so that we are consistent in the cafeteria and outside the cafeteria. because we are trying to do is have the students participate in the program. and when students are tempted to go outside of the cafeteria, they're not drinking their milk. which is a very -- you know, which is a real critical part of their growth and development. >> okay. my time has long since expired. so thank you. i think i've got the answer. we want to regulate the bake sale and that's what i was trying to get at. i do believe i understand your position now. so i'll yield back. i know there are others who have questions. >> thank you. congressman mccarthy? >> thank you. and i want to thank chairman miller for having this hearing today. this is something that the committee and the subcommittee has been working on for several years now. and i want to thank you for the panel for bringing the information to a wider audience. i think that, you know, when we start looking at -- and obviously with mrs. obama speaking about this constantly, it's finally moved up the radar which a lot of y

local schools also need the flexibility to determine what food is sold outside the cafeteria. many schools are voluntarily including healthy snacks in the vending machines or extracurricular events. ultimately it is local control over food policy that allows for innovation while still responding to each school's unique circumstances. we've all heard the of regis stories in which a piece of banana bread at a sale does not meet nutritional standards but a bag of chips meets the requirements. clearly arbitrary nutritional mandates can backfire when they override common sense. i hope we will keep these cautionary tales in mind as we explore how parents and local schools can improve children's health. thank you. i yield back. >> % to the committee rules members may submit opening statement in writing which will be made part of the permanent record and not like to introduce the panel of witnesses for this hearing. first witness ms. dora rivas is currently serving as president-elect of the school nutrition is a season after serving as a member of the membership committee in 2005 to 2

in schools and cafeteria charges. we are looking at school nutrition standards. we're looking at food labeling standards. part of the bill requires posting of calories on fast-food menus that will be available and easy to read for consumers. there is going to be a lot more information, a lot more policy effort coming from lots of different directions on trying to get to some of the underlying causes of chronic disease. >> given your years as state insurance commissioner, do ceo's of health insurance companies make too much money? >> the late -- they make a lot more money than i do. that is a shareholder decision, i think. what is troubling is the disconnect between on one hand arguing for an enormous rate increases in what appears to be excessive salaries, overhead costs going forward. wellpoint became the prime example of this where there fourth quarter 2009 profit statement showed a $2.7 billion profit, and within 10 days they have filed up to 40% rate increases for the california market. so the ceo of a 51% salary

and being able to teach that same message of healthy meals both inside and outside of the cafeteria is critical. to them developing healthy eating habits in the future. and eliminating chronic illnesses as well. >> so there should be a minimum standard? >> absolutely. we're recommending that the standards be set by the secretary of agriculture following the recommended dietary allowances or guidelines for americans. >> thank you. ms. morrison, you recommend -- in your testimony, you recommended that congress reduce the child and adult care food program area eligibility test from 50% to 40%. to streamline access to healthy meals while this reduction will have a positive affect on all rural and suburban communities, will it also have a positive affect on urban areas? and if so, how? >> certainly. what do i want to say? the percentage of low-incomed children or families in urban areas is no different than in the rural areas. i mean, if you have a district that has 50% -- in fact, it's going to impact them more in the urban areas. because you will have more children concentrated in an urba

and outside of the cafeteria. what we are trying to do is have the students participate in the program. when students are tempted to go outside of the cafeteria, they're not drinking their milk, which is a real, critical part of their growth and development. >> my time has long since expired. i think i have got the answer. we want to regulate the big sell. that is what i was trying to get at. i do believe i understand your position. i will yield back. others have questions. >> thank you. congressman mccarthy. >> thank you. this is an something we have working region been working on for several years. i want to -- been working on for several years. i want to thank the panel for bringing this message to our audience. michelle obama speaking about this constantly has finally moved up the radar of what you have all known for a long time -- which need to change these things. we have worked on issues that are readying herself for the child metrician reauthorization. the benefits of breast feeding are well recognized, as

staff to iraq that i did not attend, they found through wandering around, along with briefings, a cafeteria that looked great that had a major remodeling and down the road a couple of miles a brand new project that started. people said you were looking at old information. it was scheduled to be completed in the end of 2009, so it is very current. kbr has a pretty good track record for finishing projects on time. i make the observation because my understanding of that is is the importance of oversight, he mentioned them before, they have final approval and they approved the maintenance project. and $31 million request came in, and they approved that. the point is, and they acknowledged it, they said we made a decision based on bad data. the reason i say that is -- i will make a statement and see if you agree. it seems that -- people make mistakes, they miss things. it seems to me in this discussion there are two primary cost control functions. one we have talked about, which you are talking about bringing in better people and train them. that is the government. it seems the other half is two

