according to the cain theory, that was a freak, a contradiction in terms. yet, it was all too live reality in the long 1970s. at the time, back then, the standard response to stagflation to say there was no defeating. it was the new fact of life. the boundless emission of the united states finally had to be cut down. we had to adjust to diminished expectations on account of scarce resource that is limited growth. as well as the congenital excessive consumerism on the part of the american public that bit of prices in the context of scarcity. that was the general view. i'd just like to have a few words about what the three presidents thought about it at the time, nixon, ford, and carter. i talk about this in the book. nixon actually wanted high inflation. we wanted to increase -- he hold his fed chairman, arthur burns, who had known well as the eisenhower white house, i want you to print money like crazy and cause inflation. that will solve my unemployment problem. then i'm going to count act with price controls. so we're going to have jobs because we're caus

. >> charlie: so your analysis is exactly like my friend, michael caine. >> oh, is it?idn't know. >> charlie: he says people are just tired. they want a change. he was basically saying, "that's me, michael caine saying what i feel, i just want a change. it's been long enough with one party. let's get some new players in." >> 13 years. after 17-18 years with the conservatives, intolerable in 1997, and 13 years is too long. it would be better if we could somehow manage a way of always having a rotation after eight years like you. >> charlie: i thought i was getting an economist and i got a historian. i'll take both. >> you got whatever you got. >> charlie: thank you, martin wolfe. jim lehrer is here. he is, as you know, executive editor and the anchor of "the pbs newshour." this broadcast has become a fixture on public television since it premiered as the robert mcneal report in 1975. jim has been a prolific author. he has written two memoirs and three plays, his latest book is called "super," it is his 20th novel. i'm pleased to have my friend and colleague, jim lehrer,

caine and steele, a "this week" debate. >>> and a debate from "the roundtable." >>> and as always, "the sunday funnies." >> the pul itser prize was given today. to richard blumen thal for his vietnam war memories. >> hello, again. joining me now, the chairman of the democrat national committee, tim kaine and the chairman of the republican national committee, michael steele. >> good morning. ? good morning. >> i want to start with you. the kentucky republican senate candidate, rand paul, has expressed rejection to the federal government being able to tell businesses they cannot discriminate. >> i like the civil rights act that it ended discrimination in all public domains. i abhor racism. it's a bad business decision to excluz anybody. but, at the same time, i believe in private owner ship. there's ten different titles to the civil rights act. one dealing with private institutions. ed that i been around, i would have tried to modify that. >> here is a candidate say thagt he doesn't think the government, philosophically, saying that a buzz had to serve you. >> i think he's clarified his s

again, my concern is, listen, they cain. they made i think some political perspectives on certain collection activities that we used to be able to do that we can't do today. >> congressman, let me ask. you and i have discussed this topic in part. yesterday we spoke. part of what concerns you is this pattern of terror, as you've described it. ft. hood shooter, nadal hassan, botched christmas day underwear bomber as he's described. now the times square attack. describe what about that pattern is most concerning to you right now. >> well, we've seen a switch in the al qaeda doctrine, if you will. this really is driven by at least through a gentleman named al awaki. preferable with a u.s. passport, u.s. citizens of some sort, radicalizing them and sending them on something -- still a lethal operation but not nearly as spectacular as flying planes into a building. that's a change for them. it's a change that we're going to have to deal with, which means things are happening faster. the footprint might be a little bit smaller. so

slavery is the angola penitentiary from baton rouge because there is this long serving morgan. , burl cain has accumulated a lot of political capital and own seems to fire him. he is able to carry on after all the administration's like j. edgar hoover once was. .. >> any other questions? go ahead. >> i'm what if you have shared your work -- pisa, a lot folks are familiar with the story and i think folks in this room are sympathetic. i'm wondering if you shared your research with prison guards or wardens and what have been their response to your kind of narrative of this process? >> some of that remains to be seen. i kept my cards close to my best western the research because i was able to get approved as an official researcher. not by being kind of dishonest about by being showing what i was interested in asking questions about, but try not to share with any of my interpretational framework. and i haven't -- one toward who helped me quite a lot has been in such. and i am sort of wondering when or if i should get in touch with them. although one person who is very prominent has written me,

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