that is because the rate proposal before the california public utilities commission is to adopt a decision that says yes to a flat generation rate but does not implement it for some time. it looks most likely to be one year from now. if we want our program and began an hour off out notifications -- began an in our opt out program, the understanding among customers of what the pg&e rate changes will be should be clearer. we will not get caught up in the changes the customers are seeing from the pg&e changes when we're trying to market our program. that is my general presentation on the three program areas. i would like to give miss miller an opportunity to give the lafco commissioners and our commissioners her thoughts on the program changes as well. supervisor campos: can you say anything about low income customers? >> we are targeting our program geographically. we want to offer our program to areas of the city -- to all of san francisco, starting with areas of the city the most likely to say yes to the program and stay with it. the fact that san francisco is the verse -- diverse. the low

. >> and an independent investigation rips into pg&e and california public utilities commission in a report that comes nine months after the deadly san bruno fire. >> last fall, california public utilities commission asked for the panel. the report criticizes not only pg&e but the puc as well. there are recommendations and the report basically said we have to look at pipe line safety in a different way. when it comes to operating gas pipe line systems in california. the concept of business as usual must end. that's what the panel conclude. pg&e and other pipe linep agencies don't know what is under round. records were not kept or have been lost. >> one commissioner acknowledged that pg&e lacked the kind of safety culture needed. >> i think what your report identified is a culture where documents, retention and documentation and maintenance is sort of treated like flossing. it is an unpleasant task. we are at risk for heart attacks. it is part of the change. and recommendations were changed . he will see more fined in the area. shareholders are paying attention. lee cox will move quick

the california public utilities commission says pg&e admitted it violated safety laws in connection with the explosion. the violations include installing a gas pipe with thinner walls than allowed and failing to test the pressure adequately. the fines still requires final approval from the commissioners of the cpuc. >>> state regulators now have 225,000 pages of pg&e documents on pipeline wells. but it's unclear if anyone will actually read all of them. back in march, workers sorted through documents at the cal palace but an independent panel has questioned whether state regulators actually had the man power to read through all of the papers that they are requiring pg&e to turn over. the cpuc says they've examined everything so far. but they say a judge will determine the best course of action for any document review moving forward. >>> might be a little more difficult than usual to hail a taxicab this noontime in san francisco. hundreds of the city's taxi drivers are on strike at noon. this is a live picture from city hall, where the cabbies are circling in protest. they are also honkin

the commission continues to move forward on -- the california public utilities commission continues to look forward on how it charges the fees charged to customers. we're hoping it will help the fees to be reduced. that is in the face before the proposed decision even gets -- in the phase before the proposed decision even has an initial ruling. last week as miss hale -- lastly, as ms. hale was noting, we have been sponsoring sp 970 that helps to clarify and clear up a lot of issues with the statutes to make the climate for cca more friendly and to level the playing field. thanks to the good work of miss hale, don weiss, the sierra club, and others, that was able to get through committee as barbara and noted. that is continuing to move forward. we're hoping to get some relief there as well. supervisor campos: commissioner moran? >> to have any idea on when they're likely to act on the fee issue? on the exit fees. >> there is no timeline set that is published. given where things are and having worked at the sfpuc for a number of years, they are taking final briefs. i would expect a decis

the red line is the proposed flat generation rate that pg&e has placed before the california public utilities commission. if adopted as proposed, it will represent an increase for the lower tiered customers. the average residential customer in san francisco is there. there will be a decrease for the higher tiered customers. that is just on the generational component and not the overall bill. that is the component of service that the community choice aggregation service provides. >supervisor mirkarimi: does pg&e have a green tier? >> i am not aware they have a green service offering. they have a climate smart program. it is an offset type of program. they do not have a green portfolio program beyond the standard service. supervisor mirkarimi: it speaks to what i think is a telling and positive outcome in the poll that has 45% of the respondents saying they would prefer to pay more to insure that their electricity is coming from clean, renewable sources like solar and wind. it is nice to capture more than the anecdote that this could beat the traffic that helps us insert towards unleashea niche t pg&e can

california public utility commission announced fine today one of the largest in p uc history. under the agreement pg&e admits the pipe involved in the explosion was not properly pressure tested and was not authorized for gas service either. christmas eve pipeline explosion and fire that resulted in rancho cordoba killed one person and injured 5 others. >>> local politic. there are reports tonight that long time congresswoman license wolf may soon retire. she has represented marin and sonoma county for almost 20 years. she announced news conference for next monday week from today at her home in petaluma. her office will not say l what it is about specifically only that it is about her future plans. but the press democrat said sources indicate she will leave office at the end of her term which is in 2012. incidentally the first draft of her redirecting map that will determine the state new congressional boundary shows that she could lose her seat. >>> lapd prime suspect in the beating of giants fan brine stow outside dodger stadium will have to go back to prison. parole commissi

