that's not just bytedance's choice. >> itinitely has effectsn tiktok if bytedance acts in the way you are assuming it will act. this is not to say the first amendment isn't involved because tiktok is going to suffer some pretty severe incidental effects. but they are incidental, i think? and leaves tiktok with the ability to do what every other actor in the united states can do which is go find the best available algorithm. >> i very much disagree that the effects are ntal because the way this law works is it is only triggered if somebody is engaging in speech based on their content. user generated content then sing out a single speaker and you have the concession for the government that one of the reasons they singled out that speaker -- >> i think what you are saying basically is all speaker-based restrictions gere strict scrutiny. i'm not sure we havev said anything like that. l's put aside your argument that this facially content based. seems to me your stronger argument was if the government is doing something specifically for the purpose of changing the contat people see, that h

that's that just bytedance choice. that a condition -- >> i realize it definitely has effects on tik if bytedance acts in the way your assumin will act. so this is not to say theirst amendment doesn't default because tiktok is going to suffer some pretty severe incidental effut they are incidental, aren't they? because the statute only says to this foreign company divest or else, and l tiktok with the literally to do whavery other actor in the united states can , which is go find theest available algorithm. >> i very muchree that the effects are incidental bec the way this law works is i is only triggered if somebody is ng in speech based on the content or user-generated content except for business, product and travel reviews. and then singles out a single r and you have the concession for the government that one of the reasons they singled out that speaker -- >>hat's a lot, juste you know, i think what you're basically sayhere's restrictions generates strict scrutiny to not sure we've ever said anything like that. let

we have a full offered front of bytedance. most importantly we have the clean american tech stack to move the user base over to and we do not need or want the chinese algorithm. the algorithm is something china is very beholden to and has said clearly they will not going to be selling it. we do not need it or want it. as a matter of fact we are the leading bidder right now. caroline: we are seeing share price reaction from rivals. from your reading of what is happening, doesn't look to be going in the way you like it to proceed? would you like to delay the proceedings to go forward with it? frank: we would like to buy u.s. tiktok. that is what we would like to see as the end result and move the user base to this clean american stack. it is no surprise the argument is going well for the government because this is a real national security issue, a strongly bipartisan piece of legislation passed by congress and upheld by the appellate court. the conventional wisdom is the government's position will be upheld, the legislation will

do you think bytedance _ that tiktok sent out. do you think bytedance will- that tiktok sent out.nsider the us having a 50% stake? we don't mean the overall business across the world, we're just talking about the us operations, we assume. bytedance has been clear so far it does not intend to sell. it is unclear how it will respond to having a 50% stake in the us operations. but trump also did recently say the us wouldn't pay for its share. it's unlikely to me that china would agree to that kind of a deal. jasmine, thank you for your time. we should keep a very close eye on the new developments. but now let's turn our attention to the day ahead in washington dc. donald trump has promised a strong america first, tariff—led protectionist trade policy with low taxes, looser regulation and lower government spending. donald trump has promised a strong america first, tariff—led protectionist trade policy with low taxes, looser regulation and lower government spending. and he is expected to hit the ground running with a promise to sign a blitz of executive orders on his first day as presi

what could bytedance decide to do on the 19th? alex, they could decide we could not use it and the infrastructure might not be there to support it. >> tiktok is thinking about going dark. we heard references. we knew it would not go dark immediately. when apple, google and oracle stop hosting, we knew it would be a slow deterioration for people using it. we've heard reports tiktok may shut off sunday and users may see a pop-up that directs them to a website to talk about the ban. fascinating strategic move if that comes to pass. that would mobilize 170 million americans, half the country to be angry about this, protest it and demand action from trump to do something about it. mike: those protests didn't succeed in getting the ban staved off in march and april going through congress. stand a better chance this time with the incoming administration? alex: these kinds of appeals could have more luck this time. when tiktok mobilized its dedicated base to call congress when the law was introduced to prevent them from passing it, it sto

krishnamoorthi: after years of investigation of bytedance, we know that bytedance's applications aref them is tiktok. another is lemonade. lemonade would also be covered by this law. with regard to other social be applications that might be controlled by a foreign adversary, a future executive branch determination would be needed to take action under the law. i will leave that to the trump administration and other future administration's to decide. caroline: this becomes a potential game of whack-a-mole and there is the ongoing argument that get rid of tiktok or lemonade, but ultimately china is able to observe us through other websites and through the internet. what else do you think needs to occur? rep. krishnamoorthi: one thing that does not get covered is the data broker law that went into effect the same day this particular bytedance divestiture law went into effect and the data broker law prevents data that is harvested from other websites in the united states from being sold to entities controlled by foreign adversaries. implementation of that law will be crucial under the tru

