. so everyone benefits, what is happening now is that is what is happening. the rich are getting richer, and the poor black majority are getting poorer, angry and frustrated. every second day there's a trike. they want water, electricity, basic things that most of the world enjoys. they can't understand why africa's richest economy cannot provide those things. there's anger. the president government, jacob zuma, his administration, they have a lot of work to do. 10 days, two weeks. people are ce

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south africa emblazed in the sky. his ultimate legacy, not symbols, but the intangible love found in the ordinary south africans, black and whitethe people he led to freed i'm not. >> that was mike hanna reporting. we have live pictures in johannesburg, outside nelson mandela's home. it is early morning, 5:37. daylight has broken and this has been going on. this celebration of nelson mandela's life has been going on for hours and hours through the night, through the early morning, and we expect it to continue for many days. back in the united states president obama paid tribute to the life of nelson mandela, he ordered the flags at the white house to fly at half mast. let's hear more about the call to south african president jacob zuma. >> it was shortly after jacob zuma announced the passing of nelson mandela to south africa and the world that president obama took to the briefing room to talk about his reminiscenses and everything that nelson mandela meant to him. some time in the evening, you are right. the president placed a phone call to jacob zuma. he expressed condolences from himself and michelle obama. he called nelson

body of milk he was sworn in as of the nearly two decades ago it's the joint south africans being fit. white policeman but he adds that the sway of protests would continue to call forth without you. anyhow the big island. now that it would announce his plans for modernizing losses military in thailand set for the citizens. evidence here that would be like. let's see what's that you're on the opposite had to put the people to call. welcome to use updated on cctv news on the torch in beijing thank you for joining us. we stored in south africa where the coffin of nelson mandela has arrived at the tory is union building to allow all members of the to pay their last respects. mandela's body will lie in state for three days where he was inaugurated as president in nineteen ninety four. after the forest all race elections that ended decades of white minority apartheid rule in south africa. mandela's body will then be taken to pretoria is eastern cape on saturday for south africa's ruling nash african national congress will bid farewell to him and then finally on sunday the fuel service and internment ceremony wi

but as a humble servant. today the majority of south africans, black and white, recognize that apartheid has no future.has room for everyone. i have the idea of a democratic and free society. it is an idea for which i hope to live to see. if it need be it is an ideal for which i am prepared to die. our people demanding democracy. our country which continues to plead and suffer pains needs democracy. let us stretch out our hand and to say to them we are all south africans. we have had a good fight, but now this is the time to heal the old wounds and to build a new south africa. we have never doubted in our minds our country. i am the product of africa and it is time for a rebirth that can now be realized. so that all our children may play in the sun. >> and we are so glad you were with us tonight. abcnews.com will have complete coverage of nelson mandela's life and legacy all night long and all the reaction from around the world as well. join us for "nightline" later with a special edition, full coverage tomorrow on "good morning america" and a special "20/20" tomorrow night at 10:00 p.m. we will see yo

africans prior want the franchise on the basis of one man, one vote. they want political independence. >> reporter: but in the 1950s and '60s the realities of white domination in south africa made that dream unattainable. the african national congress formed an armed resistance to the apartheid system. >> there are many people who fear that it is useless and futile for us to continue talking peace and nonviolence. >> reporter: mandela was arrested charged with tree son and sentenced to life in piz -- treason and sentenced to life in prison. calls for his release echoed around the world. >> the government has taken a firm decision to release mr. mandela. >> reporter: finally after 27 years in prison at age 71 he was free. in the years following his release mandela went on to win a nobel peace prize and was elected south africa's first black president. [ cheering and applause ] >> reporter: served as president until 1999 when he announcement his retirement. >> don't call me. i'll call you. >> reporter: despite health problems his retirement years were busy as he worked on behalf of charities and campaigned tirelessly to bring the world cup soccer tournament to his bel

