anything from planting a street tree, [speaker not understood] on the sidewalk, all of those rely on a cad ex. essentially any permit that's issued. so, if we start requiring notice here at the commission for the tens of thousands of cad x's, just becomes such a deluge of information, everything gets buried in that. as i mentioned, if the noticing procedures are geared toward making advertising the project, that people generally care about and have an interest in. >> okay. that sounds fine as long as there is someplace where the public would be aware of these, even though there may be one of tens of thousands, at least, they would be aware if they are concerned about a street tree in their particular neighborhood happening, they should be able to check some kind of notification, either on the website or at the planning department to see what's going on. i think our outreach might have to be more to just make the public aware of where they can go to find these if they are interested in it. so, that might be good. a couple other things that came up. there was a question about whether changes in

it's dealing with cad ex's and negative declarations. fundamentally it's created a process for those documents where one does not exist. i will agree the website of the planning department is not user friendly and that needs to change. regardless of whether or not we're talking about c-e-q-a form, that does need to change. you have to go under the e-i-r section and then look under the categorical exemption, then i do think we should make it more obvious and i think that that's something, i know that our communications team is working on. at this point one of the big issues that seems to be discussed is the first approval versus the last approval. that seems to be the major source of contention between those people supporting supervisor wiener's legislation and those people who do not. in terms of the community planning exemption, i did have a question for the supervisor. projects that would be under the community plan exemption, in this process when would the appeal period begin for that? that's one thing i think would be useful to worry

three rooms, that would be the action that would have to have its own c-e-q-a negative declaration or cad ex and that would be the trigger for appeal at that time. >> yes. when an action has been taken that would essentially call into question the content of the environmental document, that's the trigger for the environmental document -- >> the larger -- the largest action that would happen would be the one that would probably trigger it because that would be what neighbors would be more concerned about more than likely the foundation repair, they wouldn't care about as long as it's done well. but the large addition is the one they really would want to know. so, that answers my question. i think that makes it really clear when that trigger date is and it's for the larger project, for the one more overwhelmed encampusing project would be the one that triggered the appeal. >> commissioners, i think maybe if i could take a crack at this, every permit that gets issued has to get its own environmental evaluation which then would trigger its own separate appeal period. >> right. there would be a p