c.e.o. terry duffy if they know what they're doing c m a group it coined futures are now trading at a monthly rate of thirty thousand bitcoin equivalents with coinbase and siebel way behind eleventh i. and five thousand respectively and a third aspiring player in crypto currency is the intercontinental exchange owner of the new york stock exchange and ice futures u.s. that ice future europe is making some expected moves they will find themselves in the cryptocurrency related products market here soon here discuss kryptos of more as christiane of counterparty act krypto there has been this thank you for being here thank you so we know there's been this great competition between cboe and c m e but give us a little bit history of how are they both doing now we reported those volume numbers but what are they doing to try to get ahead of each others yes so c.b.o.t. and c.m.e. group both launch their big point futures derivatives markets last year in december at approximately the same time so their values have been quite some march and april this year when see any group started to pull ahead of the