>> well, cal transoached firms and in other cases they've approached us but >> helping women owned or minority owned businesses. that's just a plus if they are. >> exactly. so on this team here we have four small businesses and zune is a small business, but not a dbe. >> how do you determine if your program is successful? what are the indicators for success besides some a few of them competing against you? >> to me i think they've all stayed in business. >> okay. >> i think in this economy with the work not being as plentiful as in the past i think that's the best indicator. >> thank you for allowing me the opportunity to go down the pathway. oftentimes there are people watching at home that may have these types of questions. you can continue. thank you. >> almost wrapped up. let's talk about schedule. our intent is to execute the tita moa agreements and the construction management contracts this month and as i indicated before -- that's contingent on receiving the authorization from the federal and state for the dollars which we anticipate later this month. we will start advertisemen