let's go to byron dorgan, who is the former senator of north dakota. he joins us tonight.ve you with us. what do you make of this legal ruling and the way the president has handled this to this point? >> ed, first of all, i support building the pipeline. we're building it from cushing down south to the gulf now, some of it is being built. i think all right already. make a decision on that. i know that there is great passion on both sides. and whatever he sides, one side or the other is going to be disappointed. but i hope the president decides to go ahead and build the pipeline. i'd sooner see that oil come south. you have to believe that the canadians aren't going to produce that you can have an impact by laying in front of that pipe. i don't believe that's the case. the canadians are going to produce their resources. >> what about the quality of the oil and the tar sands and how toxic it is as opposed to other refined oil in the world? >> i understand the point, but that oil is going to be produced. that's my point. and the oil can go west and then go to asia, or it can

senator byron dorgan, good to have you with us tonight. >> thanks, ed. >> we'll do it again. that's "the ed show." "politicsnation" starts right now. a reminder, he will be in nebraska tomorrow for more coverage on this pipeline story. rev, good evening. how you? >>> i'm good. and good to talk to you ed, and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, the retrial of michael dunn. today we learned the state plans to retry michael dunn on first-degree murder charges in may and back in jacksonville. in a new interview with wtev in jacksonville, prosecutor john guy speaks out on the mistrial, on everything from the verdict to his critics to if dunn can get a fair trial. but the headline, he is confident this battle is far from over. >> did michael dunn get away with murder? >> not yet. >> not yet. we heard from juror four yesterday who thinks dunn did get away with murder in the killing of 17-year-old jordan davis. but was there something the state could have done better? >> do you have run across your mind you wish you had done anything differently? >> always. there is always t

this picture started out in byron dorgan's office. he was walking to minot state campus where walter peele works. he saw it in the library and some place on campus and announced it should be hanging in the halls of his office, and congress and so byron brought it here. he inherited it. and i inherited it after camp's retirement. this is a wonderful painting done by a wonderful, hard-working north dakotan who, that has been hanging. and every day when i look at it, i think not only of walter and his values, i think of the values of the west and i think of camp and byron. >> what is this like coming to washington? >> frustrating. people get into how is the rarefied air? i did not come here to be a senator. i came here to do a job. it has been frustrating at times. the low point had to be when we went to the brink on the debt limit extension in october. i was shocked that people who should've known better were saying that it would not matter if we failed to meet our obligations. i think that changed the discussion, as you see today, bein

this picture started out in byron dorgan's office. he was walking to minot state campus where walter peele works. he sought in the library and some place on campus and announced it should be hanging in the halls of his office, and congress and so byron brought it here. camp inherited it. and i inherited it after camp's retirement. this is a wonderful painting done by a wonderful, hard-working north dakotan who, that has been hanging. and every day when i look at it, i think not only of walter and his values, i think of the values of the west and i think of camp and byron. >> what is this like coming to washington? >> frustrating. people get into how is the rarefied air? i did not come here to be a senator. i came here to do a job. it has been frustrating at times. the low point had to be when we went to the brink on the debt limit extension in october. i was shocked that people who should've known better were saying that it would not matter if we failed to meet our obligations. i think that changed the discussion, as you see today, be