. >> cal perry talked about moving kids in the middle of the night and you can't see, using telephotoenses to see what's going on. not letting members of congress into the facility. essentially hiding the children. >> yes. >> did you ever think you would see those reports happening? >> i feel we are in prenazi germany, stages of things occurring on a daily basis, object physical indicati object physical indication, lies are horrendous. we have to be vigilant. every 40 years there's another genocide somewhere. we had a genocide here against our own native indigenous people, we enslaved one out of eight people living on u.s. soil precivil war was an enslaved person. we have a terrible record on human rights actually. we thought we were doing better now, but we haven't been and we aren't. i'm a goodwill ambassador for united nations of drugs and crime on human trafficking. to see the united states pull out of the u.n. human rights council was so horrifying to me. it sends a message to the world that donald trump and his administration are above the law, they're above international standa

joy"" and cal perry, global news editor and peter shea is back with us. joy, you and cal managed to get inside one of these tent facilities that they have on a military base down there today. what did you see? >> well, we took a tour, there were 23 reporters in total, we were walked through this facility. it's a military camp. there's sort o no better way to describe it. there are various tents where the children do structured activities. we saw kids lining up to go in and use the phone room. they're allowed two ten minute phone calls a week that are monitored closely by a staff member. there's a showering tent. there's like a mess tent. it's all military. it looks like any sort of military camp you might see. we were able to see one sleeping tent, lawrence, for some of the boys which had five rows of bunks on either side neatly made with a blue blanket and a pillow. there was a table where i saw some books. one of the things that struck me, there were crayon drawings on the walls of this particular bunk, children, it's not clear who drew them, some were i

we still have cal perry down at that makeshift tent city in tornillo, texas. cal, not sure if you were able to hear the president there, or our attempt there. but your reaction if you did catch what the president said? >> my reaction coming from the tent city, we spoke to the emergency manager who actually runs the camp. he works for a private company that's contracted out to take care of the facilities on the camp. he said, quote, this shelter would not have been necessary without a separation. the crisis is a result of the decision to separate these kids. he called the process flawed. the separations should have never happened. he actually said it harms the children. you have opposition to the policies coming out of the white house from inside these camps themselves. little bit more color on this camp. 22 military style tents. two of them set aside for the girls. 20 of them for the boys. we saw some drawings. the kids had put on the wall. that was probably the most emotional sort of part of the visit. we saw one that said, i'm 100% honduran. i've walked more

nbc's cal perry joins us now from torneo, texas. what can you tell us about that visit.now it's the place where the so-called tent city is located. that facility for young men ages 16 and 17, young migrant men ages 16 to 17, what did the senators say about their visit there yesterday? >> well actually the tent city is behind me. it's on that compound that you see over my shoulder. but it's been built in a way that it's out of view. of the media. we cannot get any decent shots of it really from where we are. it's not just being kept out of view of the media. it's being kept out of view from elected officials as well. those three senators, udall, hinrich came here to try to pressure authorities to let them see the tents. they came here, spoke to the media. they walked to the gate behind me. they had an interaction with homeland security. then they were allowed onto the compound, but they were taken into a control room, david and shown some cctv footage of the tent city. they didn't get to see it with their own eyes. after is that visit they came back here and were very ups

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we've only seen these government handouts, chris. >> cal perry. that is a very important question to get to the bottom of the. the plans for tornillo. that is on federal government property, am i correct? on a military base in tornillo? >> no, it's federal property just off that highway right there to my right, your left. >> federal property means as jacob sober rof and other advocates noted that essentially gives the government immunity in terms both lawsuits so it's even more important that reporters be allowed to get in there. cal perry. >> i'll tell you, the best shots we've seen from a local newspaper the reporter went to mexico, came around, risking a lot to get those photos to get the shots. if you walk on to this road, you'll be met by a customs border patrol with three minutes, flashing lights and they escort you off that road, chris. >> thank you. i'm joined right here in mccallan, texas by stephanie rhule and jacob sobero. there's two populations unaccompanied minors kids coming by themselves coming for a while, it spiked in 2014. that'

