when you were the c.i.a.m in the united states? >> well, absolutely. even though it wasn't the area of c.i.a. focus, i know the f.b.i. was very concerned about militia white supremacist groups, the one who try to blame foreign influences as well as government oversight for any of their problems. they are hyper nativists that are reacting to what they perceive as government intervention in their lives and it really is quite disturbing and i think the f.b.i. has their hands full in terms of dealing with them. >> stephen: the president of the united states will sometimes re- tweet these nativist organizations or praise them. is that itself a threat to our security? >> absolutely. what a president of the united states says matters and it resonates far and wide, and donald trump's failure to denounce these groups in no uncertain terms has just fueled their rise. unfortunately, you see similarities between what's happening here in this country and what happened in terms of the rise of nazism in germany in world war

he served as acting director of the c.i.a. during the george w.h administration, and as the agency's deputy director. he's now at johns hopkins university's school of advanced international studies. and larry diamond has written extensively about the decline of democracies and the rise of authoritarianism. he served under the george w. bush administration, and is now a senior fellow at stanford university's hoover institution. we welcome you both back to the newshour. john mclaughlin, let me start with you. what's your reaction to the letter that the director of national intelligence john ratcliff released earlier this week? >> well, nick, i have to say with great it really strikes me as a very blatant example of politicization of intelligence, that is using intelligence for political purposes. i can't think of another reason why the derrick would release declassify this particular information at this time, when, in fact, it has already been reviewed by the senate intelligence committee, republican chair, and set aside as not worth very much. it c

announcer: up next, a discussion c.i.a.nd of the the coronavirus, author chris recentlypoke about his released book "the spy masters" the c.i.a. director in the future. by the brookings institution, this is about an hour. >> hello, i'm director the intelligence of the project for institution and today we're having a program on covid-19, how well he intelligence community anticipates the worldwide pandemic which is now covering world.ire i'm very happy to say that my chris whipple, he is the author and published a a few years ago called most recently publish "spy masters" which is a book about how policy directors shape history for the future. it's the first book that looks modern directors of .entral intelligence they have s how interpreted their jobs. in the ve time later program to talk about all of and to purchase we'll be e book, [indiscernible]. we're going to focus today, at least initially on the pandemic. the intelligence community it ppears actually did a fairly good job of warning and pandemic was coming. should i

and c.i.a. about releasing these documents.atcliffe as the director of national intelligence putting out these documents but it is close to an election. it raises all kinds of alarm bells. if you look at the substance of it here you have the c.i.a. director briefing then president obama about this plan to tie and talk about the tie between russia and the trump campaign to somehow distract from the hillary clinton email case. it's in the notes at least that's what they are briefing and to listen to brennan and his supporters talk about it he was just mentioning it. it doesn't all add up. i think people want to get to the bottom of it after all this time. >> bill: mead -- meadows and the president and probably bill barr and ratcliffe think they caught the previous administration red-handed. the question is what took you so long? >> what's taking durham so long? the explanation of that he is running into more things. finding more things and he does not, as a professional prosecutor, deal with election timelines. so we wait and we

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and representative spanberger, a former c.i.a. officer has been labeled a terrorist. and how could we forget representative scalise and giffords, both being shot within the last number of years by deranged people? every one of you here knows the very lives of our colleagues are now at risk. so who is going to speak against it? has hate really become a partisan issue? is reality up for debate? i applaud my friend, my dear friend, represent representative riggleman, who has spoken very forcefully and immediately against qanon. i know others are following suit. for those who don't, for those who do not, what reason could you possibly have to remain silent? my friends, we are all americans. every single one of us. and americans are looking to us right now. to model principleled, thoughtful, decent leadership at this increasingly fragile time in our history. and history shall be our judge. i yield the remainder of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentlewoman from washington is recognized. ms. jayapal: mr. speaker, i n

announcer: up next, a discussion c.i.a.nd of the the coronavirus, author chris recentlypoke about his released book "the spy masters" the c.i.a. director in the future. by the brookings institution, this is about an hour. >> hello, i'm director the intelligence of the project for institution and today we're having a program on covid-19, how well he intelligence community anticipates the worldwide pandemic which is now covering world.ire i'm very happy to say that my chris whipple, he is the author and published a a few years ago called "gatepe

