>> i would have loved to have seen byron nelson. >> rose: because he was braceful? >> but as i understand it he just didn't miss shots hogan was an incredible player but as i understand it byron just had the physical genius and gift for hitting the ball solid and straight and he won 11 tournaments in a row. that level of golf i have to believe was the greatest ever attained so ken venturi who just passed away had the great fortune of playing golf wit byron nelson and ben hogan. >> rose: what did he say? >> well, he never liked ---to-pick one over the other but i think he thought for pure ball striking, just hitting a shot straight to the target no one was better than byron nelson. >> rose: great to see you. jaime diaz from "golf digest" and "golf world." a man who understands the game. we'll be right back. stay with us. >> rose: donald rumsfeld is here he is both the youngest and oldest person to have served as secretary of defense. he's also been a nay sli fighter pilot, a congressman and the c.e.o. of two "fortune" 500 companies. his new book is called "rumsfeld ru

honoring his personal hero, nelson mandela. byron pitts is in johannesburg. good morning. >> good morning. moving is right. we're outside nelson mandela's home. where the steady stream of the concerned and curious continues today. as for president obama, he and the first family visited robben island today, home of the infamous prison where mandela spent much of his 27 years behind bars. yesterday he met privately with members of mr. mandela's family and offered words of comfort. later, he held a meeting in soweto. and every public event in south africa, the president made the point that as a young man else inspired by nelson mandela to live his dreams. the president will overnight in cape town and tomorrow continues his tour of africa making a stop in the capital of tanzania. >> thanks, byron. >>> now to our exclusive interview with julian assange. he's standing by from his safe room at the equadorian embassy in london. first we have more on assange, and the assistance wiki leaks is providing to edward snowden. >> reporter: good morning. he fled from hong kong

byron i don't york, thank you. >> thank you, jon. jenna: turning overseas, former south african president nelson mandela is spending a fourth day hospitalizeda reoccurring lung infection. the 94-year-old remains in serious condition, although doctors say he is stable. family members arriving at his bedside as security has been increased at the hospital. greg talcott is live from london following this story. greg? >> reporter: hey, jenna, yeah. the latest word we are getting on the condition of nelson mandela is no change considering the unconfirmed reports we're getting on his health, maybe that is good news. this latest report comes from a statement out of the office of south african president jacob zuma in addition to saying the former south african leader remains in serious but stable position, zuma also says he met with the medical team handling mandela, he is satisfied with what they're doing, and this is important -- has no immediate plans to visit him in the short range at least. that could be good news too. there is some speculation that zuma was going to visit. we were seeing police and barricades set up outside of the pretoria hos