or caltech. and i saw that personally when i was trying to get engineering help for my work on "unsafe at any speed." but i never exaggerated their power because i had a very, very realistic view of the power of people. and i realize that corporations, for all their power, they don't have a single vote, and that what members of congress wanted were votes. and so people became alert and they began to realize that it wasn't always the nut behind the wheel in crashes and injuries on the highway, that the engineering systems of highways and vehicles were very critical in minimizing crashes and, if they occurred, minimizing their injuries, such as a seatbelt, then the public interest would prevail. now, that served me pretty well because i had my feet on the ground and i knew i had a lot of work to do. i had to get the technical community behind what we were doing, i had to get it out to the media, i had to have contacts with senators and representatives who remembered where they came from and had a p