actually russian disinformation by his entire national security team: national security advisor o'brien, c.i.aor gina haspel, then-director of national intelligence joe maguire, white house counsel pat cipollone, attorney general bill barr. all told president trump not to trust what giuliani was telling him. this was first reported last night by the "washington post." >> woodruff: how did the president respond? >> schifrin: the former senior intelligence official tells me the president shrugged it off, and that whenever intelligence officials warned the president russia might be helping him, he would push back, because he thought that called into question his 2016 victory. a statement, the president always streets such briefings with utmost seriousness. the characterization of the meeting is not accurate. >> woodruff: let's switch to the "new york post" story. what's the context for a story about the bidens and ukraine in 2016? >> schifrin: so at the end of the obama administration, vice president biden and the international community were pushing ukraine to crack down on corruption. and part

apparently, the malt episode became legendary inside the c.i.a.n he ordered gitmo to start hot fudge-boarding. trump has been hostile to the u.s. intelligence community from day one. he rarely reads his presidential daily briefing, while biden was rarely seen without a copy of the briefing under his arm. that's why one d.h.s. official who worked under trump told reporters, "biden's demeanor in and of itself is like the healing balm we all need." (as biden) "it's not just balm, jack. i got salves, creams, ointments, liniments, unguents, poultices! you got a crick in your knee? doctor joe will hook you right up! i'm icy and i'm hot! come on!" tyintiger balm! we've got a great show for you tonight. my guests are joy reid and yahya yahya abdul-mateen, ii. ♪ ♪ >> announcer: "a late show" with stephen colbert, sponsored >> announcer: "a late show" with stephen colbert, sponsored by aveeno daily moisturizing lotion. boy weared by nature and science. for everyon descovy for prep has not been studied in people assigned female at birth. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> stephen: he

a former c.i.a. officer, i am aware of the importance of detecting threats before they harm americans and the threat of biological security, as well. we have to get ahead of them before they do significant damage and we have to work with partners so no matter where a threat arises, we can contain it. of responding to these threats are understaffed, it is hard to get ahead of the problem. members of thel panel. national security agencies have suffered from vacancies in the given howears and long federal hiring can take, likely for years. if limiting zika -- limited impedingited staffing your work? and a specific callout, do trouble recruiting staff with the specialized skills needed to reduce biological severity -- security threats and i open that up to the panelists? thank you, congresswoman. it is an age-old issue, employing the right staff. i would say from a cwnd perspective, we have a talented team. professional's from career civilians -- of professionals from career civilians to government contr

they broke the law, biden did and obama when the c.i.a.in there and told them about trump working hillary putting trump with the russians. this is the only reason this all came up, because they got caught being illegal. host: i'm going let you go there. paul summers, any final thoughts before we wrap up? guest: thank you very much. i appreciate being on this morning on c-span. we are pushing. we are trying. we're working hard on a nonpartisan basis to keep the united states supreme court in a composition of nine on a permanent basis, just like it has been for 151 years to prevent permanently court packing. thank you very much. host: the co-throigs preserve an independent u.s. supreme court, and our guest, paul summers, thanks for being with us. guest: thank you. host: we'll take you live next to the senate hearing room, the confirmation hearing, day one for amy coney barrett. judge amy coney barrett nominated to fill the seat of ruth bader ginsburg. our live coverage getting underway here on c-span. [captioning performed by national captio

they have said this has all the-- five former heads of the c.i.a., both parties, say what he's saying is a bunch of garbage. nobody believes it except him and his good friend, rudy giuliani. >> you mean the laptop is now another russia, russia, russia, hoax. >> that's exactly what-- that's exactly what-- >> this is where he's going. >thelap top is russia, russia, russia. you have to be kidding. here we go again with russia. >> welker: we're going to continue on the issue of race. you described the black lives movement as a symbol of hate. you said black professional athletes exercising their first amendment rights should be fired. what do you say to americans who say that kind of language from a president is contributing to a climate of hate and racial strife. >> the first time i ever heard of black lives matter, they were chanting, pigs in a blanket-- talking about police-- pig, pigs, pigs in a blanket. fry them like bacon. i said that was a horrible thing. and they were marching were mare street. and that was my first glimpse of black livers matser. i-- black lives matter. i thought

