cases, to get a quorum, six out of six, and every case they failed to find a violation that miss calvillo presented that failed to find conflicting information was a case like this, where i got five out of six or six out of seven votes, so his calvillo was dishonest, and you took it just hook, link and sinker. now, i'm telling you every board has put these 150 word summaries in their minutes. last month, you gave her permission to not do that. based on what, i don't know. she's never discussed it before the board. >> any further public comment on the minutes? all right. we have a motion. it's been seconded. all in favor of approving the minutes, please say aye. the minutes are approved unanimously. what we're going to do next in deference of supervisor kim who has joined us is take a matter out of order, and that is we're going to go to agenda item 8, and we're going to take item 8ha2 -- 2aii. >> i'm sorry, agenda item 2, ii, which is