and cal perry, covering immigration for us all over the place.lways the public first lady, but now twice in a week going down to the badr in a highly public way. that's the impetus for her involvement? >> we heard directly from the first lady, steve. she said she was here to support tose work e those workers, customs and border protection folks, but also some children and families. one of the sound bites from the first lady that's already resonating is her telling these border patrol folks that border patrol folks that she knows how dangerous and how difficult their jobs are. i was embedded with the border patrol in texas, and they are under a lot of pressure,ing the me they are also parents, they are also human beings and having to deal with this border crisis has taken a toll on them. the first lady today touring the tucson coordination center, this is one of those facilities where migrants, including children and families, are first taken after being apprehended at the border. woe know from our nbc pool traveling with the first lady about some

nbc's cal perry has more from texas. cal, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, frances. it seems like the confusion only grows as this story continues to play out across the country. the bottom line is we don't know how many kids are in this tent city that exists behind me. we don't know where they're going and when they're being moved. in fact, we saw three vans moving under the cover of darkness at around 3:00 in the morning just last night. so that seems to be playing out as they start to move these kids around. we saw a bit of activism yesterday as well. about two dozen mayors converging on this spot. they gave a press conference voicing their concerns about what's happening. then they walked the short distance behind me to the gates of that tent city. they requested entry, and home that they need -- and this is what the mayors told me -- two weeks to have their applications processed for entry. so it's not just the media that can't get in. elected officials as well, very frustrated elected officials. we saw the mayor of new york city, bill de blasio, and the mayor o

us through the action, we have nbc's garrett haake in washington, blake mccoy in new york city, cal perry in el paso and mariana atencio in los angeles that's where the protest to reunite migrant families are happening. let's go to you, garrett, at lafayette square across from the white house. talk about what's happening. i know some people were heading out on a march. has that begun? >> we're at the transition point between the rally that started at 11:00 and has gone well beyond its proscribed length and the march that will happen from near the department of justice. after all, these protesters believe that is the key issue here. the administration's zero tolerance policy, that starts with doj. they'll march down the street beyond me here. the boos you're hearing now is an anti-rights protester who has been out here all day long garrett, diane guerrero is standing at the microphone in washington. let's listen. >> that is only because i do not exist in the eyes of the government. they had no regard for a child left behind. whether that is a good thing or a bad thing i still don't know bu

among them in el paso, texas the latest, nbc's cal perry is covering that for us. had do you expect to see where you are? >> we'll see at least a few hundred people, maybe a few thousand marching from where i am to the footbridge that connects el paso to the city of juarez, you can expect to hear a lot about this tent city that exists 40 minutes to the south of me at the border, at least 326 children are being held at least 23 of those kids are still separated from their parents, no word on those reunions and no word on the broader reunions of course at least 2,047 children still separated from their parents across the country. that is what you can expect to hear from here as the march will get under way in about 90 minutes. alex? >> we know you're going to keep an eye on that for us, cal perry, good to see you. >>> today is a day of uncertainty for hundreds of people from puerto rico who have been displaced after hurricane maria. some staged a protest this week because housing vouchers they received from fema expire at midnight tonight. so tomorrow they could be o

cal perry back onset. >> that's how planes work.flight compared to guam. >> you really loved that. let's talut somef the pos, take aways that we have from this time in singapore. >> if you're a trump supporte one of the things you want is the u.s. to withdraw from around the world, become more isolationist, this did it. the thing that separates the u.s. from other kunls aroucount our allies, countries that stand with us as we execute our foreign policy around the world. south korea stood with the united states in every conflict since 1953. but donald trump was clear in his campaign, very clear to supporters, he wants to withdraw the u.s. from around the world, bring u.s. troops home at any cost to another country. is it america first or america alone. right now, it is the sort of the latter. >> good point on twitter yesterday, it is not as if any other u.s. president could not have made the same choice to meet with kim jong-un. >> right. we heard president obama when he was debating this saying he would, and he was ripped for it. he