local schools also need the flexibility to determine what food is sold outside the cafeteria. many schools are voluntarily including healthy snacks in the vending machines are at extracurricular event. ultimately, it is the control over food policy that allows for innovation while still respond to each schools unique circumstances. we've all heard the outrageous stories in which a piece of banana bread at a bake sale does not meet nutritional standards, but a bag of chips meet the requirement. arbitrary nutritional mandates can backfire when the override common sense. i hope will keep these details in mind as we support our parents and local schools can improve children's health. thank you, mr. chairman. i yield back. >> pursuant to committee rule, all members may submit an opening statement in writing which will be made part of a permanent record. and i would like to introduce our panel of witnesses for this thing. first witness, ms. dora rivas is truly serving, president-elect of the school nutrition association after certain as a member of the membership committee in 2005-2

kids in cafeterias and vending machines, the secretary of education and agriculture are very much at work for school nutrition standards. part of the bill requires posting of calories of fast food that will be available and easy to read so there will be a lot more information, a lot more policy effort from different directions to get to some of the underlying causes of chronic diseas >> given your years as state insurance commissioner, to health insurance companies make too much money? >> they make a lot more money than i do. that is a shareholder decision. the disconnect between on one hand arguing for enormous rate increases and overhead costs going forward that will point became the prime example and fourth quarter 2009 profit statement showed a $2.7 billion profit and within ten days, 40% rate increases for the california market. the ceo got a 50% salary increase. there does seem to be a disconnect which is why i asked the top five health insurers to give us the data. they're justified by health care costs which was the verbal exchange, let us make it transparent and educate the

that now has military leaders calling for schools to clean up their cafeterias with healthier, leanerw is current secretary of agriculture, tom vilsack. thank you for joining us. >> happy to be with you today. >> how are school lunches now a national security threat? >> well, mission readyness, 130 retired generals and admirables put a wake-up call today by suggesting that there are too few youngsters fit for military service in part because they are obese or not physically fit enough to serve. it is an indication of why this needs to be a national priority. school lunches and breakfasts, one way of addressing that is by improving the nutritional value of those maeals. >> the school lunch program was established after world war ii because the military found that some lacked in nutrition and were too small, so then it was a national security issue. now, we have the opposite problem, which is people are just too big and overweight. what specifically can be done to the lunch program to change that? >> a couple of things. first of all, establishing nutritional standards that allow us to r

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those thoughts occurred to me recently when i brought my lunch up here to my desk from the cafeteria i ate what i had, then i wanted a cookie, so i went back downstairs and bought two cookies-- not because i was hungry, but because i desired the good taste of cookies. maybe what some of us need from the medical profession is an anti-desire pill. if we had a desire for too much food, money, sex, sleep or a thousand other things, we could just take this pill and it would hopefully kill the desire for whatever it was that we didn't need. if they ever invent the anti- desire pill, i'm going to take one before i sit down in front of the television set every night, because i always end up watching a lot of stuff i'm not interested in. >> stahl: i'm leslie stahl. we'll be back next week with another edition of "60 minutes." so many arthritis pain relievers -- i just want fewer pills and relief that lasts all day. take 2 extra strength tylenol every 4 to 6 hours?!? taking 8 pills a day... and if i take it for 10 days -- that's 80 pills! just 2 aleve can last all day... perfect. choose aleve

. >> well, the group is also emphasizing the need to clean up the menus at school cafeterias nationwideng people have healthier daily options. >>> in case you were not aware, this is national weed day. weed as in marijuana. also known as stoners' day or 4:20. whatever you choose to call it, it is a big day for people who smoke marijuana around the world. and it's taking on a special significance this year with california voters set to decide in november whether to become the first state to legalize pot. there's also a growing push to legalize marijuana in other places. so what is the real significance of april 20th? we are joined now be ryan grim. senior congressional correspondent from huffington post. also the author of "this is your country on drugs, the secret history of getting high in america." ryan, you are so diverse it is incredible. it's amazing. but let me ask you, i myself -- i didn't know it was national weed day. i hate to admit it because i'm going to get beat up on twitter. everyone else seems to know it was national weed day. there's a new poll out there that says still

