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i think supervisor campos' record is clear. he has been the vice chair of the transportation authority and he has also worked with numerous communities on transportation justice issues. i want to speak to another issue which is incredibly critical. going into the next year or so, mtc have been engaged in a critical issue called sb-375, which is literally going to impact and change the face of san francisco by trying to use regional planning to impose a density requirement on san francisco. i think these questions are incredibly critical for low income communities, particularly those who have reached transit corridors. district 9 is certainly a district where we have incredibly rich transit corridors, particularly around mission boulevard. i think it is incredibly critical for a supervisor who was in that district, which are going to be severely impacted by this regionalization of land use, to be on the metropolitan transportation commission, so i strongly support supervisor campus. thank you. supervisor kim: thank you, mr. youn
i think supervisor campos' record is clear. he has been the vice chair of the transportation authority and he has also worked with numerous communities on transportation justice issues. i want to speak to another issue which is incredibly critical. going into the next year or so, mtc have been engaged in a critical issue called sb-375, which is literally going to impact and change the face of san francisco by trying to use regional planning to impose a density requirement on san francisco. i...
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supervisor campos: any questions? any specific highlights in the agreement, in terms of what it does? >> it is a bic agreement, it allows for -- thick agreement, it allows the nonprofit to operate for five and half years. it includes all of the city requirements for contracts with nonprofits for this purpose. supervisor campos: great. why don't we open it up to public comment. is there anyone from the public that would like to comment on this item? you have three minutes. >> that was three minutes? supervisor campos: yes. >> it shows two on my counter. thank you. douglas yepp. i have been living in santa scope for 35 years. i would like to speak on item one. -- san francisco 435 years. even when i have had business meetings on mission street, i am forced to do it in the daytime because i cannot afford to be an innocent victim in the ninth time. i think this is well in order. if people like me cannot afford to be on the street at night, i hate to think if you were a regular citizen going back and forth on mission stree
supervisor campos: any questions? any specific highlights in the agreement, in terms of what it does? >> it is a bic agreement, it allows for -- thick agreement, it allows the nonprofit to operate for five and half years. it includes all of the city requirements for contracts with nonprofits for this purpose. supervisor campos: great. why don't we open it up to public comment. is there anyone from the public that would like to comment on this item? you have three minutes. >> that...
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supervisor campos: next speaker? -- take a good look. supervisor campos: next speaker? >> we work closely with supervisor maxwell and were able to get the first electric resource plan accomplished in 2002. it is a very ambitious plan, but it laid out some direction because we have no resource plan up until that time. it called for the construction that i could argue would be a very good thing for san francisco to have. they would not have ever run except in emergencies. i am not here to discuss that one. i am here to ask that lafco look at this report that has been massaged. it always had an element of cca. rocky mountain institute identified that as an option. language has been strengthened. we could continue to work on this thing for another four or five years. you might end up muddying the water of cca. there is room for tweaks. generally speaking, this is a very well thought out document. and the clean energy stewards. we appreciate the vote of confidence in this report. supervisor campos: public comment is closed. supervisor mirkarimi: thank you, mr. chair. i have
supervisor campos: next speaker? -- take a good look. supervisor campos: next speaker? >> we work closely with supervisor maxwell and were able to get the first electric resource plan accomplished in 2002. it is a very ambitious plan, but it laid out some direction because we have no resource plan up until that time. it called for the construction that i could argue would be a very good thing for san francisco to have. they would not have ever run except in emergencies. i am not here to...
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supervisor campos: thank you. we have 13 youth from the bernal heights neighborhood center and three youth from mission girls. i would ask them to come up. you each have two minutes. i want to make sure you get home in time to do your homework and everything you need to do to make sure you do well in school tomorrow. if i can ask those young people to please come forward, you each have two minutes. and if you would like to bundle your testimony and maybe speak, not individually, but as a group, that is also appropriate. >> hello. how are you guys doing today? i wanted to just say thank you so much for having some time for us. my name is aylid. i am the coordinator for the youth employment and education program at the omi. i have a lot of youth that will come up here and be speaking. i and the part-time public safety coordinator at the excelsior and bernal heights neighborhood center. we want community policing to involve community members, and it should have partners with community-based organizations. as an integ
supervisor campos: thank you. we have 13 youth from the bernal heights neighborhood center and three youth from mission girls. i would ask them to come up. you each have two minutes. i want to make sure you get home in time to do your homework and everything you need to do to make sure you do well in school tomorrow. if i can ask those young people to please come forward, you each have two minutes. and if you would like to bundle your testimony and maybe speak, not individually, but as a group,...
