. >> the new california energy code is the country's most stringent energy code. and it says that in many cases, you must install energy first lighting pictures in new construction and when you're replacing pictures and you have to install -- fixes and you have to -- fixtures and you have to install four pins in kitchens for example and they cannot be replaced with screw type sockets. it will only take this type of bulb. you have to replace the whole fixture to go back. >> there is a prohibition against using edison-based fixtures. there are exceptions. for residential kitchens, more than 50% of the wattage has to be energy-efficient and throughout the rest of the house, you have to use energy efficient dimmers or you have to use fluorescent light bulbs. you can design with incandescent lights, although i anticipate in future energy efficient codes, that exception will go away. >> there are lots and lots of other requirements in the california energy code that relate to electrical installation. for example, you can no longer put electriresistance heat in buildings

aggressive in opposing my efforts to have them make the building order to comply with the california energy code, and so, essentially, they turned around and allow the property owner to continue the project, and they never incorporated the requirements of the order, so i have a letter to you, a copy for each commissioner, and attached to it, two attachments. one attachment is the order, and i have highlighted the requirements of the on/off switch, in the second attachment is the documents -- and the second attachment is the document to incorporate the requirements of the order, and it was a backdraft damper. it was nothing that i requested. the essentially omitted everything that i won in that hearing, and i went to great expense. i hired an attorney. i hired an independent mechanical engineer although i am a mechanical engineer myself just to provide the board with an independent qualified opinion. those bands should have never been installed. it was unfortunate that the compromise was even accepted by the board. i was hoping to address the merits of my case and get into the technical issue of

there's no additional cost because in california, the state energy codes and all these different things are supportive of good quality, so the state is really coming along too. in terms of percent, marginal. do you want to say sala? it was 25 percent? >> sala, you were the project manager. tell us what your experience was. how the budget looked to you. >> i can jump and say 15 percent. but that's not the whole story. it's about how you're pushing. you can make it in 10 or 15 percent or 25 percent. i think it's about how the team, when i say the team, the client, the contract, the designer, sorry, and architect, the contractor, the move manager and the staff, all of those are on moving towards one goal. if they are not doing that all together. that 15 or 10 percent or whatever number can be 50 percent because you're pulling and pushing. and as beverly said, we are in an existing structure. almost 100 years old. there are other variables that you have to work out with the landlord, contractor. so the same concept you, have to look at the time and the cost of the project. once you decide w