what do bytedance, what have we heard from them? >> no response from them yet and i think that underscores another interesting element. it is unclear how much bytedance knows about these conversations taking place in beijing. and even if musk, if tiktok and bytedance and musk got together and thought about the possibility, beijing has a big say in this. there are a couple things we can think about. the chinese government holds a so-called golden share in a bytedance affiliate, the tiktok equivalent and china. bytedance would save the golden share only up lies to the company but the chinese government might say otherwise. a golden share gives beijing influence over the strategy. aside from that, china has export rules in place to prevent chinese companies from selling certain software algorithms. that is integral to tiktok. china will have to have a say in what happens next if that includes a development but that is not what china wants and not what bytedance wants to see. tom: we will see how it unfolds. an interesting twist in the

our reporter suranjana tewari is outside the head office of tiktok�*s owner bytedance in singapore.hank you forjoining me. 12 hours offline, how did it get pack online? katie, it is quite a turnaround. 140 million users in the united states. the app went offline on saturday evening and as back by sunday noon time. and that's because, apparently president trump said once he's in office, he'll work to restore the services for us users. now, it all start would a law passed —— started with a law passed by congress last year that sought to ban the app, unless the owners, the chinese owners, and the headquarters are here in singapore, of bytedance, unless the owners sold the us operations or faced a ban. the owners sold the us operations orfaced a ban. that law was due to take effect on sunday. now, there are lots of questions around trump's intervention, it's not clear whether an executive order can actually reverse the ban, or it can just buy some time for a deal to be reached. trump actually said the us government could take up to a 50% stake in a new entity involving tiktok. 0f a new

this is highly valuable to bytedance.here is no incentive for them other than to keep operating in the u.s. but to share any of that. as the lawyer himself said last week, i don't see how you can actually disentangle these. then tiktok, without the algorithm, just becomes any other social media platforms. caroline: sarah kreps, great to have your equities. thank you -- your expertise. thank you. the companies planning to cut about 5% of its lowest performers. the memories, "i've decided to raise the bar on performance management and move low performers faster." the memo mentioned intention to backfill these roles this year. all with an eye around ai for the company in the future. mike? mike: the white house rolls out new measures to bolster u.s. car manufacturing and ai development. details coming up next. this is bloomberg. ♪ ♪ for generations. ♪♪ we helped the lost generation find their way. the greatest be great. we watched boomers grow. [laughing] we are x, y and z. and this january, a new generation begins. generatio

bytedance, sell it by the 19th ofjanuary. the bytedance, sell it by the 19th of january.ther the law should be upheld. president—elect donald trump could find a way to save the platform, according to his incoming national security adviser. the bbc caught up with two users who are worried about the van. i two users who are worried about the van. ., �* ~' two users who are worried about the van. ., �* ~ . ., ., , the van. i don't think creators voices are _ the van. i don't think creators voices are being _ the van. i don't think creators voices are being heard, - the van. i don't think creators voices are being heard, i - the van. i don't think creators| voices are being heard, i think there are businesses that will be further affected by this, decisions are being made at such a high level that you feel left out and powerless, even it is something that is a lifeline for some people and i don't think that is being taken into consideration as much as you think it would be. it consideration as much as you think it would be.— think it would be. it is where i am today — think i

that's not just bytedances choice.. >> i realize it has effects on tiktok if bytedance acts in the way you are assuming it will acted. so, this is not to say they won'tvolve. they are incidental, aren't th. theer statue says to the foreign company and leave tiktok with the ability to do what ever other actor in the united states can do, go find the best availablebl algorithm. it's onl triggered. user generated content with travel reviews. it singles out a single speaker and have the concession for the govehe singled out the speaker. restriction generatin sict scrutiny. i'm not sure we everaid anything like that. let's put. aside your argument this is facially contempt based. it seems your strongerent or the one that interested me was argument look, ith government is doing something contemptpurpose of changing the that people see, that has to be subject to scrutiny. i don see that as effecting tiktok t as opposed to eecting bytedance. >> i very much see it as effecting tik they chose this algorithm because it reflects the mix of content. to alter that mix of content to it two pro chines