but there's one thing about nelson mandela i think is very important for all of us to remember. when you read his autobiography, he never saw himself as lesser than white south africans was able to treat everyone with a level of decorum and respect but expected it back. he never saw himself -- i think particularly in america, so much of the american civil rights movement was reminding african-americans and still is, reminding young children of color, you are equal, you do deserve the exact same things. i think that made a huge difference. >> i think part of that was if you understand he was born in royalty. he was born to a certain manner. his self-concept, he that naturally and he never lost it. because he didn't have that insecurity, he didn't need all that to become a leader. his vanity never outran his sanity. >> talking about the legacy of nelson mandela, we're talking about how those qualities of grace, dignity, humility have been inherited or visited on later generations. i want to play an excerpt from your interview with the president last night where he himself takes a remarkably humble posture as far as being commander in chief, president of the united stat

south africa has moved on a long way since apartheid. many of those racial divides have been closed, but there is also a big problem with poverty. less than 1% of white south africansbut that number for black south africans, nearly half of black south africans so that divide is still there. many people i've spoken to through this week expressing disappointment that the current anc government hasn't done more to bring those people up. but certainly, the predominant feeling this week is one of mourning and of celebration of this great man, nelson mandela, and certainly, people will be looking forward to the next several days of commemoration in pretoria and at his hometown later this week. >> i was expecting that stadium to be packed, jam-packed. i know the weather was bad, it was raining, but there were a lot of empty seats there. was it simply because of the weather? >> reporter: i think it was because of the weather and maybe because people were worried about how difficult it would be to get to that stadium as well. mostly a logistical issue. they also had other viewing places across the country but also it might be that this has been several days in the making. t

but his resolve was unbroken. >> today, the majority of south africans, black and white, recognize that apartheid has no future.ter declerk, to move toward free elections and the end of apartheid. he and declerk were jointly awarded the nobel peace prize in 1993, and then the following year, this. the world again looked on in wonder and joy as millions of black south africans lined up to vote for the first time. nelson mandela was elected president in a landslide. >> so help me god. >> reporter: a few months later at his inauguration, attended by scores of world leaders, he declared a new era for his beloved country. >> never again shall it be that this beautiful land will again have the oppression of one by another. >> reporter: mandela served only one five-year term, handing the reins to his vice president. the years had taken their toll. mandela and his wife winnie divorced in 1996 after a four-year separation. after leaving office, mandela took on the role of elder world statesman, fighting injustice not only in south africa but also in the rest of the world. he married his third wife and long-time companio

white minorities policy of apartheid. at first, he was inspired by gandhi's approach of nonviolent resistance. but as white south africa became more aggressive, so did he. as the head of the armed wing of the africanl congress, he led violent sabotage attacks and was arrested and tried in 1962. he would spend 27 years in jail. but he was never forgotten. eventually, international and internal pressure led the president to announce apartheid would be dismantled and mandela would walk free. rather than seek richard duchenne, he reached out to his former oppressors and tried to heal a divided nation. the president shared the nobel peace prize. >> we want them to feel safe. we appreciate the contribution they have made. >> he voted for the first time in 1994 with millions of his fellow south africans. he became a statesman, an international icon. for south africa, he was the symbol of a country that he wanted to be. despite struggles with poverty, racism, and aids. mandelawill remember celebrating south africa's place on the world stage as it hosted the 2010 soccer world cup. a simple tribute, his place in south africa's heart. thank you for our dignity. >> it is time for the bwest byte , one number t

>> i think life for a lot of black south africans is difficult but it's also good for some south africanafricans. it's not simply a black and whiteful black midd middle class. there's unacceptly a number of people living in town with no access to electricity and sanitati sanitation. for the young people in south africa they say this man, say he fought and liberated us. how much is that materially improved our lives? >> did you get a sense of, i don't know, an erosion of the dream? >> the people he passed on the mantle have failed to live up to it. we want to go back to the pictures in south africa right now. moving to the stage now to speak. a very, very dear friend of nelson mandela who will be making remarks today. he's making his way up to the stage where he will reflect on a long, long friendship with nelson mandela. as we have said so many people gathered under that marquee to pay tribute to nelson mandela. he was a man with great friendships. >> inkridable fete of logistic ts to get this set up in this time frame in such a remote area and an incredible list of people who are there to mark the burial of nelson mandela. let's

