that's the only deal. >> bill: what do you think though, cammeron?ook, they both say the other won't negotiate. i mean, -- >> -- dead in the water. nothing happened today. and we are no close tore reopening the government. it's not going to happen this week. it may spill into next week. then we are beginning to push that middle of the month october 17th deadline. republicans think that is going to create some sort of pressure that will inspire democrats to compromise. democrats, the president, and the democratic leadership and the rank and file say for a month they are not going to negotiate period. clearly democrats got republicans cornered and not likely to give them any sort of mercy by offering a compromise. >> bill: i think the republicans, rosen, have offered some compromises, but then the reply back from the president and, of course, pelosi and reid take their cue from him, is well we are not going to renegotiate obama care. it's the law of the land. the supreme court said it was good and we are going to go with it we don't care if it works or

that's the only deal. >> bill: what do you think though, cammeron? they both say the other won't negotiate. i mean, -- >> -- dead in the water. nothing happened today. and we are no close tore reopening the government. it's not going to happen this week. it may spill into next week. then we are beginning to push that middle of the month october 17th deadline. republicans think that is going to create some sort of pressure that will inspire democrats to compromise. democrats, the president, and the democratic leadership and the rank and file say for a month they are not going to negotiate period. clearly democrats got republicans cornered and not likely to give them any sort of mercy by offering a compromise. >> bill: i think the republicans, rosen, have offered some compromises, but then the reply back from the president and, of course, pelosi and reid take their cue from him, is well we are not going to renegotiate obama care. it's the law of the land. the supreme court said it was good and we are going to go with it we don't care if it works or not

you guys get to see baier, cammeron, rosen and whoever else we can dredge up. have to say in my analysis of the whole thing. i think everybody, bret, and you are involved with this. i think everybody has come out looking badly. boehner may now be getting standing ovations from the guys that he has to caucus with and all of that. i don't think anybody won here. i really don't. >> you are exactly right. i mean, listen, the president took a hill. he had the lowest approval rating according to the associated press at 37%. didn't get talked about a lot. a lot of the talk was about the polls that hit republicans and clearly they were hit hard in poll after poll. >> yeah p yep. >> but you are right. washington took a big hit. >> and the president. the president took a huge hit. he didn't lead. and i'm not saying this in any kind of ideological way. this could have been done in august. he didn't, you know. >> bill, you just hit it right on the head. these guys took august off we knew in july hit deadlines. now we are in october. mostly what this bill does is punt to bu

what's the latest on the political struggle cammeron in congress? is there any change? have to compromise sometime. what are you you hearing? >> new talk of another short-term extension on the debt limit. the idea is it would give them more time to continue negotiating the thing that they for years have not been able to resolve. apart from that sort of alice in wonderland though what down is up and what is small is big. republicans who have wanted for years small government are now fighting to reopen it and democrats who say they love and celebrate government and want to expand it with the affordable care act are fighting basically to keep it closed. the house republicans keep passing bills to open up part of the partially closed government and democrats keep on killing him in the senate and saying they are refusing to negotiate. that's a risky part about it. >> that's my question is what about the american people here? because, if you continue to punish the folks by keeping the government shut, the folks are going to get angry at you. >> correct. >> bill: i don't think

so, cammeron what do you think is going to happen in the senate after marco rubio introduces the bill>> the president's initial reaction is going to be to oppose any sort of delay some of his supporters on the hill back him up. he is going to be under pressure and it grew a lot today. senator shaheen wrote a letter to the president yesterday saying that she thinks it's time to look at extending the deadline of enrollment and perhaps putting off the individual mandate. she is running for re-election next year and considered one of the vulnerable types. west virginia democratic senator joe manchin said is he going to support some sort of a delay and may in fact come up with his own bill to delay it for a year. >> let me interrupt for a minute. we have the senator on in about 7 minutes on the program. >> he will be pleased to learn when he sits down with you there bill that he has a couple of new supporters already. mark prior the senator from arkansas and mark begich vulnerable in next year's re-elections said they too support delay. >> four i understand you need six for this to pass in

we will have the inside story from ed henry, carl cammeron and james rosen.

we will have the inside story from ed henry, carl cammeron and james rosen.