c.l. franklin. we were doing gospel programs and services from major city to major city.about the apollo, i would go and see the artists there is -- gospel and secular. many were from detroit, the motown artists. i saw a lot of artists there is -- the four tops and the spinners who were my friends. of course i would go back and say hello to them. wow. the apollo was it. >> you have a lot of fond memories, i'm sure, performing there. what were the audiences like at the apollo? >> the audiences were absolutely great. but if they didn't like you, ooh, ooh. you were in for a bad time. but they were very, very nice to me. they were lovely to me. >> now, you were inducted into the apollo hall of fame. you have had every honor there is to have in music. what did being inducted into the hall of fame mean to you? >> everything. i ran up and down those steps a lot. for the apollo to give me anything, you know, i was up and down those steps all day. we would do four, sometimes five shows a day. when you would finish one show, somebody would call the half is in meaning it's a half an