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nbc's cal perry was there. you heard the discussion about what the president said, saying no judges, no court cases here, that would obviously affect a lot of those individuals that you've been reporting on at the detention centers around you. >> reporter: yeah, let's be clear, 60% of the federal court proceedings are usually jammed up by immigration proceedings, right? and just to describe to people what actually happens down here along the border is groups of people are brought into these courthouses, they're asked how do they plead in unison, then they have to answer in unison and usually sort of say, everybody says "si" then they go back to a facility, usually the judge will then ask them please don't come back and do this again because i'll have to send you to prison. so down here, that's sort of a daily way of life. i think people would be surprised to hear that around the rest of the country. now, as for the protests that took place behind me, we saw about 1,000 people i would say, a mix of politicians a

tornillo, texas, northwest of hidalgo, cal perry is there. we're hearing from gabe about the protests in broad strokes. what can we expect where you're at today? >> we have seen small ones and we have seen members of congress trying to get into the compound behind me. you can see the celebrities coming out to raise the profile and the protesters aren't going to get access. we aren't even getting access. even congressmen and senators haven't gotten access. we saw tom udall who was able to get into the compound, he was able to talk to the children in there. he was able to nail down some information for us. there's between 250 and 260 kids in there. take a listen to what he said about the conditions and his thoughts on it. >> the real problem is is the trauma of being separated from your parents. i mean, that's something that runs deep and you can't just fix with physical types of things. giving people meals. there's an element to this that's very heart breaking to me as a father. it's a pretty sad circumstance and this policy that created this

. >> nbc's cal perry joins me again from tornillo, texas.t's unclear exactly how many have been reunited with their parents since the president's executive order last week. they had a health and human services, asr said yesterday families can essentially be reunited. they can click on a button. a key stroke. locate them. that is not at all what many reporters on the ground are hearing. i just want to play this. >> there is no reason why any parent would not know where their child is located. i could at the stroke of -- at key strokes, sat on the orr portal with just basic key strokes within seconds could find any child in our care for any parent. >> so then we saw your colleague gabe gutierrez doing an interview where he has somebody, again, on the ground saying, we can't even find these people. what do you see? what are you hearing? >> reporter: look, yeah. the government was woefully unprepared to carry out first the separations of the children from their parents, and because they were woefully unprepared to execute that policy they were w

well, with us from el paso county, texas, tonight is our own cal perry. l, i'm told we're fighting a bit of a satellite delay, but my first question for you is this. is the federal government any better equipped tonight than when you first got out there to, for example, reunite toddler "a," who happens to be in a michigan shelter, with family "a," who may be in mcallen, texas? >> reporter: i think they're probably worse equipped because family "a" may not be in in mcallen, texas, anymore. they may be back in guatemala. the other thing is there's a paperwork issue sneaking up on everybody. the u.s. government loves its paperwork and they love it in duplicate. if you're born in a rural hospital in guatemala, and your mother presents that birth certificate here to officials while you're trying to get your child in some kind of tent city, it's quite likely they're going to reject that paperwork. they're not going to accept that birth certificate. so i think the u.s. government is actually worse off than they were when this policy was implemented. they were vas

let's now go to cal perry in el paso, texas. ere where you are, cal. >> reporter: hey, joy, we are at the border. just over that wall is juarez. we are still in el paso. this march has gotten larger and larger by the minute. if you take a look at the storefronts that one this whole area -- i'm sorry -- you take a look at the storefronts that run this area, people are coming out of these stores, joining this march. the goal was to get here to the border and obviously make the point that these camp cities, these tent cities are just not acceptable to the people that are here. i'm going to try to -- excuse me, sir. sir, do you have a minute? no. all right. some people don't want to talk, joy, for obvious reasons, other people do want to talk. the message here is that the administration's policy of detaining these children separating them from their families especially when you talk to this community is just unacceptable. this is a community that believes the children that are in that tent city just about 40 minutes to the south of h

