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joining us right now is cameron mitchell, the founder and ceo of cameron mitchell restaurants.aurants are pretty high-end, expensive, luxury restaurants. the word we have been getting from people recently, at least in new york city and maybe l.a., too, is that consumers are spending more at restaurants, willing to spend more on alcohol than they had been in the past. what are you seeing? >> well, i think for us in particular we're seeing a little bit of movement from our fine dining restaurants down to our more polished, casual brands. we're down about 5% year to date to sales. now, we're we're up in our more casual brands. so, it's going to finish the year up about 1% in sales. but, we're seeing some shift. and people are just spending a little bit less and not going out for that fine dining experience as often as we would have hoped. >> does that break down regionally? i know you have restaurants in places like ohio, florida, lots of other states, too. but is it different region by region? >> there is some fluidity to that, but fine dining in particular, you know, monday and

cameron now, because i'm often in number 10 downing street when they leave cabinet, cameron always leaves with mitchellut with mitchell knows that mitchell because he knows that because his weakness, he's not not in the house of commons. he's walking mitchell. he's he's walking with mitchell. >> andrew mitchell is his deputy. effectively he answers for the house as it for him in the house as it comes. smarter comes. yes. he's a smarter politician. yes cameron politician. yes he is cameron and he knows how to capture the limelight and the camera. he's so he's also funny. >> we always a throwaway remarks. i saw him on the his first cabinet and we had lunch in the carlton club, the home of the tory party in mayfair. way. we walked and we have to be. he walked in and said, chopper, you? said, oh, chopper, how are you? and enjoy that? and i said, did you enjoy that? you emerging and all the you know, emerging and all the all the shouts from the, the cameramen the and stuff. and cameramen and the and stuff. and he said, yeah, really he said, yeah, it's really funny because shouted at me, because someone shou