. >> california public utility commission actually requires us to only invebingt in projects where thehe mitigation measures will be in the future. going fore. very important that those mitigation measures have not already been implemented. >>reporter: utility says contribution will ayous the conservation fund to continue toÑi protect the forest. the fund l unthe agreement that they would harvest some timber to cover the operation cost and manage the property. >> talking about erosion control biologist. you are talking about fire prevention measures taking place. we actually estimate we created about a dozen jobs. >>reporter: pg&e estimates that the conservation fund wouldless 4 and half million dollars without the climate at smart contribution. without that money the fund argues it would have to cut down or treat. >> it is only through program like climate smart that we have been able to reduce harvest even below what we already contemplated. >>reporter: though not doing anything illegal, critic of pg&e say it can do a better job. >> we think it would make a lot of sense and be smart

they can get on a delay list and hold off the smart meter installation until the california public utilities commissionmakes a decision on a radio off option. that means pg&e would install the smart meters, but a meter reader would have to come out to the homes. >> the issue isn't whether pg&e has the authority to shut people's power off for refusing a smart meter because they do have the short. the real issue is what is a smart way to win customer support for smart readers? >> so you don't have to get a smart meter, at least not yet, but you do have to get your name on pg&e's delay list. in the into us room, leslie brinkly, abc news. >> thanks. >>> a disturbing discovery in alameda where chickens were slaughtered over the weekend. they were part of a project. >> those who were raising them are trying to make sense of what happened and why. >> these are the survivors of an attack that left 11 chickens dead. >> i didn't understand what happened at first. when i seen the shovel i was really, really disappointed. it is a terrible thing. >> i just saw him dead and i saw my dad cry. >> they are a community

the california public utilities commission says pg&e admitted it violated safety laws in connection withhe explosions. the violations include installing a gasoline pipe the fines still require final approval of the collisioners of the cup. >>> back in march workers sorted through documents of the cow palace. but an independent panel has requested whetherring are laters have the manpower to read through all it is requiring that pg&e turn over. the dr. puc says they've examenned everything -- the cpu dr. says they've examenned everything -- examined everything. >>> 7:36. this first day of the summer of 2011 is also a spare the dare day. air quality officials say the air could be especially bad today in central and eastern contra costa county. that may cause brighting problems for children and also for people with yaz ma. if you can, you are being asked to avoid driving and put away the charcoal barbecues because this is a spare-the-air-day. can. >>> let's chick in with sal. >> westbound coming up to the tacoma, about a 15, 20-minute delay. this is what the spare the air people would like t

the california public utilities commission announcing that fine today. the largest in cpuc history. pg&e admits the pipe involved was not properly pressure tested, and was not authorized for gas service. the christmas eve pipeline explosion and fire killed one person, injuring five other autos caltrans pleading with all of us to drive more carefully after three caltrans maintenance workers have been hit and killed in two months. and this latest accident happened after caltrans will now post safe driving remainder -- reminders. you'll see those statewide. the department issued what it calls a safety stand down today, stopping all routine maintenance projects. >> we need to refresh safety is our number one priority with staff z need to assess whether or not our safety practices are being followed and want to listen to those employees as to what improvements we can make. >> caltrans crews are all scheduled to resume work tomorrow. and the safety stand down may last several days for other field and office staff. it does not affect major projects like the bay bridge construction effort.

