that's partly due to bv obamacare.ts fall poun if more than 30 hours. >> 8 million enrollees, a victory for the white house this week. the president saying point blank saying, this is it. up guys out there saying this is a bad idea, stop talking about it, because we've got the enrollees. some are young, more young people than they thought. those young people are not going to have a medical catastrophe that's going to throw them into bankruptcy and hold them back in their lives. maybe spent money, stephen, and maybe that will be good for the economy? >> i'm not a true believer in a lot of the statistics. >> i know you're not. >> let me explain why. first, we know about 5 million people lost their health insurance. so 8 million may have gained, but 5 million lost. we also know that a lot of these people who have signed up for obamacare sdu obamasubsidies in exchanges, haven't paid premiums, if not, you're not insured and a lot of those people already had insurance just shifting insurance. we don't know for sure yet wheth

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