and if it is reexported to canada or mexico or another and do it altogether and we are trying to leverage the foreign trade zone as another asset and try to crop up and enhance the business as well. >> great. >> that with wonderful. >> and i also want to thank them for the industrial uses and just (inaudible) the nature of some of the work that they are doing out there, i think that as commissioner brandon pointed out for too long, much of that area has had uses that have increased here and contamination in the area and i appreciate that we are looking at ways, of you know, reversing that and being more environmentally sound in terms of repurposing the materials and recycling, and you know, i applaud those efforts and just want to highlight that and want to make sure that we do keep that in mind so we look for going up there and i know that there say lot of effort and we try to send out the work for the tesla for the needs for example, it is the electric vehicles and there are other electric vehicles and manufacturers in the area and that want to do more out reach on that front. since we

identify that they have been to these regions or if they come through a border as they fly to canada or mexico. the possibility is there, but the possibility is there that we would miss one. it is easier to manage and control it when we know people are coming from and not intentionally frying to deceive it. >> you are listening to the continuing coverage of the congressional hearings into the ebola outbreak on u.s. soil. they have been calling it an epidemic. our guest in the studio taking issue with that phrase. also, while the speakers were speaking we learned that a yale university student is now being tested for ebola as well. the student spending a month in liberia, researching the outbreak, and then was admitted to yale new haven hospital with a fever last night. doctors expect the test results within the next 24 hours. a lot to get you caught up on, but we with are going to take a break in our coverage resumes in a few minutes. snot only shows the personal equipment, but details the odder never which it should be put on and removed. i would note sha shoe covers are not included in this

people could fly to canada or mexico and then drive in.e sense if things are different depending on which airport you fly into. >> dr. debbie, we appreciate it. >>> another woman who can understand what quarantined nurse kaci hickox is going through is louise trow. she was the family of thomas eric duncan, the man who died from ebola. on sunday she was finally able to attend church services for the first time since she was released from quarantine. it comes as some of the health care workers who treated duncan at that texas hospital speak out. one of the first nurses to care for duncan told cbs' "60 minutes" duncan was not truthful about his contact with ebola while he was in liberia. >> what information was it he denied to the health officials? >> about his travels. about his -- him burying his pregnant daughter who died in childbir childbirth. he denied he said it's not true. >> so he wasn't honest with them? >> yeah. >> rose and some of duncan's other nurses say the cdc protocols on the day duncan was hospitalized were deficient and one

identify that they've been to these affected regions or come through one of the borders, fly to canada or mexico, it's more difficult for us to do it, but the possibility is there. the possibility is also greater than we would miss one. i do agree with what the experts, you know, say, it's easier to manage it and control it when we know where people are coming from voluntarily and not intentionally trying to deceive us. >> gentleman's time expired. the word is voluntary. i recognize dr. burgess for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i would like to stay with what chairman upton was talking about on the travel restriction. the secretary of health and human services under the public health service act has the authority to issue a travel restriction. under the pandemic plan that was adopted in 2005, the president has the ability to issue a travel restriction. 2005 was geared toward the pandemic avian influenza but was amended in july of this year to include the hem more rajjic fever. i believe that authority very clearly exists. the question is why the executive branch and agency will not ex

safe and duties affected regions or if they come through one of the borders, if they fled to canada or mexico. it is more difficult for us to do it but the possibility is greater -- i do agree with what the experts say. it is easier to manage and control when we know where people are coming from voluntarily. "voluntary."s dr. burgess for five minutes. >> the secretary of health and human services has the authority to issue a travel restriction under the pandemic plan that was 2005, the president has the ability to issue a travel restriction. 2005 was geared towards the pandemic avian influenza but it was amended in july of this year to include hemorrhagic fever. i believe that authority very clearly exists. the question is why the executive branch or why the agency will not exercise that authority. mr. chairman, perhaps this committee should consider forwarding to the full house a request that we have a vote on travel restrictions because people are asking us to do that and i think they are exactly correct to make that request. , the first nurse who was infected over the weekend is being tran

can identify they have been to be infected regions if they come through one of the borders of canada or mexico it is more difficult for us to do it. but the possibilities greater -- i agree with what the experts say is easier to manage and control what we know about. not intentionally trying to deceive us. >> the word is voluntary. at recognize dr. burgess for five minutes. >> i would like to say what chairman upton was talking about on the travel restrictions this secretary of health and human services and public health service act has the authority to issue a travel restriction. under the pandemic plan adopted in 2005, the president has the ability to offer staff travel restriction. 2005 was geared toward the pandemic avian influenza but was to include the hemorrhagic fever so i believe that authority clearly exists. the question is why the executive branch in the agency will not exercise that authority. perhaps this committee should forward a request that we have a vote on travel restrictions because people are asking us to do that and i think they are exactly correct to make that request.

