and c.s. lewis has made this point. we've covered c.s. lewis on the book club that that people get what they want in this life or the next. people tend to get what they want. and so so one of the objects, probably the most important object of education is not just to fill our head with a bunch of facts, but it is to cultivate our will and cultivate our desires so that we desire things that are edifying, that will lead lead us to have a flourishing life, rather than to to disregard our rational will and allow our our base passions and appetites to run away with us. so how do you define a great book of western civilization? well, i define it for the purposes of this show a little bit differently than i would define it if i were teaching a course at a university. i guess i am teaching a course at prager university. i'm a tenured professor there, but i'm talking about a four year kind of school where you spend a quarter million dollars instead of these five minute videos that you get for free. the the great book definition that you would get o

been talks on them thiweek in father newhouse said, u know, there are people who can stop reading c.s. lewisand those who can't. and the latter are eventually ought to be lewis scholars. and so in my own life, i know there's i'm ways got something by lewis, but th i'm just consistently impressed with his insights her there and everywhere there are some things i think heot wrong, which is a different talk, but most pa i think he's remarkable and i think that's because he lived through languages and books and in the different epochs and eras. he was able to read. you know, said heometimes found himself thinking in greek for those of you who know another languageyou to the point where, you know, when you if you were an amerin, you wake up his writing and you thinhe'll play, you know, you know french,f that's what comes. he's at he this was inhabit those things and then he also you know hlived a life at oxford thawas kind of the protestant version of a monastery. right. he wasn't married every night to nner, was with other scholars. he wassked by oxford to write the the the oxford universi press

so i think christians, we cannot be c.s. lewis was i think, a one off.but we can i think, follow his lead to some extent in doing and providing and working on good things that can win over our our who don't share our faith also has really good and get it pass those watchful dragons into the water, into the culture, particularly now that i think as my own view, politically speaking, the time at which the protestant, catholic, -- kind of consensus is done. and we can, we can. i'm not sure it was ever rig to take on that mantle in the first place, but we are going to be more i think a more of a of a minority, which gives us something of a freedom to just let loose and be ourselves and see what happens from it in the different spheres of law and literature and music and art and althose things. so that's sort of a convoluted answer. what you really, really need there is that. so that's a good book project there for someone to write. i think. i think we're yeah, i have a more broad question about the relationship between token and lewis was curious. it seems t

and c.s. lewis has made this point. we've covered c.s. lewis on the book club that that people get what they want in this life or the next people tend to get what they want. and so so one of the objects, probably the most important object of education is not just to fill head with a bunch of facts, but it is to our will and cultivate our desires so that we desire things that are edifying, that will lead, lead us to have a flourishing life rather than to to disregard our rational and allow our our base and appetites to run away with us. so how do you define a great book of western? well, i it for the purposes of this show, a little bit differently than i would define it if i were teaching a course at a university. i guess i am teaching a course at its prager university. i'm a tenured professor there, but i'm talking about a four year kind of school where you spend a quarter million dollars instead, these five minute videos that you get for free. the degree book definition that you would out of a university is probably something like you wou

this is, of course what c.s. lewis wrote about how wrote the narnia books he started with this picture, whatever it is, the opening of the story has to serve reason you he for writing the story next tell the story without shilly shallying about you know something really cool happens chapter three. but your writer doesn't know that unless you give reason to think at there will be something cool happening with the promise of more to come. you got to get them to turn the pages once toldhem that something cool is coming, you'd better deliver something cool but that's that's a different issue make it consequential have later events because they're motivated or shaped by earlier ones casual causal or consequential link is like theresa says i feel cable holding the narrative together or the string holding a rosary together. actually theresa is also a beta and made this rosary actually she's a catholic as it happens, as recycling characters, you know, when your people in later events preference to the characters, you've alread

c.s it's funny. and i just finished reading a book about cs lewis and tolkien. called and tolkien.alled the they this sort the inklings. they had this sort of society english of informal society of english professors the professors at oxford in the 1920s, exactly 100 years 1920s, almost exactly 100 years ago. they were the big dispute was whether any english literature after chaucer was worth studying with the i mean, whether it was a viable academic subject, you know, it was worth reading for enjoyment, but whether there sort of whether there was any sort of academic, know, grist to be academic, you know, grist to be properly chewed and demonstrate your skills. now she's studying engush your skills. now she's studying english and it's mainly about sex, gender and diverse city. you she's reading judith you know, she's reading judith butler. it's extraordinary how these things kind of just constantly and i'm saying constantly and i'm not saying that's plot. of that's a chinese plot. of course, but there is there is a degree to which all these sort of university courses just of unive

c.s it's funny. and i just finished reading a book about cs lewis and tolkien. called and tolkien.alled the they this sort the inklings. they had this sort of society english of informal society of english professors the professors at oxford in the 1920s, exactly 100 years 1920s, almost exactly 100 years ago. they were the big dispute was whether any english literature after chaucer was worth studying with the i mean, whether it was a viable academic subject, you know, it was worth reading for enjoyment, but whether there sort of whether there was any sort of academic, know, grist to be academic, you know, grist to be properly chewed and demonstrate your skills. now she's studying engush your skills. now she's studying english and it's mainly about sex, gender and diverse city. you she's reading judith you know, she's reading judith butler. it's extraordinary how these things kind of just constantly and i'm saying constantly and i'm not saying that's plot. of that's a chinese plot. of course, but there is there is a degree to which all these sort of university courses just of unive