caller: thank you, c-span as usual for trying to shed some knowledge and light on this issue. it would be great if you had this guest on more often. i think people are intellectually spinning their wheels on immigration without a lot of clarity. this is a huge part of this whole thing. of course people will be beating down the doors of the united states. they come in illegally and make money and send it out. last time i checked, the pew research website i thought most work going to china. we are focused on folks coming across the border. many of them are mexicans, i understand it is all over latin america, africa, every place. also, puerto rico is another border people don't talk about. i talked to people, i speak spanish. they tell me they are here because they can't work their farms because they need the chemicals to have a crop. climate change has just ruined their livelihood. there are so many problems and it is so complicated. we have to take it issue by issue. i also wanted to say something about the catholic church's role in this what is happening right now. how instrum

c-span. doing a great job as usual. the typical democratic -- pardon me. not democratic.eft leaning but religion does not affect me politically at all. you will hear a lot of calls that will come in like that and people on the right are going to say that we are atheist or nonbelievers or we are no good, but what right do i have to impose my beliefs on someone else? why would anybody want to impose their beliefs on me? whatever happened to live and let live? where does political action committees, political institutions, religious institutions get involved with politics to affect others in terms of their way of life as far as imposing your religious beliefs on others? absolutely insane. god bless you. keep your beliefs. go to church online with covid now but get a sense, pullback, live your life, and let others live their lives and don't push your religion on others. it is the only way to live in the only way we are going to be a unified country and a better country is for everybody to take a deep breath and stop pushing your religion onto others. god love you. host: out o