bought a symbol and not caerphilly westernized and home to many european was backward and reactionary as ever. a young greek sailor chimed in. you'll see yourself the filth and poverty when you get there. >> and there you have it. you have a 27-year-old woman who grew up on long island, throwing it all to get on the ship and join the fosterfather she's never met in her pursuit of holiness, and her longing for community. and yesterday, urea was speaking about his down ancestor who was a healer and night in century mexico. he spoke of the catastrophe of holiness and not phrase current in iran because the difficulty of someone who moves against what they've been given and their religious boot. can you talk to us a little, deborah, about what grabs you and the letters with this voice on this profoundly unorthodox quest? >> you know, you've heard a little bit of her voice. i just was so struck by the sharpness and clarity in this sort of enthusiasm monday. it was like, you know, reading some person who is like going to europe for the first time in everything snail and she wants to write on