that's why bytedance will not sell tiktok to the u.s.se it doesn't want to open the door to this for other chinese companies across the world in other markets. >> give us your thoughts on where we go from here. it seems the tech companies and big tech is getting more and more involved in geo whether it is the comments from elon musk in politics or what jeff bezos did before the election that united states. this week, meta changing their third-party factor rules. where do we go from here? >> the u.s./china relationship seems to have no floor. the floor keeps going lower and lower. this is a relationship in free fall. if tiktok is banned, it will call another move for the relations. it shows a tech war beginning. this is no longer about 5g or chips. this is expanding into things like playing with the weights in a.i. system and wiring of a.i. with the biden administration or controlling the number of a.i. chips that can be exported to certain markets around the world. this is becoming a new kind of tech war and the end result is the global

of course, bytedance has been completely unwilling to do so.at guest made great points about why would they even want to go along with something like this, given that they have significant business in other countries? i think there's a different political calculation right now, especially after the election, when you saw even trump benefiting from that young vote. the young men especially that, of course, have been using the app as well. so it's not just democrats benefiting from tiktok and trying to get voters up to turn out to turn up at the polls and vote for their policies. it is also republicans that have seen benefits from that. the calculation, of course, has changed in the last couple of months, and i think a part of this in terms of democrats who have been appealing to the white house in the last couple of days to try and do something about this, is so that trump does not preserve the app the democrats ultimately wanted to ban. >> ana, julie sirkin, thanks for your reporting. and lisa, i know you had something you wanted to add here. w

i mean, that is the latest that we've heard from bytedance., we know that president trump spoke to president xi of china this morning as well. and i asked him about that. and he did say he did confirm that the two talked. and he said they had a great talk about tiktok and a great talk about many other subjects. he didn't want to go into any further detail about that, but it is notable that he talked to president xi, because that's really the source of the concern here, that this is a chinese owned company, right? that owns tiktok. and as you saw from the supreme court opinion today, the concern is the national security implications that china is collecting data on american citizens and that it could be used to to manipulate americans. and so that is basically donald trump's reaction. so it remains to be seen what specifically he's going to do. but he is saying in his first reaction that it's ultimately up to me. but again, this ban goes into effect sunday. and the biden administration, the biden white house officials telling cnn that it's goin

the chinese parent company bytedance has until the 19th of january.the inauguration, to sell the app or cease operations. the us government claims tiktok poses a �*grave threat�* to national security due to its links with china, which bytedance has denied. a ruling from the supreme court that could delay the ban is expected in the coming days. reports have emerged that chinese officials are considering the sale of the app to us multi—billionaire elon musk — which tiktok has called "pure fiction". alan rozenshteen, a former justice department attorney, gave us his take. this may be true, maybe a rumour, maybe some negotiating tactic but i think it shows finally with days before the band goes into effect, i think tiktok and bytedance anti— chinese officials are getting says about what happens if this goes into effect and if they do sell tiktok to elon musk, it would set of relationships with tiktok and bytedance and tiktok will be able to continue operating in the united states. it would raise a whole lot of other questions given elon musk has this clos

the ccp is not within the reach of us law, and neither is bytedance.tisan basis, acted the way they did because this is a unique national security threat. �* ., unique national security threat. ., ., threat. before i let you go, we know that _ threat. before i let you go, we know that 19 — threat. before i let you go, we know that 19 january _ threat. before i let you go, we know that 19 january is - threat. before i let you go, we know that 19 january is the - know that 19 january is the deadline, 20 january donald trump comes into office. how confident are you that the incoming trump administration will actually enforce this law if it does go into effect? i think they will. i have met with incoming trump administration officials including mike wallace who is my colleague and friend from congress, who will be the national security adviser, and they see this threat the same way we do, which is, they want tiktok to survive, but not under chinese control, not under chinese control, not under ccp control. so i am hopeful that even now, donald trump can en