cal perry is in for neotexas. we are hearing reporting here at nbc our julia ainsley that even this added capacity may be stretched to the limit really quickly. >> stretched very quickly. buses have continued to come throughout the day. two full ones that i counted. we know on friday there were roughly 200 unaccompanied minors in the camp behind me. 18 tents. there was on friday. somewhere between 300 or 400 now. we are just not being given the information. what happens now? there was a protest earlier today. people were happy to hear about this executive order but their question, especially by school administrators who were out here in force is what happens now? what you have been talking about. clearly the system is stressed. you talked about the cost. we are talking about a cost of $5 million a month to run a facility like that even just at a moderate sort of level. the question now of what happens to these kids, listen, if the agencies were not equipped to handle it when the kids arrived how are they going to

. >> cal perry on the border, thank you, cal. >> maxine waters is warning trump administration officials to have a slew of confrontations. >> those on his cabinet supporting him will not be able to eat a a restaurant, shop at a department store, people will turn on them, protest them, and harass them until they decide to tell the president no, i can't hang with you. >> orin hatch fired back on twitter saying this was a very dangerous idea. this comes days after white house press secretary sarah sand sanders was told to leave red hen because she works for president trump. the owner of the restaurant says she believes this is a moment when supreme to make the uncomfortable decision to "uphold their morals." >>> a meeting between stormy daniels and the u.s. attorney's office have canceled their meeting. they were scheduled to meet today as part of the ongoing general investigation into michael cohen. after the cancellation, they shared an e-mail they wrote to prosecutors. we believe cancelling the meeting because the press has now caught wind of it is ridiculo ridiculous. we don't think it

might remember it was double that number and that's the big increase in those trying to reach spain cal perry hall is in el mir in spain he joins us live from there now so i always basically say seeing the pattern the flow of people trying to reach europe changing now. this is certainly what the or thora these are thinking based on the figures that they've seen this year migrant arrivals and refugee arrivals by sea are up more than three fold and if you look at the month of june alone which is when the italy's right wing populist government came to power well migrant arrivals in spain and now two times the number that they are in italy during the same period that is what is leading all forty's to believe that there could be a shift in the in the importance of the western mediterranean migrant route towards these ports here in southern spain now today you look at the sea you can perhaps see that behind me it's not a good day for sailing but there are boats here on constant standby to head out into the mediterranean carry out those rescues if needed and put quite simply the situation this year

nbc's cal perry joins us life now from tornillo, texas. cal, what have you discovered there? >> lawrence, about a quarter of a mile behind me is the tent city. we have just some aerial photos to go on about what it looks like, 18 to 20 tents fitting ten unaccompanied minors in each tent at a time. we heard from a local congressman here, his district, he said they're possibly expanding out to 4,000 bed. lawrence, we can't get inside, we go to the road, we are escorted back by the border security. we saw vans leaving. we assume that was taking unaccompanied minors to dinner. by way of reporting, lawrence, i landed here recently as you did, i came from london, i cover government strife around the world. it's incredibly uncomfortable saying to you and the country on camera the american government is not letting us inside these facilities. the american government is not showing us inside these facilities. the american government is offering jacob soboroff photos from two years ago. i'm used to saying these things in countries overseas. the thing that has always -- and this is by w

