." >> narrator: their neighbor, 23- year-old cameron todd willingham, was in the house with his three children when the fire started. >> a call came across the scanner. there was a house fire with possibly people trapped in it. >> i remember my mom screaming, "go back in, go, go try to get the babies." >> and i grabbed him, and i said, "is there anybody in the house?" he said, "yes, my twins are in that room right there." well, i went in the front door, and i went to the left, and that's as far as i could get. it was completely engulfed in fire. >> i pulled up on the scene, got out, immediately started stretching the fire line. i made entry into the house through the front windows, knocking the fire down as i went. >> the first fire fighter came out, he was cradling a small child in his arms, and he began to drop to one knee. and as he began to drop to one knee, the little girl's arm just... just fell limp right at her side, just, you know, just like a little rag doll. >> i went back to the fire room looking for the children. at that time, chief fogg was in there, and he had already l

this particular film focussing on the case of a man named cameron todd willingham who was convicted ofin a house fire in course crsicana corsicana, texas, sfentenced to death, but afterwards, investigators found no evidence of arson in the home. willingham's defense as no evidence of a lack of arson was denied. rick perry was the one that denied it to him, rick perry called him a monster. this man was executed in 2004 by our nation in the state of texas. and with us now and joe bailey,f "incendiary" about the toxic mix of law, science, and politics in this case. i'll start in a little bit of a different order. rick perry and the sort of applause line in the debates has gone to the political appeal of the justice administering cowboy, who's not going to take any crap. and how do you reconcile the appeal of that character with the collateral damage that becomes, whether it's this case or other cases, whether individuals who perhaps are not guilty or are not guilty as charged, because the collateral damage of cowboy politicians, who are playing to that cowboy energy, that yippie-ki-yay en