. >> 7:49 a.m., major reforms for pg&e into the california public utilities commission following lastr's deadly pipeline last in san bruno. an independent panel of investigators said the blast resulted from a series of management and oversight weaknesses at pg&e. and also found that the c p u c last resources to monitor the safety work for pg&e and also failed to pay attention to growing concerns for the utility's performance before the blast. last september's explosion killed eight people and destroyed 38 homes in san bruno. two men are convicted of murdering oakland and journalist john c. bailey. the former leader of the black muslim debris that you saw there, use of bailey and antoine mackie were found guilty of the death of mackeyof bailey. the man who confessed of killing bailey was the key witness. hawker >> the dow is off 136 points. we are below the 12,000 mark. the snb is off almost 13 points, the nasdaq is off 28. unless prices turnaround and stocks go sharply higher, we will end this week-making this a the sixth straight losing we. we have not seen that since 2002. we will

get the new controversial meters. 80% of pg&e customers are already using empty the california public utilities commission is currently deciding if some customers can opt out of the transmitting meters. if anybody doesn't want them installed you can be out a delay list. >> firefighters are bracing themselves for a tough summer after two years of heavy rain the grass will be high and it will increasingly dry. crews are taking time to train. they say budget cuts could make it tough. >> cal fire is down to three people on engine companies. even local governs have reduced staff. >> firefighters say property owners should take the time now to trim trees and clear brush and make that defensible clear space around their homes. >>> cal fire started their seasonal operations this week. when we have the high temperatures like we have, they are going away a little bit now. >> they'll be back. >> that the key to forecast, they will be back but it will be next week. carolyn, kind of the down slope as far as temperatures. >> visibility is unlimited everywhere from three miles at half moon bay to 9-10 to the rest of us.

we can't really speculate on any city or council action against the program, the california public utilities commission has jurisdiction over the program. we will continue to work with them to make sure we're addressing those customer issues. >> reporter: pg & e maintains that smart meters are safe. customers can choose to delay having a smart meter installed. but they're going to have to pay a fee for that. if they're interested customers can call the pg & e smart meter hot line. janine de la vega, ktvu channel two news. >>> here is a look at smart meter progress. pg & e received approval in july of 2006. the first meters were installed in november of that same year. by the end of this year, pg & e will have installed 9.8 million meters by the end of this year. >>> danville police say thieves broke in at the veterans memorial building construction site on harts avenue over the weekend. workers noticed the theft when they came to work this morning. the robbers took off with an undisclosed amount of copper wife and tools. danville police want you to call them if you know anything about the weekend break

california looking into it and that group plans to make a presentation tomorrow to the california public utilities commissioning so the explosion is getting a close analysis from enemy angles but many residents would like to get this all fixed and they would like it to be over. >>> checking other top stories, alameda's mayor is calling for an independent investigation into the actions of police and firefighters who stood by while suicidal man drowned on memorial day. an emotional hearing last night residents accuse the city's public safety agencies of incompetence. there is no indication who was to conduct the external review or when it would happen. >> a 17-year-old suspect arrested in the shooting death of an east palo alto baby will find out whether on he will be charged as an adult. the too soon was one of two young men that opened fire on a car. the baby boy was killed. both parents were injured. >> four minutes before 7:00, let's get a final look at weather. >> the clouds hanging around and we have temperatures pretty close to low to mid-50s. san jose, 57. flight arrival delays into sfo check out fligh

the california public utilities commission had given pg & e until tuesday.g & e says it won't be able to deliver those documents until the end of next year. pg & e already could face a $3 million fine for missing another deadline back in mid- march. >> reporter: frank, here at the petaluma marina you see well maintained boat after boat. but further out, parts of the petaluma river are like junk yards. this old barge sitting on if river's edge isn't just an eyesore, state officials say it's also dangerous. they say the barge has been right here for years, the owner has since died leaving behind a thousand tons of debris some of it toxic. >> i found asbestos, pcb, we found other toxins in the paint. >> metals that leak out into the paint and the sediments for these vessels have been abandoned. those end up getting uptaken by aquatic life and they work their way up the food chain. >> reporter: so beginning today, crews from calorie cycle began removing the barge and all the junk on it including this small boat. officials say there are seven other places within

the california public utilities commission said they admitted it violated safety laws in connection with that explosion. that included installing a pipe with thinner walls than allowed for gas lines and failing to test the pressure properly. the fine requires final approval. >> massive sexual discrimination lawsuit against wal-mart has been blocked by the united states supreme court. it started in 2000 when a store greeter claimed she wasn't getting the same opportunities as men. we spoke to that woman today who said she will continue to fight for justice. >> reporter: she started the largest discrimination class action lawsuit in united states history but this morning the court threw it out after a ten year battle. >> definitely today corporate america has won. >> reporter: betty dukes said she and more than a million women who work at wal-mart stores across the country were denied equal pay and jobs promotions back in 2001. the court disagreed saying there were so many women and to many jobs for one lawsuit. >> they have made it possibly harder to raise -- to raise the baron what plain

