congress gave them this job, why are you going to punish them in the process of doing the best job they cando. >> $11 billion a lot of money when agents tell me yes we can do it, we put in computer systems that don't talk to each otr. >> steve forbes, the thing is americans are looking at the irs a little different. nobody likes to pay their taxes. on the other hand, now they are much me of an enforcement agency. they got a badge underneath thr lapel. that's kind of scary. they may not be asking for this but with that new role do they deserve new money? >> no. we saw a little over a year ago, two years ago t abuses within the irs which still haven't been addressed and the fact that the tax code is now something as liz says is entrapment they can interpret it anyway they want. that's frightening. to give this agency access to information about our health, most intimate personal information as part of enforcement, no way. >> steve, this s always been an agencyf which you were always guilty until proven innocent unlike most of the legal code of the united states they can close down that business