incredible interviews with vice president biden, senator mcconnell, governor daniels, former senator byatt, former congressman lee hamilton. to ask about the senator. one thing really striking is the type to benefit tell me about it kluger. almost everyone used the word statesmen. that was interesting because the frequency by which people use that term, but also given how rarely it is used now in american politics. in an interview i try to probe and get a sense of what they actually meant by the term and a lot of them didn't have real precise definitions. but as i thought about their comments and bought him a young, i developed a working definition of what a statesman is. it has four or five elements and i want to just kind of briefly present and this maybe provides a bit of a context of talk about the senator's career. the first one is a sense of working in the national interest, the long-term national interest that goes beyond the next election. i think it also requires a willingness to take a political risk. as we all know not a lot of people are eager to do that. a third element is a w