have the same anxiety like if it were a different system i would have gotten into harvard or cambrid cambridge. so i chose them delivered to flee because of that. in other research i've got a harvartheharvard degree i can mn but it doesn't matter. i feel like higher education is changing dramatically. well we had a credentialing system, i don't know what the next thing is going to be. i don't know that i can speak to that given this research, but it is an important question. >> you illustrated this incredible tension that the students talked about in terms of the diversity. so first, it has to be something that has a demand for integration. we are diverse but we must interact otherwise at the same time you cannot be too much like the mainstream. if you are too much the mainstream, then you're not actually favor. it makes me think of the literature on the diversity how the suburbs will be into this diversity and what they mean on black and latino. so i was wondering in the interviews, how did students reconcile or did they reconcile the diversity meaning that paradoxical elements. >> i think it