but it is always important to remember that society should be , butto be integrated in people also have to want to become integrated. i have to say that sometimes the somalian society has shown itself a bit more difficult to integrate than some of the other societies. >> we will leave it there. thank you very much, indeed, for joining us. also with me, our security correspondent. frank, i suppose it is very important to make the point that this is one person out of a community of 25,000. >> the ratio is one in a thousand, in terms of those that the norwegian authorities know have gone to somali to join al- shabaab that they know about. so it is very important not to demonize the somali community, the majority of which, had nothing to do with terrorism or extremism at all. it is also important, i think, to the sting was between devout religiosity and extremism. just because somebody is devout and reads the koran does not make them extremist. in the case of this man, hassan abdi dhuhulow, he joined an extremist violent organization. they knew about him. they knew al-shabaab had a network