. >> joining us live on the ground in texas, nbc national news correspondent cal perry. let's talk about where you are. they're building a massive tent city or more accurately called a camp. what have you seen so far? >> reporter: a camp that's being built out of eyesight from where we are, a quarter mile that way, no line of sight which is intentional. the story typical of the story across the southern border, we're not seeing in the centers, not told what's going on. these are camps, tent cities. we should call them as we see it as they are. around 400 we believe young boys are being housed here. we believe because the crew was able to get long lens shots of them playing soccer. other than that, it has been difficult to get anything out of these places to understand fully what's going on. this is a spillover area as they described it, places where these unaccompanied minors are able to come where there's not room in other centers, guys. >> these tent cities and camps, similar to what you see in the middle east, not something we're used to in the united states which mak

. >> we'll go through the day's headlines this hour with nbc's cal perry and gabe gutierrez in texas and kelly o'donnell at the white house. time magazine's jay newton and harwood round out our team. gabe gutierrez in mcallen texas. we saw a group of lawmakers. they just toured one of the facilities there housing some of the migrant children. what more did they say besides that heart wrenching testimony? >> reporter: hi there, gigi. good afternoon. more than 20 democratic lawmakers were here given this tour and has been difficult to get images from inside these facilities, journalists were just recently allowed without cameras to go inside and see this ursula processing center, the largest microprocessing center in the country. we should be clear. the democratic lawmakers went to saying the conditions for the kids themselves, but they are treated well. the big issue right now is that they are separated from their parents. let's look a little bit more what we heard from the lawmakers a short time ago. take a listen. >> they were small children, many of them under the age of 5 who were

joining us now, cal perry and maria teresa kumar of voto latino.he trump administration was originally saying they want this zero-tolerance policy at the border and because of this flores consent decree that said you can't keep kids for more than 20 days therefore they had to separate them. now they're saying because of this new ruling they'll still do zero tolerance but they keep the kids with the parents for as long as that takes, presumably much longer than 20 days so sounds like they are setting up for a challenge of son-in-law sort with this consent decree, is that right? >> 100% and the trump administration is about to drop a political bomb depending on how the judge reacts to this judicial note. the key phrase in this -- and i'm not a lawyer -- is "throughout the pendency." that means throughout the process the court will take in dealing with these families. in speaking to immigration lawyers in the country, and nbc news has done so since this report comes out, it means the united states could be indefinitely detaining families, there is suc

cal perry got a first look today at a facility.ell us what you saw. >> it wasn't shocking the conditions, which should be expected here in america. let's be clear about that. what we did see was fairly militaryized. it was equivalent to like a forward operating base you would see in american personnel putting out around the country. there were 22 tents. two tents for girls, 20 for boys. 20ities dmids each tent. they were walking around single file as their group coordinates theirent the. there was some astro turf out where kids could play football. we were not allowed to interact with the kids. hhs put that limitation on us when we were told we could visit. the information officer who runs the catch was vocal about how bad he thought the administration policy was. this is man who is in charge of running the camp. specifically about the access. he thought it wasn't going well because it was happening really in secret or at least it appeared to the media to be happening in secret. his question what is going to happen to the 362 kids

now, over to cal perry in el paso, texas, and cal, keep our eye on the prize here, right? there is a question of over 2,000 children trying to get reunified, right? and so are we seeing any indications here and hearing anything on the ground there in places like where you are at, so essential to reunifying the families. any detail? we are not seeing in any meaningful way to see the preparations under way, and we have heard this last night through the justice department legal brief through the justice in california talking now about detaining the families together and when you are talking to the immigration attorneys around the country, and we have, they say that could mean indefinite attention, and the courtses are so backed up, and when you are looking at the place like the place i am in, and el paso, and you can see the courts overwhelmed and you can see people detained for inordinate amounts of times, and that is why we see the march here to the park we are at, and to juarez, and it bears repeating el paso and juarez has a symbolic relationship. sure juarez is dangerous