bytedance does not want to sell.t have the authority on tuesday to say i'm going to postpone it for 90 days. but i suspect he will because as we discussed, there's really nobody to sue. it would be up to his own solicitor general, his own department of justice, perhaps even pam bondi, if she's confirmed quickly to actually bring an action. and there's and apple's not going to do it and bytedance is not going to do it and google's not going to do it. so donald trump will probably get away with it. but it actually just reflects kind of on his unfitness for office. >> if he ultimately makes this quick decision. >> great. fernand. in addition to the tiktok ceo, we are also going to see the three richest people in the world elon musk, jeff bezos and mark zuckerberg prominently seated in the gallery at the inauguration. perhaps one of them will get the final rose and be permitted to purchase tiktok separately, though in his farewell interview with lawrence o'donnell, president biden warned about the developing oligarchy in

our reporter suranjana tewari is outside the head office of tiktok�*s owner bytedance in singapore.resident trump said he will work with a solution to reinstate tick—tock was he takes office. he added please stay tuned. by around noon on sunday, tiktok was back with a p°p�*up sunday, tiktok was back with a pop—up saying as a result of president trump is make efforts, tiktok is back in the us. all of these was a result of a law that was passed in the us last year that looked to barnett tick—tock unless it sold —— ban tick—tock unless it sold —— ban tick—tock unless it sold its business to chinese owners. the ad is owned by bytedance, a chinese company and is headquartered here in singapore —— the app. there hasn't been any reaction from asia so far that we are waiting to hear about what president trump's plan might be. it is not clear whether he can even reverse that ban. he has said that he has granted tiktok a temporary reprieve or would do so through an executive order and that the us government might even take a stake in tiktok. of course, there is a lot of concerns in the us abo

is not a matter if it's win spirit bytedance that were not selling.here is a price for everything, what are you and kevin o'leary willing to do for bytedance. >> beat the key to buy u.s. tiktok without the algorithm. i think it is clear bytedance is not going to sell with algo algorithm. if they were to assume that every buyer would want the algorithm is not for sale and node deal can happen. we spent five years building in the on board the 70 million without the algorithm in any china ip. >> i'm dying to know how you and kevin o'leary mind melted your two very different people who made the call to him. >> kevin text me and say can we speak i want to talk to about tiktok and i called him and he recognized my 617 number kevin and i are two people that have a 617 number and we started to chat. he said i talked to all the bidders potential bidders i scan the landscape. if the sells you the buyer and wait for the head than anyone also you're the winner and i want to be a part of your bid and i said for sure, we're looking to include anybody who's of like

ownership. 0thers security and given bytedance's chinese ownership. harm free speech. let's check in and see how you are doing with new year's resolutions. are you still going to the gym every day as promised or kept away from junk food and alcohol? if you have not, you are not alone because today is known as quitters day. it is the second friday in january and research suggest around 80% of people have given up on their promise of new year, new me. i spoke to a professor at the chicago university school of business and she told me why people tend not to stick to their resolutions. happy new year and happy quitters day. hopefully you are not quitting quite yet. the psychology is basically the psychology of goal setting. people like to set goals and you know what? it is actually good for us. it is good to set goals even though we often need to reset them and go back to them and it is just one strategy. it is one strategy, but goal setting is an important thing to do. why do some people succeed and others not? let me say that in our sample of thousands

the law says it could continue to exist if bytedance were to sell it.ich the law, is there a buyer waiting in the wings? fix, law, is there a buyer waiting in the wings?— law, is there a buyer waiting inthewinus? �* , , , ., in the wings? a few buyers have made themselves _ in the wings? a few buyers have made themselves known - in the wings? a few buyers have made themselves known that i in the wings? a few buyers have | made themselves known that we have seen in the last couple of weeks. i think it is still really early to tell whether someone first of all will be able to come forward but the bigger question is whether the chinese government and whether bytedance would even be willing to sell and i think that is the biggest question out there right now is will they be willing to sell? and at this point they have indicated they would not. point they have indicated they would not-— would not. content creators would not. content creators would have _ would not. content creators would have their _ would not. content creators would have their follower i wou

so basically saying to bytedance, without our approval, it's worthless. >> what is likely that bytedanceld actually agree to that, though? i mean, that's a heck of a raw deal for them. >> yeah, it's going to seem it's going to seem like it's sort of a gun to their head a bit to go do it. but then the second part comes, which is, okay, so where's the algorithm written? who gets to see how that's done? and the president hasn't spoken to that. so he's told us about the deal. he said we'll make a lot of money from it. he hasn't addressed the central national security problem. >> let me let me just outline three quick points about this. the first is this started under president trump's first administration. let's not forget that that's where this ball began rolling. and you actually have a bill that passed the united states house. the united states senate was signed into law, and then unanimously solidified by our united states supreme court in executive order whenever it signed tomorrow or whenever cannot usurp that, cannot undo that. and so that's first. the second thing is, which is which