safe and duties affected regions or if they come through one of the borders, if they fled to canada or mexico. it is more difficult for us to do it but the possibility is greater -- i do agree with what the experts say. it is easier to manage and control when we know where people are coming from voluntarily. "voluntary."s dr. burgess for five minutes. >> the secretary of health and human services has the authority to issue a travel restriction under the pandemic plan that was 2005, the president has the ability to issue a travel restriction. 2005 was geared towards the pandemic avian influenza but it was amended in july of this year to include hemorrhagic fever. i believe that authority very clearly exists. the question is why the executive branch or why the agency will not exercise that authority. mr. chairman, perhaps this committee should consider forwarding to the full house a request that we have a vote on travel restrictions because people are asking us to do that and i think they are exactly correct to make that request. , the first nurse who was infected over the weekend is being tran

designed to protect victims of trafficking, unaccompanied minors entering the u.s., not from mexico or canadae not immediately returned to their country of origin. instead, they're granted a legal hearing. they may apply for special immigrant juvenile status or asigh lum if they claim to be fleeing persecution. the unprecedented number of children from central america is overwhelming this process. new york law school professor lenni benson is director of the safe passage project. a group that recruits and trains pro bono attorneys to represent immigrant youth. she says because immigration proceedings are not criminal proceeding, the u.s. government is not required to provide free counsel. >> the law is so technical and complex that for a child to navigate its court oersd without an attorney, it's impossible. the impact of not having an attorney is the difference between being able to stay in the country and become a lawful resident and being deported or living undocumented. >> reporter: the government has been trying to expedite the process by fast-tracking the child migrant cases through wha

ever see any -- anything that worried you about who is trying to come across borders either mexico or canada. >> always concerned about our two lapd borders and worked closely with mexico and canada, but never anything i saw that suggested isis had an effort to infiltrate. >> our jim sciutto reporting there and police say zehaf-bibeau's mother said he wanted to go to syria, another man who stayed in a homeless shelter with zehaf-bibeau said he told him he wanted to go to libya. meantime, canadian lawmakers didn't skip a beat back on the job and were led into the parliament by sergeant-at-arms kevin vickers who shot the gunman. seeing the scene there as vickers got a lengthy and well deserved standing ovation as he led the procession into the house of commons. didn't seem to show much emotion but he did release a statement thanking the security team there at the parliament. video from wednesday shows the vickers carrying his gun just moments after he shot and killed michael zehaf-bibeau. >>> now, remember that cease-fire announced last week between nigeria and boko haram. well, it's open to d

republican side but i know some on the democratic side as well, you are getting people to go to mexico or canada first recognizing this is good policy. i think there is good politics in this if people look at the hispanic american community as well. there's a political base to go forward with some of these issues. we have to get people to understand that foreign policy is not just what you are reporting daily as a hot story, but it is this story. with congress i have to say, again with both democrats and republicans i try to stay in touch on some of the trade issues. when you present these items and make the point about how this can help our economic competitiveness compared to other regions in the world, there's an audience for this. there are a number of people who said when you get the task force report, we would like to follow it up in different context. like anything else i think we have now provided -- now the question is can we get some political attention. >> let me add into this. we lay out a big vision for north america. and what it could be 10, 20 years. some of things to get us prett

boarders via mexico or canada? cerned about our two land boarders and worked closely with those countries, mexico and canada. there's they have anything i saw isis had an effort to infiltrate. >> reporter: while canadian authorities were awrar he wanted to travel to syria and fight, he was not under surveillance. police say they're monitoring that list with increased vigilance now. authorities are also investigating whether he received support for his attacks by others. >> all right, jim, appreciate the update. i want to bring in a member of parliament, david mcginty. thank you very much for with us. first of all, how is the city doing today? you represent part of the city. >> i do. i have tens of thousands of constituents working these buildings, business people, public servants, high tech sector in the region. they're struggling. this is a big shock for a city like ottawa. we haven't seen this kind of thing before. people are asking a lot of questions. >> a similar shock given it comes two days after another soldi

the fact that the secretary of commerce has been as active in actions with mexico and canada has been a real plus over the year or so we have done this report. there does need to be that. the reason is you have to have champions in our government for different regions, initiatives, activities. if you don't, they never get on the table until you are a week away from the summit and somebody says what are we going to talk about next week. is principals committee dominated by the crises of the day. arguably, right now we have more crises than you can even funnel through the situation room on a daily basis. it would be a tough time to be a deputy cabinet secretary. you would live down at the white house i would imagine. how do you get north america onto an agenda that is already overcrowded. invested in it that constantly push it back onto the table. >> the problem of living down the white house is part of the problem. we talk about champions. i want to draw it out because we have a lot of people in the audience who served in government. they probably have a sense of this. the problem is each agency is stuck in a rut.