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supervisor campos: questions? the treatment that community choice aggregation has under the plan, i am wondering if you can speak to that. >> many of the goals are consistent with the cca goals and vice versa. there is a reference at page 79 of the report is something we have discussed that is not part of the clean energy program other than -- it is one that we are looking at a product that might cost more. it would be having a significant greener products than what currently be provided. there are a lot of good things to say about the energy resource plan and that is consistent with our goals. >> are you satisfied this plan suffices in terms of what it would mean a long term for the city and county of san francisco? >> i believe so. supervisor campos: thank you. any other questions? why don't we open it up to public comment? >> good afternoon again, commissioners. as you know, it was called for a couple years ago by supervisor maxwell and others because we needed a new one. i would respectfully disagree a little
supervisor campos: questions? the treatment that community choice aggregation has under the plan, i am wondering if you can speak to that. >> many of the goals are consistent with the cca goals and vice versa. there is a reference at page 79 of the report is something we have discussed that is not part of the clean energy program other than -- it is one that we are looking at a product that might cost more. it would be having a significant greener products than what currently be provided....
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supervisor campos: thank you. -- work plan for 2010. supervisor campos: thank you. this item basically approves the work plan for the coming year, allocating hours for the calendar year 2011. it authorizes the budget and legislative analyst to reallocate up to 10% of the hours, based on the board of supervisors service needs, and it also requires board of supervisors approval if there is such a reallocation. this item would then go before the board of supervisors for approval. if we have anyone from the budget analyst who would like to present. >> good morning. supervisor campos gave a good overview of what this motion would do. under our contract with -- the budget and legislative analyst contract, we are simple -- required to submit performance goals. we did provide a letter to accompany this motion that lays out our performance goals for the year. at the end of the year, we would get a performance evaluation by members of the board of supervisors. i can walk through the goals if you would like, just briefly. the goals cover our main areas of work, which are our l
supervisor campos: thank you. -- work plan for 2010. supervisor campos: thank you. this item basically approves the work plan for the coming year, allocating hours for the calendar year 2011. it authorizes the budget and legislative analyst to reallocate up to 10% of the hours, based on the board of supervisors service needs, and it also requires board of supervisors approval if there is such a reallocation. this item would then go before the board of supervisors for approval. if we have anyone...
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supervisor campos: again, thank you. we are trying to hear from the youth who have to speak so i can go home and do their homework. any other youth that like to speak, please come forward. it >> i would just like to say that we are from the western addition. even though there is a lot of police interaction, sometimes it is more negative than positive, and we would rather have more positive interaction, not like harassment, we want interaction, positive. thank you. >> thank you. just as she said, although we see the police interacting in the neighborhood, we like to see more what the youth when we put on summer offense. we would like to see participation from them also -- when we put on summer events. >> i just want to say that if we're going to depend on the police to keep us safe or rely on them, we should be able to talk to them and be able to trust them. >> hi, i am aiesha, and i think if the police want a better interaction with the youth, they should not harass them. and, yeah. >> hello. my name is chardonnay. super
supervisor campos: again, thank you. we are trying to hear from the youth who have to speak so i can go home and do their homework. any other youth that like to speak, please come forward. it >> i would just like to say that we are from the western addition. even though there is a lot of police interaction, sometimes it is more negative than positive, and we would rather have more positive interaction, not like harassment, we want interaction, positive. thank you. >> thank you. just...