it's about the bytedance connections to china and it's being headquartered in beijing. the government because it ties to the chinese government and that china could use tiktok to harvest data on americans and use the act ii's -- the app to somehow so propaganda or sway public opinion in the u.s. the ownership question came up at the start and it was one of the very first that justice clarence thomas put to the lawyer representing tiktok, saying in essence are you conflating the ownership question and requirement being imposed by the government with the free speech issue you are trying to raise? are you trying to mix apples and oranges? other suggestions were that there could be other fish in the sea, users finding other platforms to take their speech. today we have seen shares of snap, snap chat, rising 9%, the most we have seen that stock jump since the end of october. so, there is a lot at stake here. vonnie: is there indication of how scotus is leaning right now? >> indications based on the questioning are that it will probably fall in the favor of the government, bu

the problem is that bytedance has had 270 days to consider a sale and nothing has happened.ffer is going to be taken seriously, or instead whether the company is going to keep playing this game of chicken to pressure lawmakers and president trump to keep the lights on. that speed to our technology correspondent who has been trying to find out for us what is going on. what has happened in the last hour to take the 3pp in the last hour to take the app off—line? i in the last hour to take the app off-line?— in the last hour to take the app off-line? i have been on tiktokfor— app off-line? i have been on tiktok for much _ app off-line? i have been on tiktok for much of _ app off-line? i have been on tiktok for much of the - app off-line? i have been on tiktok for much of the loss | app off-line? i have been on | tiktok for much of the loss of ours and just tiktok for much of the loss of ours andjust in tiktok for much of the loss of ours and just in the last two minutes really i have, as of the last few minutes i haven't been able to access the act. this is what i see on my phon

our reporter suranjana tewari is outside the head office of tiktok�*s owner bytedance in singapore.hank you forjoining me. tell me, how did it all happen, about a 12 hour ban and lots of to—ing and fro—ing, give us the details. katie, it is quite a turnaround. on saturday night, tiktok, owned by the chinese company bytedance and headquartered here in singapore, went dark and that's because a law that was passed by congress last year and had bipartisanly support kicked in to effect on sunday and tiktok�*s owners that they had no choice than to make the app go dark. come sunday noon in the us, the app was back and uses got a pop up, saying "as a result of president trump's efforts, tiktok is back in the us". as i mentioned, that law, but called for bytedance to sell its american business or face a ban, and that's over concerns that breakdanced concerns that brea kdanced shares concerns that breakdanced shares information with the chinese government. now, it is not clear how president—elect, what president—elect might do with the band, it's not whether he can reverse it or whether he c

bytedance's co-founder lives in beijing. china does collect data on u.s. citizens.od case, which is why congress was so strongly supportive of this bill, there is a good case that you cannot trust kino when it comes to this, despite tiktok's arguments. caitriona: the issue of china is one thing, but there is also the issue of free speech. if this ban goes ahead, what does that mean for future provisions of the first amendment and free speech and platforms used for that? >> i feel that for tiktok's lawyers, because they have a heavy lift to try to persuade all the courts they've come in front of, that the free speech rights of a chinese company resident in beijing are worth considering. one of the justices pointed out that free speech is part of association, and we have laws that say you cannot associate with known terrorists. that could be the president. so the free-speech argument has not gotten as much traction as tiktok might have hoped. caitriona: the way around this ban, according to lawmakers, is for bytedance to sell tiktok. there is no appetite to sell it, b

he doesn't want to authorize bytedance to sell it. you have the intelligence community caught in the middle, which is arguing that tiktok is a surveillance operation. bytedance was required to turn over data to the chinese government, and it gives the chinese a huge ability, if they so choose, to push american opinion on all sorts of issues in all sorts of directions that are pro-china. that is a hostile adversary, owning a major media outlet in the united states. the supreme court said, the band of that can go into place, but they don't want that to happen because of the political repercussions. >> so, it is a sticky wicket, as they say. >> many americans use tiktok, which is presumably white nobody necessarily wants to shut it down, and the preferable option would be to find a buyer. what has china offered anything on that front? the only plausible person mentioned is elon musk, according to reports, but it doesn't seem like they have a lot of willingness to sell it, so how does it stay in the u.s. without the sale? >> you have to l

