can i deduct my interests against -- can you deduct this? >> you can do this. you should check in with your tax advisor. the interest rate is 7%. just like when you go to close on a mortgage, there are financing fees that go on top of this. the bond rate is 7%. we are trying to keep that. we are getting some funding for the roleout of the -- rollout of the program. we are putting this forward at the get-go. we are offering this at 7%. and then, we think that after that grant, the interest rates will depend on market conditions. we are trying to keep this through the rollout of the program. as more finance providers become familair with the pace model, we will have a wider pool of finance providers. >> a perfect segue from kate 98, where does the financing comes from? -- come from? >> renewable funding is providing financing. private capital to fund the project. you went through a bidding process? >> it was very competitive and we are happy to be part of the team. >> will there be a limit on the size of solar power in a home? that is a good, broad question. can

and you can begin by asking how well can you build machine which is can do the things humans do. how well can we build machines that decide what chess piece to move where. if we pit gary kasparov against i.b.m. blue, occasionally blue will win. and if it played any one here it will win every time. (laughter) but we need to think about now build magazine which has got the manual dexterity of a five-year-old. pit a five-year-old's dexterity to manipulate a chess piece against the best robot, there's no competition. the five-year-old wins easily. and so we can say why is that the first problem of deciding what to move so easy and the control problem so hard. one reason is the five-year-old child will tell you. you need to solve what piece can move where. look at all possible movements a president end of the game and choose what makes you win. the algorithm is very simple. the problem is moves. but with fast computers and approximations we get close to the answer. when it comes to being dexterous it's very unyear problems you have to solve to be dexterous and there are real problems

can i have an impact?" >> parents are born to have an impact, just as children are born to take advantage of that impact. social interaction is absolutely critical forhe intellectual development of the child, number one. number two, as children go through these various developmental stages, their brain is particularly susceptible to acquiring new kinds of information. so exposing children widely to numbers games, to language if you want a child to learn a second language, it's critical that they begin this very early on. that you should be perfectly comfortable having the child be bilingual. in fact, they'll acquire a second language much, much more readily early in life than later on. and enjoying the children and seeing... having the child see how pleasurable the child's activity is for the parents. so i think interaction is key for assuring healthy outcome of it. >> rose: all right. our developing brain, that is our subject this evening. we have assembled for you a remarkable group of people, as i said,

there are things they can do right, and there are things they can do wrong. we need to develop many more supports for them, ways to bring them into the game of-of supporting recovery. and one of the things we haven't talked about, and i think we need to now, is-is really not to give up on an individual when they relapse. sure, yea. we don't give up on a diabetic when they have another episode or another issue they need to deal with. and that's true of any chronic disease, relapse is sort of normal. so i think the issue is how to use those relapses to help the individual understand what happened, what were the triggers, what are the things they can do to develop coping mechanisms to not have that happen again. there's lots of ways that are very positive about relapse in-in many ways. talk to us a little bit about the recovery community support programs, because in some states we do have a cadre of individuals who are in recovery who basically provide each other with the support networks, and-which are very effective. you know, i think this is-this came in some

anything you can do. look, listen and you can make a phone call, for example, we are working on a project in the marina that deals with it came to our attention some person who is a bicyclist noticed and timed one of the lights and discovered it was out of sequence much we got that over to dpt. they are correcting it. also in the course of correcting there were 2 contradictory work orders one with the state and city. you discover those things. van ness and lum bard are state highways. >> i will ltd. regina talk about that. well, the mta they have a specific traffic calming form you need a certain amount of residents that you send in. and they will come out and do a traffic calming analysis to give recommendations as to may be doing bulb outs or what have you. caveat is it's not necessarily one the most expedient methods. going back to the supervisor's office so that -- you can help because there may be things we can talk to dpt or mta and say, can we move this up? can we get this expedited and assist in t

how can communities, how can families begin to support considering the lack of extensive, you know, network of recovery support systems for youth, how can families and communities help? families and communities can help a lot. we have over a thousand what we call community coalitions. and a coalition is a group of interested people in a community coming together for a common goal. and what the coalition's job is, is to connect people to services, connect people with helping to restrict availability of drugs and alcohol in a community, to strengthen laws, policies, and get them enforced to working with your law enforcement officers and associate with the schools. so we, i would say that within every state we have a good handful of coalitions. we need many more. but every state office of behavioral health, alcohol and drugs or mental health should have a listing of those coalitions and i would say parents if they were really looking and were lost and didn't know how to maneuver the waters because some of what you're talking about is very true, i would call the state office first and get a con