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commissioner campos: ok. thank you. >> i might as well talk briefly about the authority's commitment to the project. $132 million is the current commitment. that is comprised of prop k funds, state traffic congestion relief funds. the prop k money is there. all that remains is the state funds that have not gone to the program. briefly, we have $19.7 million in local programs. there are some eligibility issues. there is a $30 million writ commitment. these programs are all available in 2012 and 2013. we will probably bring that action to you, hopefully next time. the very last part of this action is on page 55 and 56 of your memo. it has to do with reprogramming actions. this basically refers to deobligating funds. the first category that is affected is the muni funds. $18.7 million are being deallocated. this is possible through the common nation of $9 million in savings -- to the combination of $9 million in savings and also in she was lucky to get a $35 million grant from the federal government. that gives
commissioner campos: ok. thank you. >> i might as well talk briefly about the authority's commitment to the project. $132 million is the current commitment. that is comprised of prop k funds, state traffic congestion relief funds. the prop k money is there. all that remains is the state funds that have not gone to the program. briefly, we have $19.7 million in local programs. there are some eligibility issues. there is a $30 million writ commitment. these programs are all available in...
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supervisor campos: president chiu? supervisor chiu: could you tell us again, the hours that individual board members have -- they come out of the budget analysis? >> they come out of the performance -- what we are recommending to give flexibility to everyone is -- last year, we had two buckets. i believe we had 1000 hours for special requests and another 4500 hours for projects approved through a motion of the full board. what we would like to do for 2011 is combine those hours and maintain it at the 5500 hours but allow a little more flexibility, whether the request comes from an individual member or a motion. instead of having a restricted motion -- restricted number for an individual -- because we found we had to be very flexible last year -- is that each request would be limited to 150 hours. after that, you would either have to go before the board, which we had an example of that happening in 2010 -- supervisor chiu: i guess if you're saying last year was 1000 hours for specific legislative requests, another 4500
supervisor campos: president chiu? supervisor chiu: could you tell us again, the hours that individual board members have -- they come out of the budget analysis? >> they come out of the performance -- what we are recommending to give flexibility to everyone is -- last year, we had two buckets. i believe we had 1000 hours for special requests and another 4500 hours for projects approved through a motion of the full board. what we would like to do for 2011 is combine those hours and...
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. >> supervisor campos? supervisor campos: i want to follow up on that. look, i'm trying to understand what the analysis from the planning department actually is. you're saying on one hand it's speculative to talk about whether or not there's displacement here but one of the questions i have is whether or not the refitting is also speculative in the sense you're making an assumption about state law. you are making an assumption that in fact the provisions of the development agreement that provide certain protections are in fact enforceable. and to me, i don't want to delve into the legality or illegality of that, you i think that's still a question mark so i wonder if you can address that issue, because to the extent you're talking about speculation, it seems there is speculation underlying the very analysis that you're relying on. >> phil waco of the planning department. i think all we're assuming is the development agreement is a contract between parties that is binding. in the absence of anybody making a determination that it's not binding, we're treat
. >> supervisor campos? supervisor campos: i want to follow up on that. look, i'm trying to understand what the analysis from the planning department actually is. you're saying on one hand it's speculative to talk about whether or not there's displacement here but one of the questions i have is whether or not the refitting is also speculative in the sense you're making an assumption about state law. you are making an assumption that in fact the provisions of the development agreement that...
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supervisor campos: thank you very much. i do not know if you have anything else in your presentation. i would like to give an opportunity to the department of public health, commissioner melara from the health commission. i know a number of steps have been taken. i have certainly spoken to our public health director, who has made it clear she is serious, has been serious, as your department, to make sure that all proper procedures are followed, and that the findings of the audit are addressed, and a number of steps have already been taken. i do not know, commissioner, if you want to come up, and talk about everything that the health commission has already done to address these issues. part of this process is not only identify what has happened, but also an opportunity for the public to know all the steps you have taken. >> absolutely, supervisor campos, my name is sonia melara, the vice-president of the health commission, also the chair of the joint conference committee of the laguna honda hospital. i am here to let you kno
supervisor campos: thank you very much. i do not know if you have anything else in your presentation. i would like to give an opportunity to the department of public health, commissioner melara from the health commission. i know a number of steps have been taken. i have certainly spoken to our public health director, who has made it clear she is serious, has been serious, as your department, to make sure that all proper procedures are followed, and that the findings of the audit are addressed,...