i want to get to cal perry in texas, those following our coverage, you know that cal has been trying to get into one of these facilities for days now. cal, as i understand it, you just ran out, just stepped out of a tour of the facility there. one of these tent cities. what can you tell us? what did you see? >> reporter: all right. craig, so we've just gotten some clarification -- sorry. someone's in my ear. just come out of our first tour of the tent facility which, of course, a lot of attention on this facility. the breakdown of the kids inside. 326 children inside that camp now. 14 are girls. 23 of the kids inside that camp were separated from their families. a breakdown where they're from. 117 from honduras. 40, al salvador. 102 from guatemala and four from other countries. spent two hours inside. given a full tour after a briefing. headline for me and joyce here as well, i think, was the emergency manager who works for a company called bcsf said the following to the media. direct quotes "the shelter would not have been necessary without the separations." "the crisis was made as

let's go to my partner, cal perry from tornillo, texas, what is a tent city. what's happening behind that barbed wire, in that so-called tent city behind you? >> reporter: we had clarification yesterday because senator blumenthal and a couple others were able to get on the compound. they were not able to get to where the tents are housing those unaccompanied minors. they were taken into a control room and shown cctv footage. we did learn they're between 200 and 270 young males between the age of 14 and 18. while that is helpful and clarifying, it does not answer the question as to where are the toddlers and where are the girls and where are they going to go and how are they going to be treated? now, add to that we've seen a steady stream of protesters and activists coming to this site, not just lawmakers. today we saw medical professionals, around 50 to 100 of them from across the state converging here to voice their concern. i was able to speak to one of those doctors and we spoke about, what are the medical conditions likely these kids are facing. here's wha

nbc news international correspondent cal perry has been covering developments outside of tent city in texas and has the latest for us. >> reporter: good morning. really confusion continuing to reign on this story and reign across the country. we still don't know how many kids are in the camp behind me and we do do not know when they are being moved. we do see in the middle of the night vans leaving under the cover of darkness. with he cannot get into that camp to verify some of the numbers. it's not just us, of course, we saw two dozen mayors converged on this spot yesterday to protest what's going on across the country. they gave a press conference here and walked the short distance behind me to that compound. they were met there by security from homeland security department and they were told that they not only could not enter, but that they needed to move back for their own safety and security. the mayors obviously very frustrated telling me that they've been told it's going to take two weeks to process their application to get access to that camp. two of the mayors in particular,

msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos is also in mcallen, texas, outside a federal criminal court and cal perry is in tornillo, texas near one of the tent cities housing children. kelly, start with what's going on in this administration. there seems to not ever be a real plan for how to enact their more extreme policies, their policies that anybody could easily say are going to cause a lot of drama. the muslim ban. that travel ban that he tried to institute eaon in the administration. no plan for that. no plan for the separation of the kids. now no plan for the reunification. what's going on? >> reporter: well, katy, the hot-button issues that you just highlighted that gave the president red meat as a candidate and in many ways continued to animate his presidency are about that ideological view. some of the people who are around him share, and even propel, his ideology on those topics. part of the dna of the trump administration has also been sort of an anti-government approach where they don't have people steeped in government operations. they don't have the numbers of people to carry out poli

. >> cal perry and ron hilliard. protests in mcallen, texas, other parts of the country. we're waiting for the president to speak. we'll continue to cover this throughout the afternoon here on msnbc. >>> president trump continuing to call out congress for the migrant family separation crisis, writing this on twitter. we must maintain a strong southern border. we cannot allow our country to be overrun by illegal immigrants as the democrats tell their phoney stories of sadness and grief, hoping it will help them in the elections. obama and others had the same pictures and did nothing about it. a lot to react to there from representative maxine waters, democrat of california. the ranking member on the house financial services committee. react to the rhetoric, the political rhetoric, if you would. we've been focused on the suffering that's taking place, these families ripped apart, trying to find each other after this policy was put in place. politics intervened. we've seen the president's tweets. you've seen the president's tweets. what do you make of his message to congress

