cozy for many here to discuss is someone actually work for one of the firms back in the day the c.e.o. of marc that was a lot to get to i want to get a lot of information out there's a baseline you know i have lived this stuff we've talked about it before what's your take on all of it ok so it is a very important issue because ninety eight percent of course of all the companies on the put c one hundred and also the s. and p. are of course audited by the big four so this is a critical issue the main issue of course is objectivity because the big four are working actually on the part of investors where they're actually retained by the very they actually are supposed to scrutinize so that's where the objectivity comes in to of course account and you mentioned sawbones oxley that did change things dramatically restricting order from an able to provide the same consulting services to those same clients they used to be able to like you say consulting that is a kinder gentler word for lobbying also they used to actually be able to lobby right they used to have to lobby yes as well but consulting in a