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chairperson campos: file. without objection, madam clerk, -- clerk, you can call out item eight. >> item eight, executive office report. >> i have no report for this meeting. chairperson campos: thank you. is there any public comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. madam clerk, you can call item had nine? >> item nine, public comment for items not on the agenda. chairperson campos: is there any member of the public who would like to speak on any item that's not on the agenda but within the jurisdiction of lafco? seeing none, public comment is closed. you can call item number 10 >> item number 10, future agenda items. chairperson campos: colleagues, any future agenda items? any member of the public who would like to speak on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. madam clerk, next item. >> item number 1 1, adjournment. chairperson campos: we are adjourned. thank you all for your time and enjoy your weekend. >> i work with the department of environment and we are recycling oil. th
chairperson campos: file. without objection, madam clerk, -- clerk, you can call out item eight. >> item eight, executive office report. >> i have no report for this meeting. chairperson campos: thank you. is there any public comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. madam clerk, you can call item had nine? >> item nine, public comment for items not on the agenda. chairperson campos: is there any member of the public who would like to speak on any item...
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supervisor campos: questions? the treatment that community choice aggregation has under the plan, i am wondering if you can speak to that. >> many of the goals are consistent with the cca goals and vice versa. there is a reference at page 79 of the report is something we have discussed that is not part of the clean energy program other than -- it is one that we are looking at a product that might cost more. it would be having a significant greener products than what currently be provided. there are a lot of good things to say about the energy resource plan and that is consistent with our goals.
supervisor campos: questions? the treatment that community choice aggregation has under the plan, i am wondering if you can speak to that. >> many of the goals are consistent with the cca goals and vice versa. there is a reference at page 79 of the report is something we have discussed that is not part of the clean energy program other than -- it is one that we are looking at a product that might cost more. it would be having a significant greener products than what currently be provided....
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commissioner campos: thank you. next speaker please. if there is any member of the public that would like to speak, please come forward. >> good morning. my name is natalie, a health policy student and emt. i am glad to know my concern for pedestrian safety is felt throughout the city. i understand in a string of safety is a concern in every neighborhood, but i want to specifically emphasized the need for improvements on the east side of the broadway tunnel. having lived near the tunnel for 20 years, i have witnessed many accidents, including one in which a vehicle lost control, drove onto the sidewalk and his the store from other longtime merchant. fortunately, this accident took place in the early morning hours. in another accident, five parked cars were damaged outside of an elementary school by a speeding vehicle. fortunately again, this was early morning and known was injured. just this morning on that corner there was a vehicle accident to another vehicle, when children were present. despite the lack of injury in these examples, t
commissioner campos: thank you. next speaker please. if there is any member of the public that would like to speak, please come forward. >> good morning. my name is natalie, a health policy student and emt. i am glad to know my concern for pedestrian safety is felt throughout the city. i understand in a string of safety is a concern in every neighborhood, but i want to specifically emphasized the need for improvements on the east side of the broadway tunnel. having lived near the tunnel...
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i will be supporting supervisor campos. as much as i like supervisors to volunteer to serve on communities, seniority is one of the rules we have in place and i will be respecting that. supervisor elsbernd: just for kicks, i am the most senior, if seniority is the rule of the day, i am more than happy to consider that. we will see where things lie when we get to the board. it is good to know that seniority is important. supervisor kim: is there a motion? you made the motion? seconded. roll call on the motion to amend? >> supervisor can? supervisor kim: no. >> supervisor elsbernd? supervisor elsbernd: aye. supervisor farrell: aye. >> thank you, the motion passes. supervisor kim: we will move to continue this to the next meeting. i may call for a special rules committee hearing to hear this earlier. thank you. madam clerk, would you call item no. 2, please? >> item 2, resolution confirming the appointment of carter rataon to serve on the transbay joint powers authority. supervisor kim: any public comment? seeing none, public
i will be supporting supervisor campos. as much as i like supervisors to volunteer to serve on communities, seniority is one of the rules we have in place and i will be respecting that. supervisor elsbernd: just for kicks, i am the most senior, if seniority is the rule of the day, i am more than happy to consider that. we will see where things lie when we get to the board. it is good to know that seniority is important. supervisor kim: is there a motion? you made the motion? seconded. roll call...