. >> well, the union buildings at the seat of the south african government but importantly for decades it was the very bastion of white power. this building behind me was a symbol of the white apartheid regime that completely ruled the country from a fist of steel from the time it came to power in 1948. in 1994, that was when nelson mandela was sworn in as the country's first democratic president in the amphitheater of that building. an amphitheater that was now named after him, the nelson mandela amphitheater. so certainly, this particular building represents in a way the beginning of nelson mandela's struggle if not the target of it and now it represents the final moments in that journey that nelson mandela has made through his life. >> do south africans miss it, not only from sout south africat all over the world miss it, to where he will be entumed? >> verentumed -- tombed? >> each day at the end of the day his coffin will be transported back to the military air base where it's being kept overnight. tomorrow morning the procession will once again make its way through the streets of pretoria, and will be brought he

but emotionally it's not easy. it will take awhile to get over this. >> reporter: in reflection, many coming here to his statue at the south african embassy. people black, white, man, woman, young, old. they only see the man and what he stood for. >> it's a symbolic gesture that he should not be behind the fence. >> you know the barb wire, and they repressed him, oppression, imprisonment. >> reporter: while he is gone, his stories of sacrifice and imprisonment live. my dad said he invited his prosecutor to lunch at the jail, just a story of his supreme kindness. >> the fact he sat with people on the opposite side of the fence who imprisoned him, tortured him, and killed his people, and we can't talk across the aisle here? that's sad, isn't it? for me, he really is a hero. >> reporter: jan smart recalls what the global force for peace did for americans. >> i worked in the em back i did for many years, and i saw how much it meant to the americans and how much he inspired people just by sticking to his principles. >> reporter: but in south africa, he was even more than a principle man. >> a grandfather, a father, the conscious of the nation. >> reporter: and to

for talking to the whites for reconciling with white south africans. buthey were wrong and i was right. because you see today we have peace. and in that little moment of lucidity, when he broke out of the fog into light, in a sense he shown a light on the sort of central achievement of his life. >> john, you were outside the prison gates the day mandala was released. what was it like that day? >> well it was a bit of a zoo, if you want the honest answer the mass ranks of the world's media were there in force, plus lots of south africans onlookers. the best thing about that day was actually the moment when he came out. the image, which anyone was alive at the time or had the age to watch tv or see the images in the newspapers that image of mandala coming out in a very stately, dignified fashion, suddenly flashed that fabulous sort of 1,000-volt smile and raised his fist into the air in triumph. it was an astonishing moment. and what was also fascinating is even though nels nelgs was a very famous name there had been a worldwide campaign for his release, no

. >> reporter: but he also urged restraint, even forgiveness telling blacks to, quote, throw their guns into the sea and reassuring anxious whites. >> whites are fellow south africansnd we want them to feel safe. >> reporter: mandela's courage and sacrifice was recognized around the world. in america he was welcomed as a hero. mandela and declerk were awarded the nobel peace prize in 1993. the following year in the first mixed race election in south africa's history, nelson mandela was elected president. >> today is a day like no other before it. >> reporter: we were the first to interview him on that first morning as president elect. mandela tempered south africa's joy when he said healing his country would take time. >> it cannot be done overnight. it is going to take a year, two years, even as much as five years. >> reporter: from enemy of the state to head of state, nelson mandela's walk to freedom became journey shared by his entire nation. >> i have never been so excited and hopeful in my life in south africa as i am now. >> reporter: years later, nelson mandela paid a return visit to his former prison cell. this time accompanied by president bill clinton who

. >> reporter: but he also urged restraint, even forgiveness, telling blacks to, quote, throw their guns into the sea and reassuring anxious whites. >> whites are fellow south africansnd we want them to feel safe. >> reporter: mandela's courage and sacrifice were recognized around the world. in america, he was welcomed as a hero. mandela was awarded the peace prize in 1993. the following year, nelson mandela was elected president. >> today is a day like no other before it. >> reporter: we were the first to interview him on that first morning as president elect. mandela tempered south africa's joy when he said healing his country would it take time. >> it cannot be done overnight. it will take a year, two years, even as much as five years. >> reporter: from enemy of the state to head of state, nelson mandela's walk to freedom became a journey shared by his entire nation. >> i have never been so excited and hopeful in my life in south africa as i am now. >> reporter: years later, nelson mandela paid a return visit to his former prison cell, this time accompanied by president bill clen ton w bill clip top who later presented him with the congressional gold medal. mande

