c.b. jeebies felt like you know he wanted to kind of get a music scene established there not necessarily punk but punk as what took root there but the only people that went to those early punk shows were the artists who were who live down there because the rent was cheap so they you know had these giant walks where they could you know do whatever they wanted to do and when the music scene saw it at the blood there the art scene immediately just went in and supported it so it was like a mutually supportive thing so the punk scene in new york really is much different than the punk scene say in london where it started out as you know where it was created as a political fashion movement it was like the the. kind of the union of the two you know was like. politics fashion we can you know bring the youth in through fashion and have this army of ill informed in my opinion kids who are dressed real great and into what attracts a lot of tension and so it's very different from the new york scene as we go to break court watchers don't forget to let us know what you think of the topics we've covered and