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my name is david campos, the chair of the committee. i am joined by committee vice chair commissioner carmen chu as well as committee member scott wiener. commissioners john avalos, david chiu are in route. the clerk of the committee is erica chang. covering the meeting for sfgtv r charles and mark. please call item 2. >> item 2. approve the minutes of the january 11, 2011 meeting. this is an action item. commissioner campos: colleagues, we have the meeting before you. any comments or changes to the minute meetings? is there anyone from the public that would like to comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. can we have a motion on that item? motion by commissioner wiener, seconded by commissioner chu. we can take that without objection. we have been joined by commissioner david chiu. madam court, please call item 3. >> item 3. citizens advisory committee report. this is an information item. commissioner campos: we have glenn davis of the citizens advisory committee reporting to us. >> good morning, commissioners. two
my name is david campos, the chair of the committee. i am joined by committee vice chair commissioner carmen chu as well as committee member scott wiener. commissioners john avalos, david chiu are in route. the clerk of the committee is erica chang. covering the meeting for sfgtv r charles and mark. please call item 2. >> item 2. approve the minutes of the january 11, 2011 meeting. this is an action item. commissioner campos: colleagues, we have the meeting before you. any comments or...
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commissioner campos: thank you. i am certainly interested in that. maybe we can share that with all members of the committee. thank you. anything else? commissioner avalos: the question around where the work is, in terms of looking at daly city bart. >> we have another power point set up for you. i will defer to my planning partner for that. >> good morning, mr. terra, commissioners, mr. milosevic. thank you for having me today. i want to give you a brief overview of this proposal. this morning, i'm going to give you some background to the proposal and discuss service options available, sfmta service preferred routes, and the actions part is currently undertaking, and the next apps as well. as you know, sfmta has always been supportive of this proposal. it has been reflected in various documents in the past, but especially now in the transit effect of this project -- effectiveness project. at this time, unfortunately, we are not able to come up with a near-term proposal because of the current budget situation, adjus
commissioner campos: thank you. i am certainly interested in that. maybe we can share that with all members of the committee. thank you. anything else? commissioner avalos: the question around where the work is, in terms of looking at daly city bart. >> we have another power point set up for you. i will defer to my planning partner for that. >> good morning, mr. terra, commissioners, mr. milosevic. thank you for having me today. i want to give you a brief overview of this proposal....
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commissioner campos: questions or comments? is there anyone from the public that would like to comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioner david chiu. commissioner chiu: thank you. with regard to the plug in my district, i would be happy to reappoint wendy tran. before becoming a member of the cac, she was involved in a variety of different constituencies, in particular, regarding chinese communities. she has kept many of us informed about the work they're doing. she is also someone that i run into on muni from time to time, so she is definitely riding the ride. commissioner campos: we have a motion from david chiu. seconded by commissioner avalos. can we take that without objection? thank you. congratulations and thank you for your service. with respect to the district 6 representative, we will see that item at a future meeting. please call item five. >> item 5. report by the san francisco municipal transportation agency on 14-mission switchbacks and the potential extension of the 14-mission muni
commissioner campos: questions or comments? is there anyone from the public that would like to comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioner david chiu. commissioner chiu: thank you. with regard to the plug in my district, i would be happy to reappoint wendy tran. before becoming a member of the cac, she was involved in a variety of different constituencies, in particular, regarding chinese communities. she has kept many of us informed about the work they're doing....
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[applause] supervisor campos: a queue. one of the recurring themes we're hearing from the speakers -- thank you. one of the recurring themes we're hearing from the speakers is the the programs are literally saving lives. how do we deal with that as a city? last year, we added about about $1.7 million in violence prevention funding. there is a real danger that a lot of that will be eliminated t. how do we deal with that? what happens in our community? >> i am with the health department. i wanted to talk about the community-based organizations. we have several hundred organizations. it represents about half a billion dollars for the city. for the last two years, it has been bringing the organizations together to talk about how we can strengthen the partnership between the city and the community-based organizations. they provided great foundation for the community as a whole. the stronger the organizations are in being able to manage finances and programs with the city dollars, the better and stronger they are. this is an imp
[applause] supervisor campos: a queue. one of the recurring themes we're hearing from the speakers -- thank you. one of the recurring themes we're hearing from the speakers is the the programs are literally saving lives. how do we deal with that as a city? last year, we added about about $1.7 million in violence prevention funding. there is a real danger that a lot of that will be eliminated t. how do we deal with that? what happens in our community? >> i am with the health department. i...
