intrusion is going to occur, you need to do the forensics in order to start the evaluation of at bution, much less the criminal case. consequently it has to be distributed across the country, the expertise has to be distributed across the country. now, it takes more of a headquarters role because inevitably in most of those, whether it abbott net or what have you, victims in all 50 states, it may have started in romania or morocco or what have you. consequently the old way of allocating responsibility to the office -- generally the first u.s. attorney who happens to get the subpoena in to the grand jury doesn't work in this environment. so what we're working with in the bureau is putting together a distributed -- >> if you don't mind me interjecting, plus in those cases you really don't have a criminal case, you have a civil effort to shut it off which russ doc and core flood did bill yachbtly but it's hard to tee it off in the structure when there's no criminal case -- >> we look at it as national security -- i mean, this is one of the problems that you have in cyber. at the time of a