i mean, c.s. lewis put it there's no worse tyranny than that, which is supposedly being undertaken for our own good. and that's exactly what they're trying to position this as they're talking about it in terms of inclusion. you know, there's one point one billion people in the world that have no id. so this is a means of bringing them into the system. inclusion. but we should remember when they speak about inclusion, that means that if you're not, you don't have a digital identity, you can't participate in life. and if you do have one and it doesn't have the right records, for example, the right vaccine status, et cetera, you won't be able to participate in various aspects of life as well. so this is this. they always use the euphemistic terms, inclusion and shared destiny and equity and all this and every one to almost the inverse of what they're saying now. so on this inclusion deal that you're talking about, gates tried to defend his actions in this arena back in 2020 watch. >> our foundation is abou

c.s. lewisi of man is 70 pages long and on tface it's about literature but it's really a restatement of the natural law tradition going back to the greeks and romans for the criticism of what a modern times we called moral relativism. and it's a really elegant statement. "lord of the rings" i have a which is you can tell how someone ended up by how much they read as a teenager. if they read "lord of the rings" they became traditional conservatives. >> "lord of the rings" and youe mention c.s. lewis the chronicles of narnia. why one and not the other? lewis and the toking folks. >> the tolkien book is more -- lewis worked in theological religious teaching. i'm more partial to lewises street science fiction book and the hardest tola get through. i think it stands up next to orwell's 1984 in the tolkien novels of the 20th century. >> c.s. lewis writing a lot about religion. on this network one of your heroes dan evans in 1994 you asked him in an interview how much religious beliefs were in his book

c.s. lewisit's just 70 pages long and on the surface about literature but it's a restatement of thehe traditions and of the criticism of what in modern times we call moral relativism. it's an elegant statement. i have a half joke referred to as libertarians and conservatives and you can tell how someone ended red if they read and became libertarians if they read lord of the rings they became conservatives. i read lord of the rings. >> also mentioned the c.s. lewis. why one and not the other is the debate. >> it's so much more epic. he worked in serious theological teachings. i am more partial to the space trilogy and the last one that hideous strength to get through i think itit stands up to one of the great anti-utopian models in the 20th century. >> writing a lot about religion. brian lamb on not this particular program but this network spoke to one of your heroes back in 1994 and asked him in an interview how much of his religious beliefs were in his books and writings. i don't quite know why

c.s. lewis praised the love of home of the place we grew in, of all places, fairly near these and fairly like them love of old acquaintances, familiar sights, sounds and smells, a love for the way life that we grew up in. and similarly, nigel biggar, ethicist at oxford. he argues that it is justifiable to feel affection and loyalty and gratitude towards a nation whose customs and institutions have induct us into created forms of human flourishing. and for me, i imagine, for most of us here, that nation is america and it has inducted us into patterns of life that us to flourishing. so none of critique that i'm going to give you tonight is critique of the existence of nations. it's not a critique of loving your country. it's not even a critique of what some people call our civil religion. i actually enjoy the pageantry. the serum monies that make up our national together. and i think those are another crucial way of expressing our gratitude towards our nation. none of that is nationalism. national