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[chime] supervisor campos: thank you. is there any other member of the public that would like to speak? >> i would just like to make a quick statement showing that the sierra club is in support of the new scoping process and also that we are in strong support of local build-out of renewables. we look forward to having everything up and running. supervisor campos: any other member of the public that would like to speak? public comment is closed. i want to reiterate that it is great to see everyone here that has been involved, the community that everyone is working together and a lot of credit goes to the san francisco puc. i met with him in the last few days and i think it is that spirit that is translating and trickling down. madame clerk, call item number four. >> report on the city resources plan. >> jason fried, lafco staff. we will yield to sfpuc to present on this item. >> i am with the san francisco public utilities commission. i wanted to update you on the status of the resource plan. san francisco adopted a resour
[chime] supervisor campos: thank you. is there any other member of the public that would like to speak? >> i would just like to make a quick statement showing that the sierra club is in support of the new scoping process and also that we are in strong support of local build-out of renewables. we look forward to having everything up and running. supervisor campos: any other member of the public that would like to speak? public comment is closed. i want to reiterate that it is great to see...
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commissioner campos: thank you. next speaker please. is there anyone from the public that would like to comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. colleagues, can we continue this item to call of the chair? commissioner chiu: i know we have a representative from dph, if you have anything to say on the matter. >> director of environmental health. maybe i will make one point and just to give you a brief outline of where we are focusing our energy in this effort. i think the point about needing to understand the causes, i want to elaborate on that. needs to be a consensus about the causes and solutions. there is a lot of data to tell us, because as our, lots of best practices in europe and other places that show what the affect of solutions are. those solutions are generally not applied in the u.s. we are going to need to be the leader in the country in order to apply some of these solutions, and it will take a big public conversation, where these trade-offs are explicit. from the standpoint of causes, the department of p
commissioner campos: thank you. next speaker please. is there anyone from the public that would like to comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. colleagues, can we continue this item to call of the chair? commissioner chiu: i know we have a representative from dph, if you have anything to say on the matter. >> director of environmental health. maybe i will make one point and just to give you a brief outline of where we are focusing our energy in this effort. i think...
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supervisor campos: great. thank you. while we continue with the -- why don't we continue with the controller's office? >> i will continue with the key recommendations. ensure that sunol and crystal springs pay the correct event do and collect if they pay late. the puc should require them to submit an annual cpa report and make sure that report is timely. continue to manage leases. the impact -- the pc intends to collect balances due or late charges from both of their golf courses. they have not amended the leases sell an annual recommendation is required because it requires puc commission and board of supervisors. and the puc has proposed a real staffing of their organization. we will continue on, and i apologize for that, with administration of fixed rent. the objection of this audit was to -- the objective of the audit was to determine whether the pc adequately -- [inaudible] >> i apologize. supervisor campos: it is easy to get confused. >> sorry about that. supervisor campos: no problem. >> actually, we finished, so w
supervisor campos: great. thank you. while we continue with the -- why don't we continue with the controller's office? >> i will continue with the key recommendations. ensure that sunol and crystal springs pay the correct event do and collect if they pay late. the puc should require them to submit an annual cpa report and make sure that report is timely. continue to manage leases. the impact -- the pc intends to collect balances due or late charges from both of their golf courses. they...
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supervisor campos. supervisor campos: i think this kind of discussion might be more appropriate perhaps in closed session to the extent that we're talking about legal positions that impact the city. but i do want to, for the record, point out what at least the case law, the two cases that i have read independently say about this. you have the embassy versus city of santa monica where the court basically says that in that case you had a situation where there was an agreement between the city and the developer, and this is whether the court said -- what the court said, nor are we proceeded by the city citation to other statutes which waiver is specificallyly probated and the city accompanying that argument it is not prohibited and thus allowed. as we've seen the ellis act provides a contractual waiver is unenforceable. i mean, that's that case. and then you have the palmer versus city of los angeles case and again, it goes back to the issue of whether or not there is a waiver here that can happen. and thi
supervisor campos. supervisor campos: i think this kind of discussion might be more appropriate perhaps in closed session to the extent that we're talking about legal positions that impact the city. but i do want to, for the record, point out what at least the case law, the two cases that i have read independently say about this. you have the embassy versus city of santa monica where the court basically says that in that case you had a situation where there was an agreement between the city and...