our review of the passport, we can identify they've been to affected regions or come through a border, fly to canada, mexico, it's difficult for us to do it, but the possibility's there. the possibility is greater than we would miss one, so i do agree with what the experts say easier to manage and control when we know where people come from voluntarily, and not intentionally trying to deceive us. >> gentleman's time expired. key is voluntary. i recognize dr. burgess for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman, and i would like to stay with what the chairman was talking about on the travel restrictions. the secretary of health and human services under the services act has authority to issue travel restrictions under the pandemic plan adopted in 2005. the president has the ability to issue a travel restriction, 2005 was geared towards the pandemic bird flu, but amended this year to include this fever. i believe that authority very clearly exists. question is why the executive branch and why the agency will not exercise that authority, mr. chairman, i think, perhaps this committee should consider forwarding t

they say that this trip brings tourism dollars to san diego and mexico and most the people on the boats are from canada oriego. the figure out tracker is the largest selling a van on the coasts. coming up we have park rangers and tahoe cracking down on people taking sophie's what paris. will take a look at the photos that gaining attention. <

mexico. every single one has come here fromv13k canada or overseas inte airports withn1cñ i.d.s and legitimateuments. you have to understand how terrorist groups train and invest in their operatives coming here to blow stuff up. it is -- they put a lot of time and effort into training and funding these operatives that come here. so they're recruiting people who have -- who will pass the background check, who will go through customs and who have legitimate -- if they're fraudulent but i.d.s that will good through customs and they'll pass through, and they'll come here on a plane because, guess what, it is the easiest way to come here. yes, we have a lot of people that come across the border that are undetected but it is a hard and deadly journey, tmÑ spend years and millions of dollars to put a terrorist operation together, and send your operatives with a coyote who could kill them, leave them behind, when these guys could twist an ankle in the desert and die, get kidnapped and held hostage and then possibly get caught by border patrol? why do that? send them either through canada or give them

canada and mexico closed their borders with the united states. no country would receive planes that either originated from or transited through the united states. it was absolutely massive and up to in the end up to a million people died in the simulation from smallpox. the question is could this happen with ebola? >> it is a good question. we had a couple school systems shut down because of this and that's just a microcosm. you had a couple of people infected, at least we hope that is the end of it. we don't know. but what makes me think in world war ii you had bomb shelters, families constantly practicing what they would do if something were to happen. and i think there is a mentality in this country that, oh, it's never going to happen. that's how you end up with hospitals that have little baggies that say here's your ebola kit because it's not something we are willing for whatever reason to actually be prepared for. >> no. exactly. so if it's never going to happen, if thomas duncan can get on a plane knowing that he was exposed to it and come into the united states and fly to dallas, why couldn't an ebol

-derived in the sense of canada and mexico so heavily influenced by what happens in the u.s. about 11% oro europe in half of that is nondiscretionary, things that include beverages, tobacco, jobs, the things he will not say wow, if the economy is really tough come on taking half of lipitor, if it is doing great, i will take three lipitor. the amount of sales in europe are pretty to minimus in terms of the overall s&p, so overall, people are taking it a bit too far. >> tobias, i did you the small favor of reading your research know. [laughter] >> that is a "surveillance" exclusive, one of us actually read the note. it challengingnd to be that nervous about u.s. trends barring a new shock. you are a laid back guy. "eh."sence was >> i think people get a little too hyper at any point in time. people get frothy excited about fourth-quarter rally, santa claus is coming to town, that kind of idea. markety say wait, the was up 7%. so you never got to see the rebound, and that is why i am kind of cool about it. >> tobias levkovich with us. we will continue much more on the equity markets coming up