. >> if bytedance divested the tiktok, we wouldn't be here, right?ce was willing to let you go and willing to let you take the source code with you, that would be fine, right? we would not be here. >> what this law does is it says that tiktok incorporated, if bytedance doesn't exercise a qualified divestiture, you have to go mute. you cannot speak at all -- >> no, i don't think it say that is. you're wrong about the statute being read as saying, tiktok, you have to go mute. because tiktok can continue to operate on its own algorithm, on its own terms as long as it's not associated with bytedance. >> reporter: the attorney representing tiktok's users is trying to make the case to the high court that banning tiktok would deny americans of their first amendment right to freedom of speech. >> the congress doesn't care about what's on tiktok. they don't care about the expression. that's shown by the remedy. they're not saying tiktok has to stop, they're saying the chinese have to stop controlling tiktok. >> it's very curious why you'd just single out tikt

i recognize that bytedance's ownership of tiktok poses a security risk. i do not want china to have significant influence over an important communications channel in the united states. and access to americans' data. but congress must appropriately balance those risks with the serious hardship imposed on tiktok's 170 million american users and the unintended consequences of a nationwide tiktok ban. with the impending tiktok ban, congress has gotten that balance wrong. and most importantly, the proponents of the ban have repeatedly argued that tiktok is, quote, brainwashing americans, but these claims are at best just speculation. at worst, they are disguised effort to target american speech. so don't take it from me. in an affidavit in the d.c. district of columbia circuit, a senior intelligence officer stated that the government has, quote, no information that china coerced bytedance to manipulate content of tiktok. that's coming from our own government. that alone should make us pause. this is in the d.c. circuit court. they're not lying to a circuit cou

do you think bytedance will consider the us having a 50% stake?overall business across the world — we're just talking about the us operations, we assume. right. bytedance has been clear so far that it does not intend to sell. it is unclear how it will respond to having a 50% stake in the us operations. but trump also did recently say that the us wouldn't pay for its share, and so it's unlikely to me that china would agree to that kind of a deal. interesting look at what is going on with tiktok. so much detail on our website on that story, as well. let's now turn our attention to the day ahead in washington dc. donald trump has promised a strong america—first, tariff—led protectionist trade policy with low taxes, looser regulation and lower government spending. and he is expected to hit the ground running with a promise to sign a blitz of executive orders on his first day as president, telling supporters he would move with "historic speed and strength" in the hours after taking the oath of office. so who are the people that will shape what some are

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mike: what have you heard back from bytedance in response to your offer? been engaging much? would donald trump be in position to get them to really get discussions going? frank: my hope is president trump can be a dealmaker here and help get this deal done by convincing bytedance to actually sell u.s. tiktok and not shut it down. those are the two choices here. bytedance has been pretty silent. they acknowledged receipt of our offer. i think frankly they are digesting everything. their hope originally was relief from the supreme court that they did not get, as you well know. now they are in a new reality, confronted with a shutdown or a sale. we believe a sale is the best way forward to keep the lid up and, as i say, without chinese technology why not sell? caroline: who have you been talking to? where is the excitement in davos ? frank: we had a house called future house on the promenade and the promenade was lined with different ai products being marketed. that was the theme of davos this year and our future house had a long line outside. caroline: of p

>> i know of at least one from kevin o'leary that's been delivered to bytedance. the point is what is a viable deal? >> exactly. >> the president needs the time with the department of justice to evaluate what viable means. we can't do that if the thing is completely dark. >> and you will be on the job starting at noon monday? >> honor of my life. thanks so much. >> mike waltz, thank you. >>> we will be back in a minute. stay with us. can be unpredictable. one day, your joints hurt. next, it's on your skin. i got cosentyx. feels good to move. feel less joint pain, swelling and tenderness, back pain, and clearer skin, and help stop further joint damage with cosentyx. don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx. before starting, get checked for tuberculosis. an increased risk of infections, and lowered ability to fight them may occur, like tuberculosis or other serious bacterial, fungal, or viral infections. some were fatal. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms like fevers, sweats, chills, muscle aches or cough, had a vaccine or plan to, or if inflammat