the california public utilities commission said they admitted it violated safety laws in connection with that explosion. that included installing a pipe with thinner walls than allowed for gas lines and failing to test the pressure properly. the fine requires final approval. >> massive sexual discrimination lawsuit against wal-mart has been blocked by the united states supreme court. it started in 2000 when a store greeter claimed she wasn't getting the same opportunities as men. we spoke to that woman today who said she will continue to fight for justice. >> reporter: she started the largest discrimination class action lawsuit in united states history but this morning the court threw it out after a ten year battle. >> definitely today corporate america has won. >> reporter: betty dukes said she and more than a million women who work at wal-mart stores across the country were denied equal pay and jobs promotions back in 2001. the court disagreed saying there were so many women and to many jobs for one lawsuit. >> they have made it possibly harder to raise -- to raise the baron what plain

the california public utility commission announced the fine yesterday.er the agreement, pg&e admits the pipe involved in the explosion was not properly pressure test and not authorized for gas service. the christmas eve pipeline explosion and fire in rancho cordova killed one person and injured five others. >>> stanford university agreed to wait another month to get final approval for massive expansion of stanford hospital. the $5 billion project has been in the works for four years. and was set to get that approval yesterday when issue pop up. >> they raised concerns over finding out that one of classrooms would have to be demolished to make way for nine-story parking garage. >> it's gotten harder to beat the heat in oakland with a deep in a public pool. budget cut have forced closure of pools. the city live oak pool is set to close july 1. >> being able to swim is a life skill that all people should avail themselves of learning. to have a beautiful approximately in the oakland community that are not open and available to the citizens and the youth of t

the california public utility commissions had ordered pg&e to come up with that information by june 20th. pg&e now has until september 30th to find the paperwork. the utility is already facing a $3 million fine for failing to give the cpuc other records about its gas pipelines in the wake of last year's deadly explosion and fire in sanbruno. and as ktvu consumer editor tom vacar tells us, federal investigators are saying pg&e is not responding fast enough to their demands for information. >> reporter: the head of the ntsb said certain pg&e records demanded months ago about the pipeline that exploded are too slow in coming, especially the most recent one. >> there was a record that they had a leak that was repaired in 1988. it occurred nine miles south of this location. >> i am very dismayed to find that at this late date pg&e is providing the ntsb with what is really critical information. >> we do not know why pg&e did not provide this information to our investigators. i think that's a question that you would have to ask pg&e. >> so we asked pg&e about the leak which it says was small re

customers can get on a delay list and hold off on smart meter installation until the california public utilities commissionakes a decision on a radio-off option. that means that pg&e would install the smart meters, but a meter reader would still have to come out to the moments. >> police are investigating a shooting death of a man in west oakland last night. detectives say the victim was found around 10:00 on 19 street near market. he had been shot many times and died later at a local hospital. police have not identified any suspects. the victim's name has not been released. >>> volunteers hit the streets of oakland yesterday making a statement against violence and trying to help track down a killer. they handed out flyers and t-shirts to gather information about the shooting back on may 29th. 28-year-old latoya kenny and another person died. a third person was critically injured. it happened at a block party near 88th avenue and international boulevard. that's where this rally and flyer drive were held. >> we are out here just trying to get the message out and let people know that her family wants justice

&e customers can get on a delay meeter and hold off on the installation until the california public utilities commission makes a decision on a radio-off option. that means they would install the smart reader but a meter reader would still have to come out to those homes. >> police are investigating a shooting death of a man in west oakland last night. detectives say the victim was found around 10:00 on 19 street near market. he had been shot many times and died later at a local hospital. police have not identified any suspects. the victim's name has not been released. volunteers hit the streets of oakland yesterday to make a statements against violence and to help track down a killer. they handed out flyers and t-shirts to gather information about the shooting back on may 29th. 28-year-old latoya, and another victim, died. a third person was critically injured. it happened across the street from a block party near 88th avenue and international boulevard. that's where the rally yesterday and the flyer drive were held. >> we are out here just trying to get the message out and let people know that her fami