i want to bring in cal perry along with ambassador to weigh in on everything that we've heard over the last 60 minutes or so. ambassador hill i'll start with you on this one. talk about your takeaway as to what we heard from the president. are you satisfied so far in wha? did he expand enough on this joint declaration before we wrent live to singapore? >> he seemed to be very pleased with himself. he stayed and just continued to answer questions. you had the impression he might be there all day. he seemed to be very pleased with what he's gotten out of the summit andrankly he wasn't pushed very hard on some of the verbage of some of that disjointed statement which those people who have kind of gone through the exercise during the ton administration and then the one that i was involved in during the bush administration would beg to differ on his analysis that somehow this latest statement was more specific or dealt with these issues better. to me the real shocker was the idea no more exercises or as he called them, war games. he said that it's -- it's part of a sort of general effort to

cal perry is in tornillo, texas in one of the tent cities housing the children. and julia ainsley has been following the story for us, as well. hallie, start with you. how is the president going to square signing this executive order if he does in fact do this and stop it from making it look like he's backed down, making it look like he is weak? >> so it is one thing with what the president says, katy, and it is another with what is the actual reality of the facts on the ground. the president, if in fact as we expect this executive order does not reverse that zero tolerance policy, if in fact it overrides that flores settlement we've been talking about, the president will technically be able to say he hasn't reversed his policy. however, in effect, that is exactly what has happened. this is and about-face. it is reversing the impact of the policy the president himself put into place. as far as squaring it, it might beficu for donald trump given that just five days ago he stood on the south lawn with my colleagues here at the white house and said you can't have an

i want to bring in cal perry, cal is outside the tent city in texas., tell us what you see there. i've been here and i'm desperate to get inside a center and have opportunity to do so. >> reporter: we're still desperate to get inside of this tent city. you're going to see security now. they are just checking us out. this is the best angle we were able to find. we came down a dirt road. we were initially pushed back and the sheriff's office stepped in and allowed us to do the live shot. it speaks to the fact that i do not believe there was a plan to deal with the influx. we believe there's 200 inside of this tent city. we're dealing with sketchy information because we're not allowed in. as you know, we report on political strife around the world. this is a first. my saying to you the united states government is not telling us what's going on inside this tent city. one more thing i want to add, stephanie, the weather very different from where you are to where we are. it's going to 105 to 110 degrees. very concerning, obviously, if you're in one of these

my colleague cal perry is looking at reaction. janice was saying, we saw the flags there side by side. we saw the myriad of photo opportunities that the north korean leader had. how is this playing in pyongyang? >> reporter: north korean state tv put out these outrageous claims, but they started doing something weird, which is telling the truth and telling things in semi real time. you see some of it there. this was the announcement that the summit was going to take place. the presenter there on the left, this is the very famous presenter now known around the world as the person they go to for these big events. saying to the people of north korea that the summit would focus on one of the issues being the denuclearization. the second clip i'll show you in the past 12 hours shows kim and around singapore. it shows him visiting the city, and it says that he learned a lot about the social and economic development of the republic of singapore. this is something that he's promised the people of north korea, that he would turn the economy

. >>> joining us now from el paso county texas, nbc global news editor, cal perry. and also danny a val lsavalos w just returned from the border. it sounds like the judge in the san diego case is going to find out where the babies are. but in the meantime, there are protests continuing, and you saw a protest today in texas where they were trying to, in some way, communicate with the kids in custody. >> yeah and by way of explaining i think what's happening down here at the border and what's happening across the country. look at this video. we had a small protest. there have been small protests every day trying to keep attention down here. this was to get a balloon over top of the camp with a sign that says you are not alone, written in spanish. unfortunately what happened is a rancher showed up, this was a public road being used and a rancher showed up to run protesters off of this public road. at one point he takes out a gun. take a listen. >> he's got a gun. tell them he's got a gun. >> they know. >> tell them up there he's got a gun. >> i don't have my phone. >>