you expect can you extrapolate on that what is the risk you're saying there is risk can you give us a percentage the you know the chances of something going wrong because the collider had some problems not long ago and they fixed it so it can break i suppose so what are the risks. it was actually running at the moment as far as i know and the risk is proportional to the number of collisions that are being made or have already been made. and the risk is absurd i mean. in nature you see there was some for somebody called bacon in the history of his of science who said that man has to fight with nature people don't know that anymore that it's it's sometimes dangerous to fight with nature and sometimes nature is fighting back in my experience here is that this is such a complicated situation it has happened that several problems have been overlooked which means that this is a trillion horse this experiment everybody is happy to have it but unfortunately it might mean the end of of the planet ok jordan that's a pretty big statement coming from that to this is this is just scaremongering.

you can do it on a dog. you can put a microchip in your cat or on a rabbit or a bird. so we can't stress enough how important it is to microchippure pet. check with your vet for microchipping if you want to get your pet microchipped for 10 dollars we will have it on october 28 in sharon meadows. we meet and we discuss with the san francisco vet medical association on what part the vets will play. there are 25 vet services in san francisco. each of them have agreed on what services they will provide for san francisco. also we have our other bay area shelters that will come and help. when we have a disaster as well as we will go and help a bay area when they have a disaster. we are able to and hopefully have enough help where we are able to take care of every animal in san francisco. thank you. >> good afternoon. michael peterson with pacific gas and electric director of emergency planning for pg and e. my timing was outstanding to do this presentation in front of residents that are pg and e customers the front page of the chronicle talked about what, your rates are goin

because what you discovered, i can imitate you, eric can imitate. so we ha culture. we are unable to imitate we have no culture because something discovered disappears. and monkey could not do that. so that's why we think in monkey is not for imitation but for understanding. and on the top of it, it goes up our capacity. >> i think there's a very important issue here. you use the word in and giacomo has written about that. it's a signal which you've discovered as aorrelate, a neurocorrelate of understanding another individual's action. and i think that goes mimicry, to me it always has anyhow. something very profound about how animals, people can communicate at a very deep level. so i think it's more than, to me it's been more than mimicry. >> can you imagine how much learning must go on. it's really sort of an implicit mechanism that doesn't involve motor movements. it's not thought that maybe children learn aspects of language acquisition by seeing their mothers move their mouth, the mother's mouth. the child sees that and learns to do this intuitively. it's really

the best customer service we can. when you do come over-the-counter it may provide additional review from the planning department or the bureau of street and mapping and other people like that. so, what happens when you come in with a project that has plans, or i should take a step back. or you come in with a project with no plans, right now, today, because we're going through a lot of process changes and so tomorrow might be different. actually tomorrow we're closed but monday might be different but today you would come in on the first floor and when you walk in on 1660 mission street you go to the right hand sides and there's a building inspector waiting to review your permit application. say you have much more complicated project and you're doing a bathroom remodel and your knocking out a wall to make a big master bathroom. you someone a plan and go to the fourth floor at 1660 mission street too the intake counter to do initial screening. at this stage what we're looking for is applicant information, scope of work

methane can be harvested for renewable energy. each well can operate from 10 to 20 years. a pilot study that is ongoing, sponsored by the epa, the plan is to bring about 400 tons of wet cake from the larger plan to, digesting the sludge and injected down the well. the process would monitor performance, reliability, and how much is covered. the project does not seem to be going very well but they are in the process of bringing a third well. they also need to inject the brine from reverse osmosis. unfortunately, we talked to this company a couple of times to get a preliminary look at the geological formation. we could not find it feasible location. when i asked them to look at the properties in alameda or santa clara. >> [inaudible] you said that this could be a product? >> los angeles is also drilling a deep well to dispose of the brine that is the concentrated wastes from reverse osmosis processes. the next is called supercritical water oxidation, a process that was developed several decades ago for hazardous waste treatment. it brings water to a high temperature and press

