butorism may be a threat, it is one of many. we should keep it in perspective. thank you. [applause] wait, i'm supposed to introduce the next speaker. i'm such a narcissist. then we should all sit up here. judith miller is one of the speakers. she is a fellow here at the manhattan institute and writes about the balance between security and civil liberties. she won a pulitzer prize for her reporting at the "new york times" on terrorism. gary bernsen is an air force veteran. he has a long cia career. he lived several counterterrorism deployments, including our response to the east africa bombing and 9/11. he was commander of cia forces in eastern afghanistan. >> should we all sit down then? >> since we haven't heard from judy and gary, let's hear from them first. >> think you very much for coming here this morning. and bill thank pete for organizing this very timely on amportant conference crucial subject of interest to everybody in this room. youso want to thank all of who are serving or have served for your service. often,ot do that too even on a monday, tuesday in august.