— minister, cabinet secretary, for health to — minister, cabinet secretary, for health toas going to be announced in a couple are a few days' _ announced in a couple are a few days' time — announced in a couple are a few days' time and the situation could develop _ days' time and the situation could develop in — days' time and the situation could develop in terms of the epidemiology of the _ develop in terms of the epidemiology of the virus _ develop in terms of the epidemiology of the virus and they would be times when _ of the virus and they would be times when we _ of the virus and they would be times when we would entrust the former first minister to make that decision on delegated authority. it would be unusual, _ on delegated authority. it would be unusual, very rare, i think, on delegated authority. it would be unusual, very rare, ithink, for the former— unusual, very rare, ithink, for the former first — unusual, very rare, ithink, for the former first minister to make a decision— former first minister to make a decision without that delegated authority without info

both professor leitch and mr yousaf, the then cabinet — leitch and mr yousaf, the then cabinet secretary for healthision taken in connection of the possible cancellation of this event as a ntatter— cancellation of this event as a matter which will be governed by your instincts. that is how you made decisions _ your instincts. that is how you made decisions during the course of the pandemic, — decisions during the course of the pandemic, wasn't it? | decisions during the course of the pandemic, wasn't it?— decisions during the course of the pandemic, wasn't it? i think at the fanzone being _ pandemic, wasn't it? i think at the fanzone being cancelled, - pandemic, wasn't it? i think at the fanzone being cancelled, that - pandemic, wasn't it? i think at the fanzone being cancelled, that is l pandemic, wasn't it? i think at the | fanzone being cancelled, that is an accusation, based on this exchange, could have been made of me. but it was not cancelled. therefore, my instinct did not govern the decision. my instinct was that, the euros, delayed by a year, were happening. the fanzone made me nervous abo

in which, shortlyj after his appointment as the cabinet secretary for health and social care, he waseep dive meeting that was due to take place shortly thereafter and he said ok, i will be on the deep dive to which professor leach responded good. there was some key fits most shenanigans as always. she actually wants all of us. is this a private conversation that reversed the start would never come to light reflection of the accurate decision—making process at which the then first minister expected to take the decisions herself? if minister expected to take the decisions herself?— minister expected to take the decisions herself? if that had been the case then _ decisions herself? if that had been the case then i _ decisions herself? if that had been the case then i would _ decisions herself? if that had been the case then i would have - decisions herself? if that had been the case then i would have had - the case then i would have had enough — the case then i would have had enough a — the case then i would have had enough a lot more time on my hands than i _ enough a lot more time on

in fact, i think. this comes from the very day on which you were appointed as health secretary for cabinetat correct? that is correct. there is _ and health, is that correct? that is correct. there is some _ and health, is that correct? that is correct. there is some discussion | correct. there is some discussion here, on correct. there is some discussion here. on which — correct. there is some discussion here, on which we _ correct. there is some discussion here, on which we will— correct. there is some discussion here, on which we will get - correct. there is some discussion here, on which we will get into i correct. there is some discussion here, on which we will get into a | here, on which we will get into a bit more detail, or view arriving at your desk and approaching a newjob and immediately getting stuck into some of the difficult decisions you had to engage in, in particular the context is you are discussing figures that have arisen relating to concerns about the rise in cases in the glasgow area, and in particular, east renfrewshire, which seemed on your initial analysis to be in

humza _ making, it came back later on under humza yousaf's period as cabinet secretary — humza yousaf's period as cabinet secretary for healthof e—mails which shows... we are going to _ of e—mails which shows... we are going to page six, please. 50, the page _ going to page six, please. 50, the page at— going to page six, please. 50, the page at the — going to page six, please. 50, the page at the top indicates the position— page at the top indicates the position here, as of the 20th of july, _ position here, as of the 20th of july, the — position here, as of the 20th of july, the deputy first minister was requesting a call to discuss international travel, and there were a number— international travel, and there were a number of— international travel, and there were a number of people who were involved or not _ a number of people who were involved or not page _ a number of people who were involved or not. page six, please. —— involved— or not. page six, please. —— involved in— or not. page six, please. —— involved in that. previous page, please. sorry. we can see here _ previous page, please. sorry. we can see here that— pre

the cabinet secretary for health would be present tshs, the deputy first minister was be present, sometimesof meetings.— the lot of meetings. you were part ofthe the lot of meetings. you were part of the group? _ the lot of meetings. you were part of the group? yes. _ the lot of meetings. you were part of the group? yes. your _ the lot of meetings. you were part of the group? yes. your first i of the group? yes. your first statement. _ of the group? 133 your first statement, paragraph 6, you said, i would not say i advised on the adoption or not of specific npis. that was for the clinicians and officials, but i would have given views on the interpretation of the data and public mood and compliance of communications and where there was politics involved, such as securing the support of other parties or impacts on stake holders on that aspect. is it your position that you did not advise on the adoption or not of specific npis? i think when certain npis were on the table in that thought partner role, there would be perhaps conversations between myself and the first minister as to which one or