(music) if i can do it, anybody can do it. i'm no exception. i happen to be a professional, but i was also an inmate. upon studying for the bar exam, there was pressures as to your ability to concentrate and focus. i was dating someone whose father was a sports physician, and at their house were boxes of hydrocodone, sample boxes. and i did go to their house, i took 2 of the sample boxes that had 40 pills in them. my theory at the time, although yes, it was absolutely wrong to take pills out of someone's house that are not prescribed to me and do not belong to me, was after the bar exam, i will stop taking them. i did not think, "what if," and what actually turned out to be my story. (music) being in recovery, we have the option to not only change our lives but to change other peoples' lives. i wouldn't change a thing. i wouldn't take the arrests off my record. i wouldn't do anything to change where i am today. and i think it's important to tell people the message that we do recover. i'm a five-time convicted felon. and today and for the past o

so if something can be worked out with that, so that the harding park name can remain. >> that's never been divulged. and this agreement doesn't give it away either. we say and hear that we will work with them to develop any possible naming logo, branding like that. so we won't allow that to happen without input. president buell: we might not either. we might suggest that it comes back to the commission before it changes. >> right. we would normally do that anyway. the city reserves the right for that. i have my personal preferences of this which i won't give now, because that's not the position i'm in right now. but i can certainly under bo's sentiment. and i think we all can and i think it's very important to consider. we're going to balance this i don't think that calling it harding park is necessarily going to diminish its market ability. so i think there's ways that we can approach this by developing a logo or anything that we need and you will also know about this and get approval. vice president harrison: i go back to this issue that we all win when it gets maximum use and if th

protect it as best you can and that's all you can do. if you can put it in the yard, great. some people say i have it in the garage that may not be the best place. you do the best you can. >> we recommend you keep extra supplies at work and your car. so wherever you are you will have access to something. have shoe in your car will be helpful if you have dress shoes. >> how do you arrange to get businesses reimbursed after a disaster. >> we had the question in the morning session. currently we are at the state now we are trying to approach the businesses. before even doing that talking with the city to make sure we can the agreement to have them to get paid and so i'm not sure there is not much more i can say. >> and the red cross has the same thing. i can walk to a say way and say i will and and do your water supply for the chelter i'm running. i promise you we will pay you back. what we have done is gone and set up a written memorandum of understanding. a written contract we have. your disaster leaders and our shelter managers have copies so we can go in and say it's okay h

you can look at housing issues. how are you going to address the infrastructure as soon as the disaster strikes? one thing why i'm telling you this regardless of how much government helps you prepare you will have to depend on one another when a disaster come. it's your neighbors who will be the first responders in your community. the police officers and fire fighters, it takes time for them to get to everyone. you have to look out for yourself and your neighbors. come up with the housing strategies now. a plan ready inc., one of san francisco's emergency preparedness companies, provided us with the opportunity to do a survey of our community. we went down and took pictures of every property in the neighborhood. 2400 properties and they have up loaded those properties on their data base so we can see in real time and first responders can see where the special needs reside. where are the gas meters? where are our senior citizens living? where are our pets in the event of the disaster. this has helped us and there in

and you can. start. to. follow unwelcome the crosstalk on peter lavelle has the age of privacy come to an end internet based social networks are changing the way we live they are also forcing us to think again about the dividing line between what is public and what is private so what is the new world according to facebook. and you can. start. to discuss users as networks i'm joined by and in rome she is the information and privacy commissioner of ontario in washington we have christina garner she's an intellectual property attorney and in san francisco we cross to ben parr the coeditor of mashable dot com an internet news blog and another member of our crosstalk team on the hunger all right folks crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in interject any time you want first of all i'd like to go to and is the age of privacy coming to an end we hear that phrase a lot it didn't come from the c.e.o. of facebook but he's it's attributed to him. it's wrong the age of privacy will never come to an end

ideas if you can pay us back this fifteen dollars you can take us much. more if you want do you have a maximum amount that you give no not really because they asked for a very small amount because they know that if you take. big amount they cannot pay back this is somebody comes to your bank and ask for a million dollars would you would you make this no. i would not because first suspicion is he or she is not a poor person. there's only only the poor people because you don't have an official image we have one has to be. then this person people don't have any land it doesn't have a livelihood only thing he or she can do is to sell the service because there's nothing else to do either he or she works for somebody or. whatever a day laborer or something so that's how the survival is and we look at the house what kind of house he or she lives if she lives in a one room house then we say ok then if you have a solid roof on top of your will we have to wait because we are looking for people with one room but. and if you find someone like that we say if you have