the california public utilities commission had asked for that as part of the investigation of the sanbrunoipeline explosion. >> some victims of that devastating explosion are facing another setback tonight. a financially strapped construction company has left them hanging. and as ktvu's ken pritchett reports, the contractor was on a list approved by pg&e. >> reporter: the owners of this home still wait. still wait to come home to a house fit to live in. it's been almost nine months since the sanbruno explosion. and now it seems they will wait longer. the owners here and four other properties were sent a letter that the company may go out of business. >> that's tearing my heart out because people have work that needs to be done over. >> reporter: she hired them but parted ways quickly. >> we had a couple of misunderstandings and i thought i'm through. you know, i am not dealing with this anymore. >> reporter: she says she's concerned about her neighbors that have paid money to the company and may not be able to afford to hire another contractor. the neighbors say they were on a pg&e list of

the california public utilities commission had asked for that as part of the investigation of the sanbruno pipeline explosion. >> some victims of that devastating explosion are facing another setback tonight. a financially strapped construction company has left them hanging. and as ktvu's ken pritchett reports, the contractor was on a list approved by pg&e. >> reporter: the owners of this home still wait. still wait to come home to a house fit to live in. it's been almost nine months since the sanbruno explosion. and now it seems they will wait longer. the owners here and four other properties were sent a letter that the company may go out of business. >> that's tearing my heart out because people have work that needs to be done over. >> reporter: she hired them but parted ways quickly. >> we had a couple of misunderstandings and i thought i'm through. you know, i am not dealing with this anymore. >> reporter: she says she's concerned about her neighbors that have paid money to the company and may not be able to afford to hire another contractor. the neighbors say they were on a pg&e list

california public utility commission announce the fine today one of the largest in the history. pg&e admits the pipe involved in the explosion was not properly pressure tested and was not authorized for gas service. christmas eve pipeline explosion and fire that resulted in rancho car dob killed one person and injured 5 others. >> cal-trans is pleading with all of us in it to drive more safely because 3 cal-trans maintenance workers have been hit and killed just the past two months. latest accident happened at cal-trans picked up litter. along a san diego highway. cal-trans will now 700 of the electronic highway message signs state wide so you will see those out on the roadway. also issued what it calls a safety stand down toda today. stopping all routine maintenance projects. >> we need to refresh the safety is our no. 1 priority with all our staff. we need to review and assess whether our safety practices and procedures are being followed and we also want to listen to all those employee as to what improvement we can make in the safety practices. >>reporter: now cal-trans maint

customers can get on a delay list and hold off on smart meter installation until the california public utilities commission makes decision on radio off option. >>> you probably noticed that gas prices have been going down. according to the latest lundberg survey, the average price dropped 11 cents in the past few weeks. in california, the average price for regular is $3.82 now. the lowest average price in the state is $3.75 in fresno. the highest price, $3.86 in san francisco. >> different kind of fuel here. imagine pumping a solar-based fuel in your tank. stanford researchers are taking the first step toward making that a reality with a solar panel to make hydrogen and with report on the drive to discover solar gas tank. >> there are times you have extra sunlight and you don't need the electricity. we need fuel to store electricity. we need fuel. >> what if you could submerge solar panels in water to turn the water in to hydrogen instantly? that's what is going on in this lab at stanford university. we've all done the experiment in school. you put two wires in h2o and the "h" comes out of one side and the

california public utilities commission says pg&e admitted it violated safety laws in connection with that explosion. the violations include installing a gas line pipe with thinner walls than allowed and also failing to test the pressure in the pipes adequately. that fine still needs final approval from the commissioners of the cpuc. >>> today the san jose city council is expected to take a final vote on next year's budget. in an effort to close a $115 million budget gap, 500 city jobs are being cut. that includes laying off 100 police officers. one change? mayor chuck reid now says he's delaying a request for the city council to declare official state of emergency in order to force pension reform. that's after five city workers unions agreed to take part in negotiations on retirement reform. >>> and in sacramento there's now a stalemate on the state budget. lawmakers met briefly yesterday, then recessed until thursday. last week they passed a budget by the constitutional deadline, then governor brown vetoed it. republican lawmakers say it's now up to the democrats. democratic leader