south africa first all race election. >> i have fought against white domination. i have fought very firmly against the nation where all south africans are equal. >> nelson mandela served one five year term butained perhaps the most influential figure in south african politics. loved for what he went through the dignity he displayed and the change he brought about. for him mandela gave all of the credit to his fellow citizens. >> it is you the people. >> now a nation says a final farewell to the man who perhaps more than any other public figure of the past 50 years defines that word hero. >> jonathan hunt reporting for us. coming up at 5:30 we are live with reaction to nelson mande mandela's death from all around the world. >>> another fox news alert this morning. an amber alert and frantic search for a 14-year-old girl who was kidnapped in washington state. eliz was last seen on wednesday. police believe she was taken against her will by this man 19-year-old eduardo flores rose less. the two had been dating. it shows romaro getting in his car after school. she p didn't go willingly and they believe she is in danger. the pair could be headed to mexico. it could take weeks before they know wh

having mandela give them their freedom, but then they say political freedom does not equal economic opportunity. on average a white south africanill make six times what a black south african will make. so clearly today, was a day to give thanks to a man that sacrificed so much. they didn't think it would still be this hard this many days later. >> what are the issues that people are articulating to you? clearly there are inequalities. there's probably an education gap. so are they disappointed that they feel they would be much further along nearly 20 years of anc rule, than they are right now? >> it is the enemy of high hopes. i think the success in stopping apartheid let these people believe that their lives would get better very quickly. we are talking about beck kades and decades. so we have to be a little realistic in how quickly their economics, their prospects their hopes will improve. but that said, those hopes were very high, and they are seeing whites still dominate the economic situation here, and they are saying look, where is our economic freedom, we understand that mandela sacrifice sod much for our political freed

with not just the forgiveness he gave, that he had this generosity of spirit towards all white south africans butpecifically to the people who had done him so much harm. he came out an incredible leadership savvy politician. the day he walked out of prison in 1990 and we didn't know what was going to happen to south africa. there were crowds who were giddy with joy in cape town as he came out and gave his first speech. elm were very nervous. there was a strong police presence. we didn't know if the country would disintegrate into violence and rioting. mandela came out and managed this very complicated political transition, corralling the whites, corralling black south africans, dealing with the international community and he was a tough minded savvy pol. to have managed to sustain that and learn that and grow that quality in himself during that time in isolation was really extraordinary. >> nelson mandela had a royal birth as the son of a tribal chief but quickly gave up that life to throw off minority apartheid ruling in south africa. let's go now to a report of the world's most famous political

else was in south africa eu yet the majority of black south africans who were old friends i mean argue whites so they aware there were some differences but there were some similarities in terms of segregation are and and and so all of those of the areas that had to be broken now. so while they are some similarities. the b two different types of movements ultimately getting rid of apartheid. in in a sense certainly is this the same is getting or use some left their similarities to getting rid of racism up the room throughout our world. o'neill is the fact that both him and ella had so much empathy mimi was ready to understand and appreciate the fifth of what some africans had evened out a piece way when we look at what he did in the sport's the renamed he rants and champion the game of rugby which is the king. that was seen at the time of puberty as the game of the oppressor well that that is actually correct but that was a brilliant strategy as well and is a belief that out that mr mandela possess our understanding that we must find ways to deal as many bridges as possible. that's the only way to the nation will move forward we can jess

whites and one for blacks. now they have south african sign languages, but there are only six accredited interpreters for the south african sign language. you may be right that they couldn't find somebody. >> maybe he is one of them and maybe all of the people who are complaining speak white sign language. maybe it is a bunch of racist people. >> that's not how it works. >> if there are two kinds -- >> flow is one they are trying to standardize, but the people who know the language say that's not what he was doing. >> i like when we have five people together talking about something we don't understand and we come to some really, really meaningful conclusions. >> i am the closed captioning guy and i hate this show and i will stop closed captioning it right now. i will talk about my aunt betty. he will get fired, this guy. >> this is a great idea. you should do this wherever you go. just to get the closed captioning guy fired. he is an awful man. just say it. i am the cloptioned -- closed captioning guy. i am a white supremecist. >> they already fired the first guy. the second is getting fired now. >> oh my god. >>>