change and minds can change and people can move on but we have to not be quiet about it and just keep pushing. >> thank you. yes? >> i'm with the water out of alexandria, virginia, i want to address legislative things but public engage meant. i think the most important things we can do in terms of communication with the hengs, is water is one voice. it's very important. when i say water, i mean water and waist water. it's very important that the message dare that i completely agree it has to be clear and distinct but right now we have echos and when we speak to washington there's an echo effect and we need to be one voice and i think that needs to be clear. >> thank you. yes? >> hi, i'm with the california public utilities commission. i watched the news last night and another senator was really claiming on the debate on global warming, gee, i think you're saying it's profitable for the green industries now and i'm thinking, of course it needs to be profitable and really the fossil fuel and oil industries that are making hundreds more times more profit and that's what drives this. if w

we know the kinds of stories that we can--we can hear and which resonate for us as a country. we're looking to tell stories in the world that do that. and if we don't, we're not going to capture that american audience, which is the audience we want to go for. we want to say, "america is listening," and invite the rest of the world in on the conversation. >> now, you've got a mix of told me about his job because i'm interested in your response. he said he thinks the future of journalism is going to revolve around what he described as, "leaner, meaner, more versatile types of journalists. the kind who will be able to report, write, blog, photograph, shoot video, edit video, and promote his or her own work through social networking sites," because that's what he's doing. >> true. >> can we do that and still... >> i'm doing it. i feel like we're already doing it. i mean, i'm shooting stills now, and i'm not bad. and i blog, although i hate that word. i-- >> you have a twitter account? >> i have half a million followers. and, to me, that's a two-way newspaper. you know, we have, wh

save one or two kids, if we can use popular culture, if we can use music, if we can use dance to geto those kids, that is our responsibility, and we should be doing that. i know you're very involved in reaching out to the youth. to get their attention with something they like to do, which is they like to hear, they like to sing along, and they like to dance to music, so i think we can reach them in that way, and there of th'váhrz which they are deaf to the adult language. i did forward to working with you in a different capacity. thank you. -- i look forward. president newlin: thank you, steve. any comment? seeing none, we will go to item six, commissioner comments. commissioner meko: just one item. i want to thank commissioner alan. it will be difficult to fill the seat. thank you very much. president newlin: same year. final item, item 7. seeing none, that will conclude the august 24 meeting of the entertainment commission. thank you. under one hour. >> about four years ago, [inaudible] look at how beautiful this was. there is our relationship to the planet. these regions are the w

can i help you? >> this is omar thornton, the shooter over here in manchester. >> reporter: thornton insisted he was finished with his rampage and tried to explain his deadly actions. >> you want to know the reason i shot. basically this is a racist place. >> yep, i understand that. >> they treat me bad over here. they treat all the other black employees bad over here too. so i just took it into my own hands and handled the problem. >> reporter: union officials say thornton who filed complaints about other work rules never filed a complaint about racism. surrounded by hartford distributor employees, the company president adamantly denied thornton's claims. >> i can state to you unequivocally that no such claim has ever been brought to the attention of our company. no such claim has been pursued under hartford distributors internal anti-discrimination and harassment policy. >> reporter: while thornton was telling a dispatcher his story, his co-workers, including a wounded victim, were frantically maki

the rule is 32 can do. i want everybody to say it with me. thirty-two can do. it's a three part rule. thirty, first part and 30 is respiration and it's the amount respirations per minute and if someone is breathing faster tha 30 times per minutes and it's about a breath every two second and if i breathe like this. that's about faster than 30 right? and if you have a patient breathing 30 seconds and they fail and tag them red and you move on. if someone is breathing normal than you go to the next rule. they pass and if go to the next rule. thirty-two is blood -- also ca called capillary refill and the blarch test and capillary refil and look ata palm of your hand or fingertips and the nail beds are usually pink and if you squeeze and do it on yourself right now and squeeze your finger and it turns right and when you let go the pink return and i hope everybody in the roo i hope the pink returns in two seconds and if the pink comes back in two seconds you pass an if it takes longer you fail and you tag red and move on to the next patient and we have two rules. thi