the california public utilities commission says pg&e admitted it violated safety laws in connection with that blast. those violations include installing a gas line pipe with thinner walls than allowed and failing to test the pressure properly. that fine still has to be approved by the commissioners of the cpuc. >>> today the san jose city council is expected to take a final vote on next year's budget. in an effort to close $150 million budget gap, 500 city jobs are being cut. that includes laying off 100 police officers. one change, mayor chuck reid now says he's delaying a request for the city council to declare a fiscal state of emergency. now, that would force pension reform. he's changed his mind because five city worker unions agreed to take part in negotiations on retirement reform. >>> time now just turned 6:10. hey, sal, how is that 880 doing? >> reporter: doing pretty well, dave and pam. right now traffic is moving well in both directions on interstate 880 north and southbound here right near the oakland coliseum. northbound traffic continues to look good all the way up to downt

he has been president of the california public utilities commission and even served as director of boeing come into being is telling to the's military complex. he is us, the rare nominee and that is why i say, i hope everybody follows this in politics, whether republican, democrat or independent because john is the rare nominee to present himself to congress with endorsements from the chamber, military suppliers and the nations meeting environmental organization. if ever there was a time for someone who can bring us all together, this is that moment in history. tom donohue said mr. bryson's extensive knowledge and years of experience successfully running a major company makes him qualified. the business roundtable, senator bob byrd read a quote. let me read another one. business around the table called mr. bryson a proven the table called mr. bryson a proven the table called mr. bryson a proven do the commerce department that includes technology, trade, intellectual property and exports, which will be crucial to expanding economy and creating jobs. i noted in your opening statement, john,

public utilities commission. it would be the second largest fine ever levied against a california utility. >>> it's the first day of summer in the bay area and starting out on a dirty note. >> that's right. it's a "spare the air" day, the first one declared for the 2011 hot weather season. the bay area air quality management district issued the alert because of poor air quality thanks to the high temperatures that we're experiencing as well as some other weather conditions. people are urged to use public transportation today and try to avoid pollution-causing activities like barbecuing and using those gas-powered garden tools. >> it was a little hot yesterday but it certainly felt great. >> it did. >> it was nice. if you like that you will like today even more. >> i guess so. we haven't had many days like that. it's looking fantastic. sunshine all the way to the coastline. we are starting out very warm for the bay area. it is 68 degrees right now in san jose. 64 in livermore. 66 in concord. you get the idea. some very mild temperatures to begin with and these numbers are going to be heating up in a hurry, some p

california streets. we will be joined by mayor lee, board of supervisors president david chiu, as well as public utility commission general manager ed harrington. they will all join us for this event. we are also by this announcement inviting you to join us on the 27th for the reopening.

california streets. we will be joined by mayor lee, board of supervisors president david chiu, as well as public utility commission general manager ed harrington. they will all join us for this event. we are also by this announcement inviting you to join us on the 27th for the reopening. earlier, supervisor brinkman mentioned the an exexpress is up and running. we launched on june 13 to relieve overcrowding on the light rail line. this has been in operation a little over a week and we are pleased to report the ridership is growing daily and feedback from our customers is positive and constructive. this service has been a model for what we are considering a proactive line management program and we have achieved record-setting on time performance with the service. also notable with this pilot that the vehicles have special paint schemes and new signage to make the route very simple and recognizable for customers. that seems to have contributed to the growth in rydership. the success has directly translated into reduced crowding and more comfortable conditions on our rail line, and it's helped us with those heavy sto

public utility commission, san francisco water, power, so were for your great work on this project and throughout the head ceci -- throughout the improvement program. we have projects being done across northern californiand it speaks volumes about the puc staff, being able to bring these projects to fruition. these are paid for by our tax dollars. we owe it to the ratepayers to make sure that our public investments are made efficiently and a sound way for the budget. congratulations. i am excited about the track record of the puc on hiring locally in san francisco. for this project alone, we have 60.5% of the residents who are around the area working on this project. we have 6.5% -- it is 27.5%, sorry, much better. 27.5% of the workers are local residents. that is above what our current mandate is for the local hire ordinance that we passed last year at the board of supervisors. i wanted to congratulate you on that effort. 54.5% are from the bay area. 60.5% of the workers are apprenticeships workers, new workers, who are getting new jobs into this industry. the project helps to make that happen. congratulations on that. we are hiring carpenters, cement workers, and landscape professionals. we know we a