and whitakerç goes down to the cafeteria, the company headquarters, and mixes with average workers. he understands the numbers. he gives executives assignments and says get it done or i'll move you out. he is not going to put up with failure. >> how much do you think the news today reflects, again, g.m., versus improved fortunes forç the u.s. auto industry as a whole? >> the good news is people are buying cars. the auto sales rate is going up substantially. two million units a year over last year. as a result, chrysler, which also got a government bailout reported some good news they had a first quarter operating profit of nearly $200 million. i think it also reflects across the board that people are feeling better about buying vehicles and about, you know, the economy as aÑi whole. >> and there was a new poll today showing that americans have a more favorable view of american cars again? >> isn't that surprising. a lot of that is driven by toyota's problems with sudden acceleration and their p.r. disaster. but i think it reflects on giving american auto companies a chance. >> when

do as we work through these nutrition demrines that we can't just look at the footh food on the cafeteriae but all the foods available to our children and again, that's why this isn't a problem that can be involved by the federal government. the school community the local community has to want to make these changes and decisions about what's going to go in those vending machines as opposes to trying to what happens in your schools around communities is troll you and your mayors and your city count still sfemple -- folks know their communities better than we'll ever know. but the fact of the matter is that this question points out that we have to make sure that all of the options are good ones and not just some of them. because you guys are pretty sneaky. you'll find a way to get to that bag of chips. [laughter] >> how many of youal in fact when you're looking for snacks at least feel that you have an option in your vending machines at school to have a healthy choice if you want one. would you raise your hand if you have an option for it? >> looks like we have a little work for ourselves.

do as we work through these nutrition demrines that we can't just look at the footh food on the cafeteriaine but all the foods available to our children and again, that's why this isn't a problem that can be involved by the federal government. the school community the local community has to want to make these changes and decisions about what's going to go in those vending machines as opposes to trying to what happens in your schools around communities is troll you and your mayors and your city count still sfemple -- folks know still sfemple -- folks know their communities better than >> we have to make sure that all of the options are good ones, not just some of them. you will find a way to get to that bag of chips. >> how many of you feel you have an option in your vending machines at school to have a healthy choice if you want one? raise your hand if you have options. looks like we have a little work to do. what is your question. >> i am an eighth grader. my question is about labelling on nutrition labels. i wanted to ask what regulations will you put in place so we can eliminate -- we

to do as we work through these nutrition guidelines, that we cannot just look at the food on the cafeteriane, but we have to look at all the food that is available to our children. again, that is why this is not a problem that can be solved by the federal government. the school community, a local community has to want to make these changes. they have to make decisions about what is going to go in those vending machines instead of what is already there. how do you work with your local vendors? we can try to set the tone, but really, what happens after schools and in your communities is really more of to you, your mayors, your city council people, than anything that can happen out of the white house. and it really should. folks know their communities better than we will ever know. the fact of the matter is, we have to make sure that all of the options are good ones, and not just some of them. you guys are pretty sneaky. you will find a way to get to that bag of chips. >> how many of you at least feel that you have an option in your vending machines at school that have a healthy choice if you

when bob gates left, he gave an impassioned speech to the work force in the cafeteria at langley and quoted these words, and the truth shall set you free. the role of our intelligence agencies is to speak truth to power. intelligence is not policy, it is a set of predictions, and it is not science either. based on the other information about human behavior, if it is corrupted, slanted to be what one thinks the policy maker wants to hear, distorted, or cherry pick, it will inevitably lead to bad policy. good intelligence doesn't guarantee good policy, but bad intelligence tend to put us on a slope towards bad policy. i am with the families of september 11. my question is about oversight from congress, and i will assume that no one is going to say that we shouldn't have congressional oversight reform, so how are we going to have congressional oversight reform. >> mike is ducking and is now under the table. does everyone know what of the most outspoken members of the 9/11 families? i call her the wind beneath our wings as we tried to intelligence reform. it is a huge credit to you they

do as we work through these nutrition demrines that we can't just look at the footh food on the cafeteria line but all the foods available to our children and again, that's why this isn't a problem that can be involved by the federal government. the school community the local community has to want to make these changes and decisions about what's going to go in those vending machines as opposes to trying to what happens in your schools around communities is troll you and your mayors and your city count still sfemple -- folks know their communities better than we'll ever know. but the fact of the matter is that this question points out that we have to make sure that all of the options are good ones and not just some of them. because you guys are pretty sneaky. you'll find a way to get to that bag of chips. [laughter] >> how many of youal in fact when you're looking for snacks at least feel that you have an option in your vending machines at school to have a healthy choice if you want one. would you raise your hand if you have an option for it? >> looks like we have a little work for ourselv