or maybe do some stops in issue. you are now starting to get people to go to mexico and to help go to canada first, recognizing this ispolicy and, frankly, there are some good politics in this if people look at the hispanic american committed as well. thursday public place to go forward with some of these issues but, frankly, we're to get people to understand that foreign policy is not just, your reporting daily instead of the hot story, but it's his story. >> with the congress i've to say, again with both democrats and republicans i try to stay in touch on some of trade issues, when you present these and to make a point about how this can help our economic competitiveness compared to other regions in the world, there's an audience for this. there's a number of people is that when you get the task force report we like to follow a different context. like anything else i think we have now provided the grist for the don't another question is can we get some political attention. >> let me add into this. we lay out a big vision for north america and where it could be 10, 20 years. some of things to get us pretty long way t

been to over the past four or five years have always brought up lone wolves as one of their major concerns. the reason, canada has a large muslim population. more so than mexico and therefore especially as it is a very open society perhaps with greater freedoms and protections of some of its citizens, it may be harder to track a terrorist or would-be terrorist in their territory than here. you can see where he was coming from. the problem with this canada shooting is that it's getting isis exactly what it wants, which is attention, recruiting, and it's helping drive a wedge between the nonmuslim and muslim community or it could if -- depends on how we respond. >> you make an excellent point. and then when you look at the numbers of people in canada versus the united states, we know that canada has acknowledged that in august there were 130 canadian citizens who have gone abroad to join these terrorist groups. that being the case with possible threats from the north, would that increase here as those fighters -- obviously the big concern when you talk to these experts, it's not just them going over, it's them coming back. >> i've got to say that is a valid con

has not a single one of them, not a single one has come from mexico, every single one has come through airports or the ports of entry from canada or overseas into the airports with ids and legitimate travel documents. you have to understand how terrorist groups train and invest in their operatives that are coming to blow stuff up. they put a lot of time and effort into training and funding these operatives that come here so they are recruiting people who will pass a backgrounds heck, go through customs and have a legitimate -- of their fraudulent there are ids the go through customs and will pass through and don't come on a plane because it is the easiest way to come here. we have a lot of people the come across the border and detected but that me tell you it is a hard and deadly journey, to spend years and millions of dollars to put a terrorist operation together and send your operatives with a coyote who could kill them when these guys could force an ankle in the desert and i and held hostage and possibly get caught by border patrol across the border. send them through canada or give them legitimate documents and send a monop

or may reduce and stop the major. you are now starting to get people to go to mexico and i hope canada first, recognizing this is goodthink there's some good politics to this that people look at the hispanic american community as well. there's a political base to go forward with some of these issues. we have to get people to understand that foreign policy is not just, you are reporting daily instead of a hot story but it's this story. >> with congress i have to say, again with both democrats and republicans i try to stay in touch on some of the trade issues. when you present these and you make the point about how this can help our economic competitiveness compared to other regions in the world, there's an audience for this. you are a number of people who said when you get the task force report would like to follow it up in different context. like anything else i think we have now provided -- now the question is can we get some political attention. >> let me add into this. we lay out a big vision for north america. and what it could be 10, 20 years. some of things to get us pretty long way there are you don't have to

secretary of commerce has been as active and actions with mexico in particular but also canada has been a real plus in our view over the course of the year or so that we have done this report. so certainly there does need to be that and the reason for that is you do have to have champions in our government for different regions and initiatives and activities and if you don't they never get on the table until you are a week away away from at your summit in some basis what are we going to talk about next week? so you know the principles committee is dominated by the crises of the day and arguably right now we have more crises than you can funnel through the situation room on a daily basis. it would be a tough time to be a definite deputy cabinet secretary right now. in fact he would live to the white house i would imagine. so how do you get north america onto an agenda that is already overcrowded? you give people that are invested in it and constantly push it back into the table. >> let me compliment this a little. we talk about champions and i want to draw it out a little bit because we have a lot of people in this audience who have served i

or from canada. a lot of people go to canada to buy their drugs, some people go to mexico.e should make sure that prices in the united states are not higher than they are elsewhere, particularly for companies that are based in the united states and have done innovation here and yet people in our nation are paying a whole lot more. to go back to my i.t. analogy, if we had spent the last 50 years trying to figure out how to get the price of million dollar inside mainframes down, it would not have mattered how much competition you introduced in the market. we needed pcs, smartphones, and they were not handed down from above. part of the international competition will help us in that respect. we appreciate your time. up next, we open our phones to you to talk about the issue of the economy and how it is playing in the 2014 election and what you want to hear from candidates when it comes to job creation. first, an update from c-span radio. >> the secret service said that the 20 three-year-old maryland man who climbed over the white house fence last night has been charged with fe