they have said this has all the-- five former heads of the c.i.a., both parties, say what he's saying is a bunch of garbage. nobody believes it except him and his good friend, rudy giuliani. >> you mean the laptop is now another russia, russia, russia, hoax. >> that's exactly what-- that's exactly what-- >> this is where he's going. >thelap top is russia, russia, russia. you have to be kidding. here we go again with russia. >> welker: we're going to continue on the issue of race. you described the black lives movement as a symbol of hate. you said black professional athletes exercising their first amendment rights should be fired. what do you say to americans who say that kind of language from a president is contributing to a climate of hate and racial strife. >> the first time i ever heard of black lives matter, they were chanting, pigs in a blanket-- talking about police-- pig, pigs, pigs in a blanket. fry them like bacon. i said that was a horrible thing. and they were marching down the street. and that was my first glimpse of black lives matter. i thought it was a terrible thing.

she is a former c.i.a.fficer and former special assistant for the director of national intelligence and points to serious concerns over radcliffe's decision last month to declassify letters fighting unverified russian intelligence that claim to hillary clinton approved a plan to "stir up scandal" against president trump during her 2016 residential campaign. she went on to say, recently classified intelligence that the community cannot cooperate as a part of a paired effort to undermine the past assessments of an analyst. press reports indicate you release the information despite concerns for your ship of both intelligence agencies and the national security agency. host: pedro echevarria with us on a busy news morning as we continue to take your phone calls. sarah has been waiting in north carolina, the line for those who support the biden-harris ticket. go ahead. caller: good morning. how are you doing? host: i'm doing well, sarah. caller: the reason why i am going to vote for biden and i support them is be

director christopher wray as well as c.i.a. director and mark esper.l against direct for wray has had a disappointing tenure leading f.b.i. at a time when the organization has been in crisis due to poll ittyization into the previous administration. he has ignored the pleas of rank and file agents and -- the official went further saying it is not personal, it is about insuring there will be public trust in the f.b.i. now, trace, fox news also spoke with the f.b.i. about this report and they say that director wray is just under seven years to go in his term and keeping his head down and focusing on the work of the f.b.i. what about joe biden mistaking president trump for george bush? >> this is interesting. gaffes aren't anything new to joe biden. he is off the campaign trail today. his campaign is down playing the gaffe from yesterday's virtual concert appearance where biden seems to confuse president trump with former president george w. bush before correcting himself. watch. >> four more years of george -- we'll find ourselves in a position where if t

the c.i.a. has concluded that vladimir putin is likely directly involved in russian efforts to promote disinformation so discord and carry out cyberattacks on the united states. i cite for this "the new york times," september it 2, -- 22, 2020. former director of national intelligence, dan coates, a former republican senator here from indiana, on two different occasions served his state twice in that capacity. dan coates wroi in an op-ed said, quote, if we fail to take every conceivable effort to ensure the integrity of our election, the winners will not be donald trump or joe biden, republicans or democrats, the own winners will be vladimir putin, xi jinping, and the leader of iran. despite clear evidence president trump continues to deny russian misconduct and he continues to contradict our intelligence community. mr. president, we should ask, what is the obligation of the senate? i spent four years, as many people have, urging the president from afar at least to actively demonstrate to us tha

and representative spanberger, a former c.i.a. officer has been labeled a terrorist. and how could we forget representative scalise and giffords, both being shot within the last number of years by deranged people? every one of you here knows the very lives of our colleagues are now at risk. so who is going to speak against it? has hate really become a partisan issue? is reality up for debate? i applaud my friend, my dear friend, represent representative riggleman, who has spoken very forcefully and immediately against qanon. i know others are following suit. for those who don't, for those who do not, what reason could you possibly have to remain silent? my friends, we are all americans. every single one of us. and americans are looking to us right now. to model principleled, thoughtful, decent leadership at this increasingly fragile time in our history. and history shall be our judge. i yield the remainder of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentlewoman from washington is recognized. ms. jayapal: mr. speaker, i n