was creating even more pressing situation in the context is discussions amongst the then cabinet secretary for health for at least the next four weeks. he then says don't know if it will happen, this last minute and fm not multi—happy it's at this last stage would lead see if it strengthens a package of measures that are far too weak as things stand. to which professional each response, iwas things stand. to which professional each response, i was listening and they almost intervened to deflect for you, she was ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. and he replies and yes to the principal. her ranting at me isn't the problem. i can take it, it's whether the quantum of the stage help strengthen the package. feel free to defend me at a later stage. today's number is lower than expected. suspect some people are not testing given christmas is around the corner. to these messages not show the culture of the scottish cabinet was driven by nicola sturgeon's strong mindedness and when challenging hurt was seen as taking a bullet? filo was seen as taking a bullet? no because i think that particular morning — beca

and at the cabinet meeting, mr yousaf cabinet secretary for health and social care had suggested somewhatn about. is that correct? please correct me if i have got that wrong. i that correct? please correct me if i have got that wrong.— have got that wrong. i think it is broadly correct. _ have got that wrong. i think it is broadly correct. if _ have got that wrong. i think it is broadly correct. if i _ have got that wrong. i think it is broadly correct. if i may, - have got that wrong. i think it is broadly correct. ifi may, i- have got that wrong. i think it is broadly correct. ifi may, i can i have got that wrong. i think it is. broadly correct. ifi may, i can go broadly correct. if i may, i can go into it. broadly correct. ifi may, i can go into it. ~ :, :, broadly correct. ifi may, i can go into it. ~ . ., ., , broadly correct. ifi may, i can go into it. . . . ., , , into it. what i am really interested into it. what i am really interested in is the possibility _ into it. what i am really interested in is the possibility or _ into it. what i am really interested in is the possibility

if this administration would conceal elective surgery for a cabinet secretary, what might they be concealing about joe biden's health, the secretary of defense was hospitalized for four days without the president knowing, or public, and the president and no one at the white house noticed, and raises questions about joe biden's competence and whether he's in charge of the white house. we have to get answers what kind of procedure this was, why it was chosen to undergo now and why no one chose to inform the president of the united states or his senior aides, much less congress or the american people, the secretary of defense was hospitalized and unable to perform his duties. it's incumbent on the secretary to be more forthcoming. >> sandra: anything can happen at any moment of the day and that is the point and no one knew he was in the hospital, he's listed in good condition, moved out of the icu and hope for his full recovery. john kirby gave an update on the secretary today, audio only but said this, senator, listen. >> he's already doing all the functions he would normally do, he's doing it right now from the hospi

secretary was missing." it's not just republicans that were upset as outrage continues to grow. >> this demonstration would conceal a elective minor surgery for a cabinet secretary. what might they be concealing about joe biden's health an appropriate way -- >> suddenly, the secretary of defense, more than just a matter of not being there. sent over false information said he's working from home when he is not available at all. >> is a possible that his health or medical condition clouded his judgment at the time? that's could be the reason why he decided not to notify people as he should have. that said, it is clear that the system broke down. >> jeanine: dana, we all wish the defense secretary well and hope he is recuperating, but it wasn't just three days. he also underwent surgery december 22nd. according to a former chief of staff for the department of defense, the white house situation -- tracking real-time the whereabouts of all senior officials, including the cabinet secretaries. there is never a time where the secretary goes off the grid. it seems, given where we are in the world, that this guy should not be off the grid for more than ten seconds. >> right. >> dana: he is sixth in line to the presidency. this

this administration would conceal a mere elective minor surgery for a cabinet secretary, what might they be concealing about joe biden's healths: steve. >> that's a great point in relation to biden. in relation to the austin situation, it is a complete shambles and gets worse every day. it is humiliating for america oh, they had the flu so they couldn't do what needed to be done. it reminds me of that terrible projection of weakness. when austin was on a trip during the covid era and walks off a plane. we have all masked up with a plastic visor. what does that tell you about the strength of america? so that's just embarrassing. it is worse than embarrassing. it is serious. what this whole episode reveals is that the people who are supposed to be in charge, the people at the top who are politically accountable are not really in charge. they're irrelevant to the process. the bureaucrat, it doesn't matter what the secretary is there, the deputy. the minute -- he was incapacitated. >> harris: it does matter. your chief of staff had the flu. your second in command was on vacation in puerto rico and wasn't told that he had even had