cal perry has been covering this for us throughout the week. what are you seeing in tornillo? foe you just spoke to an elected. >> we spoke to senator tom udall from mexico. he tried to get into this and was denied entry. he did. and he helped solve one of the mysteries we have which is where are the girls? he shed some light on that. take a listen. >> we were just trying to get a sense in the short period of time they were there do they -- are they being treated well? have they had any problems? those kind of things? have they talked to their parents? most of those things were answered yes. and, and i would say for the most part kind of happy and smiles, just today seven girls have arrived at about the approximate same age. >> 13 to 17. >> 13 to 17 girls. >> so you heard there from the ages of 13 to 17. he put the total number of kids in that camp at somewhere between 250 and 260. we thought it was around 250 but obviously he's adding in there the recent arrival of those seven female detainees. he described it as very hot. it is, of course, very hot. it's about 108 degrees ou

cal perry is in texas. cal, even the first lady is not letting up on the issue.through developments in the process to reunite the families. i want to stress one more time this narrative that the parents are just choosing to come to the united states. please remind us the conditions they're leaving and why they're coming here. this ain't no pleasure cruise. it is life or death. >> reporter: no. if you're deciding to make this journey, then you live in a hellish existence where you come from to walk 10,000 kilometers across mexico. we'll tell you what the kids are dealing with, some of them came alone. some of them walked across mexico alone. and when we talk to the emergency manager in the camp by way of something a bit lighter, he said the biggest complaint from the kids is it is too cold from air conditioning, not too hot. they have come from places they were sleeping outside. imagine what girls went through walking across south america. it is incredible. you can see juarez behind me. you have been talking about the financials of this. why not spend that money,

nbc's cal perry is near one of the tent cities in tornillo, texas. natalie jordan. andy carney, white house reporter for politico. kelly, first to you. why did the first lady suddenly decide to make this trip? >> well, as you understand, it takes a few days to set like this up. it is in some ways a position of good cop/bad cop in the trump family. mrs. trump rortedly had been disturbed by the images of separated children, pressuring her husband to take action. tweeted publicly which is the first time she had taken a position on a policy issue outside of her own limited portfolio and is putting herself in a much more limited position than we have seen her really during the life of this presidency. notwithstanding her illness where she took some down time. also being very careful to not directly contradict the president's policy on this but to offer interest, pore, asking questions and her physical presence being there draws attention to it and she may be able to do some good there, not only for the issue, but perhaps for her husband politically allowing him to be in

calipa cal perry and mariana. blake mccoy is following the protest outside this building in new york city. blake, a good day to you. let's talk about what's going on where you are. >> hi, alex. this has been a protest on the move today. it started in lower manhattan outside city hall. it's now spanning the entire length of the brooklyn bridge as people cross over into brooklyn here for an organized rally that will be taking place. a big march going on. i would estimate at least 10,000 people. among the folks who have come out today, heather, jason and little lucy from queens. why was it so important for you to be here today? >> we just feel like as parents we couldn't stand by as parents and watch other parents lose their children. it's really important for us to be out there and supporting people. all children should be with their parents no matter what. this month was our birthday month. lucy and i both had a birthday one week apart. we did a fundraiser. we raised about $12,000 together for together rising. >> y

joining us live on the ground, nbc news international correspondent cal perry. all this morning you were part of a group that was allowed to enter the facility that house hundreds of migrant children in those tents. fill us in on the conditions that you saw inside of that facility. >> reporter: so the conditions for the kids are good. they're pretty well taken care of which is what you would expect here in america obviously. the private security company that does this work, the type of contracting covers hurricanes so they're used to merge management. they said one of the chief complaints is that the air conditioners in these tents are running too cold. one of the things that we were able to get with some actual information which we haven't been able to in 11 days on the kids, where they're from, 117 of them, the majority of them are from honduras and guatemala. you guys were talking about the world cup. i wanted to sort of share something that was a little bit more positive, more happy than the last live shot. these kids are loving the world cup. they're allowe

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