obar is cafoel,that is the door to the socialist future this totally ideological. not litil in themal thh,en w by these foundations described in the book but these fudns exio tiltesi da,t he pe ouseld free enterprise. how did that i've take over those organizations? wh iinsd fyou an examplooe as fat abin foundation commented daniel simon colorado, which we mentioned in ourbo. cova ma.y and the people who -- the board wanted to run a professional foundation. so where do they turn? the ford foundation because te rdegn a oo whsto etst ha tnoeo o the board. we applied conservative applicants,o ismsed soo apd arstau h. because there hasn't been enough publicity about what the ford foundation actually does and what these other foundations do. that isifio i uob. al g tfm ero astayed the didn't make the money. they probably feel guilty for it'sot jt egit. i l guitay b le h prt no e rockefellers, you know, were a pretty conservative aerican family. peter collier and i did a book iiiesens yes efr, whe ospo the university of vermont. he said i am a socialist now he's the head