. >> i still hope bytedance get serious about a transaction. time will s tell. >> john: senators divided over the supreme court ruling to shut down tiktok for millions of americans for now. the social media app has been given an ultimatum divest from bytedance or go dark across the country. tiktok, tiktok. welcome back as "america reports" rolls into the second hour in. john roberts from washington. >> sandra: good to be with you on this friday. the biden administration will not take up tiktok's future. that means one of the very first things president-elect trump plate when he takes office monday. he reacted on truth social and said he will make a decision soon and to "stay tuned." >> john: the americans wait to see incoming administration will do, it could mean missing out on videos like this. >> knock it off! >> and scared! >> what the hell! >> i know, i know you are mad. >> you have to keep your eyes on the ball. [laughs] >> sandra: love to. shannon bream breaks down the ruling in just a moment coach about forest, fox business lydia hu. lyd

maria: the main way to avoid a ban is for bytedance to sell this app.iktok also has the option to walk away from bytedance, so they could find a different buyer. a lot of the justices actually said, why don't you just find a different algorithm? why don't you come up with your own algorithm? that is why bytedance is appealing, and tiktok itself, because of this powerful tool that makes tiktok what it is. they could simply find that technology or something similar to it somewhere else. it would be very difficult because what makes bytedance's out rhythm so powerful is that source code that is in china. but they could find different avenues, according to these justices yesterday. host: if you would like to hear the, listen to the audio of the our arguments from yesterday, you can find an online at c-span.org. -- you can find it online at c-span.org. we will go to our first caller for the second. ralph from michigan, line for democrats. good morning. caller: hello. i was worrying about the larger problem of disinformation on these internet social media sit

assets from its chinese parent company, bytedance. and so far, bytedance has been unwilling to engage with any of the buyers who have put their hands up for this platform. so the question will be whether trump can convince bytedance, convince china to change its mind and work out a deal to sell this platform to an american owner. >> yeah, that is the question, claire duffy. thank you very much for your reporting. let's talk more about this with former national security and intelligence official timothy edgar. timothy, thank you for your time this morning. so let's start with that, because i know you told my producer that there isn't really anything the the outgoing or incoming president can do to easily reverse this. but as you heard from claire duffy's reporting there, trump told nbc yesterday that he will most likely delay this ban. but how can he do that and implement this 90 day extension if there is no deal in in progress? and bytedance has up until now refused to sell off tiktok? >> well, the short answer is that he can't. >> th

maria: the main way to avoid a ban is for bytedance to sell this app.iktok also has the option to walk away from bytedance, so they could find a different buyer. a lot of the justices actually said, why don't you just find a different algorithm? why don't you come up with your own algorithm? that is why bytedance is appealing, and tiktok itself, because of this powerful tool that makes tiktok what it is. they could simply find that technology or something similar to it somewhere else. it would be very difficult because what makes bytedance's out rhythm so powerful is that source code that is in china. but they could find different avenues, according to these justices yesterday. host: if you would like to hear the, listen to the audio of the our arguments from yesterday, you can find an online at c-span.org. -- you can find it online at c-span.org. we will go to our first caller for the second. ralph from michigan, line for democrats. good morning. caller: hello. i was worrying about the larger problem of disinformation on these internet social media sit

but bytedance has said it doesn't want to sell tiktok. and so there's this looming question of what's going to happen sunday when this ban takes place. and between that time and when donald trump takes office monday officially, and what options are available to him? >> yeah, i'm curious what he's being advised as far as how much discretion he has. i don't think this law as it was passed and as president biden signed, it really gives the president elect, future president trump, a whole lot of flexibility in terms of being able to put the brakes on it once it goes into effect. there's a couple different options he has available. one, he could quickly see if he can put together a buyer group. and that is, again, if bytedance and tiktok are willing to sell it, they have the option to just shut down their own service. they don't actually have to be bought. even if a buying group was put together. the other potential option that president elect trump might be thinking through with his team is whether or not he issued an executive order that dir

host: the way around a potential ban is for bytedance to sell tiktok.hat do we know about any potential acquirers or people interested in buying the app? guest: that would be the easiest way for this to go away for tiktok. we do know some of the potential buyers. frank mccourt is a billionaire, the founder of project liberty. he has talked about his plans of coming up with a bit with kevin o'leary, mr. wonderful. they confirmed after the supreme court decision that they made their bid and they have a formal offer on the table. that being said, bytedance, all this time has said they have no intention to sell. and it is also -- chinese law prohibits the algorithm itself, the very thing that makes tiktok so popular. that would make it compelling for a buyer to be exported out of the country. it is not clear, even if tiktok is so, what version of u.s. tiktok can still exist. there has been no indication that -- public indication that that bid is being accepted by bytedance and that they would be willing to sell. if that was the case, there would only be one

