c. t s m c. produce us more than 90 percent off. there was at fonts semiconductors. if you need a micro chip to power your phone on missile defense system, you're going to get it from taiwan, even if you're china or the us. so taiwan has made us sofa, indispensable to both sides. so tell me more about the chip industry because i know the you with is pushing to become more independent from taiwan. china to has its eyes set on that chip, making industry is very lucrative and essential to so many different sectors. where would that leave tie one if both the us and china add to its biggest customers become more independent. well, china has attempted to develop its own sammy conductors, but they simply don't have the knowledge about the delicate process off chip mccain . meanwhile, making chips in the u. s. it's just too expensive. so i want to talk over shows, had said that there is 0 chance that the semiconductor industry could be hollowed out and re okay to, to, to us. so for now, taiwan is irreplaceable. you haven't joyce lee. thank you very much for filling us in wit

s m s m, i c, to raise it game. and then put pressure on t t s m c. so, you know, at the end of the day the, the markets are doing what they always do, which is that, you know, if you try to stop or obstruct a particular area of the market, eventually somebody how to fill that space in some way, matter, shape or form, and that's what we're beginning to see. and i think that this visit by policy is, is, is tied to that in some way, especially since we just had the, the big piece of legislation. go go through congress to, you know, increase the domestic spending on developing young do fab's here in the united states. so it's clear that you know, what is currently a single point of failure for the global economy is rapidly becoming a less important thing over the next couple of years. and so if we're ever going to, you know, turn this into a broader conflict that could stifle and slow trying to growth, then you know it, the time for that to happen is the timeframe for that happened is now it's within us over the next 18 months or so at the outside tommy,

she made a surprise visit to our met the ceo pie one semiconductor manufacturing company t s m c c, which is the largest contract for me, conductor manufacturing company in the world. and part of the reason is because the us is trying to manufacture its own semiconductors. so when she talks about trade, also there seems to be some, some kind of benefit for the u. s. and all of this, you know, semi conductors are used across the world. everyone needs them. and so, yes, i would say nothing really that knew about from what she said and nothing that's surprising, you know, including those pre built. she's talking about the things you could really on and on with that chip act which has to do with semiconductor manufacturing, mostly in the u. s. which may not necessarily be a particular bonus for taiwan w. thank you very much. goverlan international editor of taiwan sauce, or want to bring in 20 chang, talking to us from bangkok, tony to find us not correctly. there are military exercises going on at the moment, involving about 5000 indonesian u. s. and other troops in the region. how do you th