so, that's what the cal bo, that's what's upcoming in october. and they have a menu of courses that you can take and two of them specifically go to accessibility. >> two of the training -- >> two of the training. now, i don't know exactly what percentage of the staff has taken those. >> okay. but has there been determined a number for us of what is sufficient according to the rules? >> that hasn't been determined. >> okay. maybe we should just so that we get them trained. >> acting director? >> okay. to commissioner mar's question regarding how to certify those permits, usually when they come in for, you know, only disabled access is what we call barrier removal. a permit alone only deals with disability only. also i want to let you know the secretary of the disabled access appeal board, also, we don't do the, you know, for the lawsuit itself. usually once they have a consultant to inspect the site, they will give a [speaker not understood] what they need to do and award the lawsuit, okay, and then they can come in for some modification or future