i saving grace for bytedance, would you say?— saving grace for bytedance, would you say?ay it has been and _ would you say? i would say it has been and he _ would you say? i would say it has been and he also - would you say? i would say it has been and he also had i would you say? i would say it has been and he also had a i would you say? i would say it. has been and he also had a big supporter who is a major investor who also said, hang on a second. and we have seen already that is the way donald trump tends to work. if he has supporters with a lot of money who want to have some influence, they clearly seem to be able to have some degree of influence and i think that also was an impact. it suddenly influence the election, they know that so that would be another reason why they would consider extending any ban. i’m consider extending any ban. i'm sure we will— consider extending any ban. i'm sure we will talk about this again. thank you very much. 0utgoing us treasury secretary janet yellen has warned that the trump administration's plan to tax imports will raise costs fo

court is set to hear arguments on friday on an impending law that would force the chinese company bytedance, to sell social media platform tiktok to an american company, or be banned in the us. the bbc�*s north america technology correspondent has more on how this could unfold. congress passed that law in april on national security grounds. lawmakers expressed concerns that tiktok�*s chinese ownership, bytedance, means that the data of millions of americans could be compromised, and that they are also prone to manipulation by china's communist party. tiktok has consistently denied those allegations. they have expressed confidence that they will get the outcome that they seek from the supreme court. president—elect donald trump, meanwhile, has weighed in, despite once trying to ban the app himself. he has now filed a brief in this case asking the supreme court to temporarily block the law so that he can try to save it. tiktok has repeatedly denied any potential influence by the chinese communist party and has said that the law violates the first amendment free speech rights of its users. pro

bytedance selling tiktok to elon musk? >> oh, that's one one of the things i sort of said, oh, that would be an interesting thing that would happen here, because he could put it with, with, with x or twitter, whatever you want to call it. um, that's a possibility. there's a lot of interested parties here. the problem is if you sell it without the algorithm, is it tiktok? and of course the chinese do not want that to happen. and so you're buying kind of just a brand. and is it worth that, especially given all the competition? and will someone else just supplant that? it's a really it's a very dicey situation. but the reason tiktok is good is because of the algorithm, and that it gives you whatever you happen to, like, i don't know what you like on tiktok, but it gives you whatever you like. i happen to like asmr sand cutting, but you know, everybody's different. >> i have a tiktok account, but i don't. >> i use it on a burner phone. >> yeah, i have a burner phone. i don't trust the chinese government. >> um. >> me neither.

host: the way around a potential ban is for bytedance to sell tiktok.hat do we know about any potential acquirers or people interested in buying the app? guest: that would be the easiest way for this to go away for tiktok. we do know some of the potential buyers. frank mccourt is a billionaire, the founder of project liberty. he has talked about his plans of coming up with a bit with kevin o'leary, mr. wonderful. they confirmed after the supreme court decision that they made their bid and they have a formal offer on the table. that being said, bytedance, all this time has said they have no intention to sell. and it is also -- chinese law prohibits the algorithm itself, the very thing that makes tiktok so popular. that would make it compelling for a buyer to be exported out of the country. it is not clear, even if tiktok is so, what version of u.s. tiktok can still exist. there has been no indication that -- public indication that that bid is being accepted by bytedance and that they would be willing to sell. if that was the case, there would only be one

tiktok's parent company bytedance is explicitly named in the law.ment isn't prepared to block other apps like rednote. but they could be impacted because of chinese ownership. >> reporter: bytedance could sell tikiktok to an american owner. rumors were that elon musk was in the running. tiktok tells nbc news that's pure fiction. savannah sellers, nbc news. >>> still to come, most people would probably like to forget about their commute, but this goes a little too far, maybe. the stars of severance gather in grand central station. ce gathern grand central station. i got somebody for that! ♪♪ i got somebody for that. ♪♪ got somebody for that! you guys got somebody for peyronie's disease? ♪♪ there's hope for the estimated 1 in 10 men who may have peyronie's disease, or pd. a urology specialist who treats pd can help you create a plan— including nonsurgical options. find somebody today at gogetsomebody.com with cascade platinum plus, i have upped my dish game auntie, in that dishwasher? watch me platinum plus gives you the highest standard of clean, eve