. >> campagnoli. >> aye. >> and president tan? >> aye. >> you have your permit. congratulations. >> good luck with that. it sounds great. >> so our next applicant, is actually human video game, which i think that we would like to continue? >> yes. >> so, if i could just entertain a motion to continue this until the next meeting? >> so moved. >> second? >> on the motion. >> a second first? >> second. >> got it. >> anxious. >> akers. >> aye. >> hyde. >> aye. >> joseph. ae. aye. >> lee. >> aye. >> tan. >> aye. >> campagnoli. >> aye. >> and third up is ronnie lau doing business as horizon and 498 broad way and i believe that they are asking for a bill ard permit and a mechanical device. >> i got to go. >> i am taking a break on this one. >> steve is stepping out. >> all right. >> go ahead. >> and so they have been out there on broad way for about 6 years. and no problems and they are asking to have the additional and want to add the pool table and three mechanical amusement devices. >> ronnie would you like to come up and say hello to us? >> good evening commissioner

. >> commissioner campagnoli. >> aye. >> and tan. >> aye. >> could you signal steve, someone? >> and i think that someone will do it. >> let's just move on. and so, for the next applicant is sycamore tim ryan who would like to amend his limited live performance permit. >> as you may know, the limited live performance permit changed slightly in july and now it covers outdoor spaces when it came last year to get the limited live permit it did not include outdoor, it did have neighbors that had concerns and specifically asked that music not be outdoors. now, that the limited live does allow for outdoor use, he would like to see if that could be applied. so, the staff would do with it but because it expressly said on his permit not to have outdoor music that is why we are bringing it to you this time. >> great. >> thank you. >> is mr. ryan here? >> or someone representing mr. ryan? >> no. >> interesting. >> was he here earlier? >> i don't know. >> i know that he posted for ten days, so i guess that i will let him know to come back next time. >> it sounds like we need to take a mot

. >> commissioner campagnoli? >> it is very clear that the public is not safe with you. pretty clear to me. and if it were up to me, i would make this stimulations even worse. and so, i am interested in seeing, in seeing, what your response that is all that i have to say. >> so i would like to entertain a motion... >> i am sorry. >> i have a question. >> after your comment commissioner akers. >> so, i mean, and i'm new to the commission, so what i don't understand is we have this 180 day period and then at what happens during that period? how is the club evaluated? you know? how are we involved in that process? and how are the police involved in that process? >> sometimes when there is we call it a cool down. during this time, they have a chance to kind of regroup, and they could still open and they are not closing them down, but of course the entertainment is limited. so to still do happy hour events and things like that. and then, reevaluate their own policy, and because sometimes, you know, it has to come to this, otherwise, they have been working together with the po

commissioner lee and then commissioner campagnoli. >> do you want to go first? >> yes. >> campagnoli and then lee. >> good evening. >> and from what i hear, it sounds like it is just getting worse. and you met with the captain, very early this year, and our executive director reconditioned it, your permit already. and i don't think that you have been complying with those. and now, these new incidents have occurred. it is not good business. and it is not good business. and i mean, i am just going to point out that this one. and this is dated june 4th. permit holder requires security to patrol 100 feet in every direction, including the crosswalks around the club for 30 minutes after the venue closes each night and until all patrons have left the area including cross the street where pat trons congregate once the club is closed. what happened on the 15th? >> there was 20, 30, people fighting out on the street. right there on turk. right there, where were you guys? you didn't call the police? you were patrolling, and that was before 2:00 >> i could speak to that my

. >> commissioner campagnoli? >> aye. >> commissioner lee. >> joseph. >> aye. >> hyde. >> aye. >> akers. >> aye. >> tan. >> aye. >> this item has been delayed for several meetings, it is the discussion and possible action about a neighborhood out reach policy for this commission and for all permit seekers. so, i am going to pass it to commissioner hyde who has been chairing and leading this effort. >> yeah. thank you president tan. so, i would like to set this to a small time limit so that we can keep this a lively act and so what i am going to do is i am going to read over it and i think that each commissioner could have two minutes for comments, if they wish, and then, we will have a final discussion. and try to keep it into 20 minutes. so i am just going to quickly read over them and just talk about why i did this. and the hearing change is in honor of jose saria who passed away who was a great queer leader and used the entertainment to the best of his ability. and i believe that the information that is already

commissioner campagnoli. >> present. >> lee. >> here. >> hyde. >> here. >> president tan. >> here. >> for the record commissioner akers is absent this evening. >> great, so the first item on our agenda today is public comment. this is public comment for the public to address the commission on any items of interest that are not currently on the agenda. if you have something to say about coming -- something on the agenda, otherwise wait until that time. >> hi, i live in district 6, i watch you all the time on tv. i don't always just come down, but pay very close attention on tv. i want to thank you for asking hard-pressing questions to people that are trying to get in entertainment license. and the hard debate on the last time i saw you on tv. it was really worth y'all doing that to make sure that everything is done right. so thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> any additional public comment? >> it's up there. up now. >> seeing none, public comment is now closed. moving on to item 2, review and approval of the minutes of august 6, 2013. are there any comments from the commission? c

. >> commissioner lee, or campagnoli? >> thank you. >> thank you, captain. and i really appreciate your coming down and explaining in detail, what has been going on. and we recognize the significance, and besides the limitation on the hours, for 180 days, at midnight, what about the days of operation? >> would you... >> well, i think that currently there are permit is uncorrect as the hours of operation is 7 days a week. and i would think, i think that i would be okay with the 12, but still allow for the 7 days to see where it goes, rather than stipulate, most of our incidents are on friday and saturday night but i know that is when they generate business too, and i don't want to impact that severely as well. >> you are being very generous, considering what is going on. i mean this place sounds pretty much out of control. okay. thank you captain. >> any other comments? >> thank you. >> i have one more question. do you feel that there are neighborhood influences around the area that aggravate the problems that noble is having? >> i don't think that the neighb

. >> campagnoli. >> aye. >> tan. >> aye. >> thank you commissioners. and all right, so we are going to move on to item number 4 and the report from the executive director, thank you for everyone here who is a permit applicant that is waiting patiently. >> commissioners, good evening. i will be quick. i think that they handed out to you a separate piece of paper with my memorandum. and quickly, i wanted to update the commission on the latest appeal, and on august 20th, the commission amended the llp permit for jones which is located at 620 jones to allow for longer hours and days in doors with a limited sound outdoors and, this decision was appealed to the board of appeals and staff successfully represented the department at an appeal hearing on september 11th and so the actions were upheld, and so far we have a perfect record at the board of appeals. cross your fingers. >> i wanted to update the commissioners who are not present that we did in fact have the healthcare workshop on the 9th of september. and which with the help of the actor's son, we held