remember when we first started on the show, calvillo basement box with calvillo in basement box with first night, neil oliver was neil benjamin button with just speaking in about fascinating social positioning of kate forbes and i think you've met her you know her little bit i mean she's certainly a she would certainly be a change from sturgeon, wouldn't she, in terms of pushing some of these extreme social ideologies . but i social ideologies. but yeah, i mean to be of a matter once mean just to be of a matter once for a few minutes, we both attended same memorial attended the same memorial service for a scottish battle from the jacobite rebellions, and we spent a just a few minutes in each other's company . she's a very nice woman, a very personable , you know , nice, very personable, you know, nice, pleasant, to easy get along with. i would have thought. and you know, i can i could well understand that she would be an appealing candidate for the for snp first minister and snp and for first minister and also , you know, she's got also, you know, she's she's got very traditional val