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what can we learn about how thefrom theseection shaping but what can we learn about how thefrom these byonrom these by elections so far do you think am well, the mere fact that the candidate went on holiday , uh, you know, i went on holiday, uh, you know, i mean , says it all. mean, says it all. >> it says the conservatives have given up. they're not serious about the next general election. um, i have to say, regrettably, regrets deeply because for 55 years it was my party. but i have to say that i think they thoroughly deserve it . i mean, they have made an unholy mess with a huge majority. they've made a consistent mess . i majority. they've made a consistent mess. i mean, 1 or 2 things going wrong. everybody expects that no matter who the prime minister has been, they've made a complete mess of it. and today we hear we've got record lawful immigration. >> well no, indeed. well, >> yeah, well no, indeed. well, and thank very , very much and thank you very, very much for through . the noise for picking through. the noise on an incredibly chaotic by—election. here we are. now, thatis by—el

day-to-dayay talk they are workg on getting these bills done so i'm very optimistic that we can get them done byon march 1. as for t adding one thing or another will have two wait and see. the next step is for the house to pass a bill that the senate passed. [inaudible] >> look for how should pass our bill. it's been through the crucible of four months of negotiations and ups and downs. it passed the crucible on the o republican side of almost the majority of republicans rejecting the results of their punitive presidential candidat. they ought to stick with this bill. one even knows how this loan program would work. as donald trump says something doesn't mean republican should march in lockstep to do s it. [inaudible] you deal with him a lot. what's your personal thought and what about your practical political concerns that he might not be able to get reelected? >> on the first one i talked to president biden regularly. sometimes several times in a week, usually several times in a week. his mental acuity is great, it's fine. it's as good ass it's been over the years that i've been speaking to him