in other words, you can say, you can take your medication on a regular basis, or you can return to jail, and that is often a strong reason for people to go ahead and take me, madison. in terms of nevada county, where laura was killed, they have said they have only used it once, but only one person of action gone through the involuntary commitment, and they were able to engage people vote short of that mandate. but they do not have anywhere near the wonderful system like san francisco, who already has this. we're already inclined to get people engaged. we have a large number of programs. so we can all agree that there is this narrow situation. and in new york, which as the most experience, the research is not very good, and probably the thing that makes new york most different from us is that in new york, they do not have the cumbersome hearings. so it is simply easier in new york to require medication period. so they do not have all of the steps in hearings that the california law requires, whether or not the lago sport or not, so they are just able to get more people on medication inde

it can happen. tavis: i believe it can happen. what troubles me and many others watching right now, they probably empathize with the point i am trying to make, that is that it seems to me that the very church from which you come, the very church from which i come, has too many disparate opinions about that word compassion. i am talking about the examples popping into my head where i think the church, as we know it, is inconsistent on this notion of compassion. we are consistent on compassion where immigrants are concerned. we are inconsistent on compassion about this mosque in new york. we are inconsistent about compassion as far as the environment is concerned. i know people that are better to animals than to negros. i think you are right. i wonder bank it is more aspiration. the idea that we can and do. >> you are very pragmatic in your observation. what i try to do in the book is to call people back to the first 12 chapters of the book of acts, which is really the history of the church. those are the early days of the church in

"and i can take this signal. i can do this for one minute. i can do this." it's the way everything gets done. i watch the great tennis players on the planet -- roger federer, pete sampras, these people that are really masters at this game that i've played for so many years, not even close to those kinds of levels. they'll be in a tournament, they'll have a seeding, and they'll say, "here's the first round, here's the second round, here's the third round." there's no such thing as playing the fourth round before you've played the first round. when you get to the first round, you don't go out there and say, "well, i've got to beat this person in three sets." you say, "i'm going to think one serve at a time. i'm going to think one point at a time." and every great athlete -- i don't care who they are -- they will always say "i can't think out there in big ways. i can only think small." thinking small is what gets great things done. verse 63 -- "achieve greatness in little things. "take on difficulties while they are still easy. do great things while they are st

and we can locate our pipes, we can locate our valves, we can locate water meters that are out there. we've got small units installed in the distribution system. and they actually listen for leaks. we can schedule the repair, minimize its impacts to the surrounding community, and it minimizes cost, because obviously, if you've got a leak that's been leaking for sometime, you're going to see a lot of undermining of the roadways, potential property damage. fisher: all the sensors in the field come into this location. these two operators behind me operate the entire water system, 24/7. so we can see all of our reservoirs, their elevations, whether they're going up or down, how much water we're getting from our two treatment plants. we try to move it very quickly through the system and serve it to our customers in the most economic and efficient manner. narrator: las vegas serves as an example for cities across the country, whether they have a limited supply or not. and many utilities can identify with the struggles that come with maintaining underground assets to support a growing popula

night, knowing you have done the best you can do.n the other hand, we have promoters' coming into the area that has but obscure space that is not on anyone's radar, -- we are not going to have the resources to check everything, but i will tell you this. if we had something in place, having come upon that that night, my first question would have been -- commissioner meko: 6:çóÑishow mr permit. >> exactly. is this a licensed authorized hirer of security? commissioner meko: we are 1060. we are already seeing some serious gaps, so i hope we can continue that process. i have already added this question to the=p bottom of a lt of quite a few things that i think should be addressed. >> thank you. how will that information be available to the commission and shared so that it can benhñú, so the best of the security plans can be used to educate and mediate and bring the standards up at venues that may be falling behind? >> well, i think at minimum, in the very near future, i hope to bring you a document that is going togu be collaborative of r

you can get them into arguments. while we're doing some thing about it it's going to be more volatile and cause problems. what am i doing? i started say we live and everything we get in the delta but we spend a billion dollars to build a reservoir it spiked rates but we thought it was a right thing to do. we're part of a de salinization and we're now going to spend another hundred million dollars in moving. the delta is getting saltier and we think that will be a trend that's moving and particularly with some of the run off patterns so we'll invest in that. our 50 year water supply program. we will be 7 hundred thousand people whether we want to or not we were 3 hundred thousand. one of the fastest growing areas in north california. we're serving less water than we were when i got there. that's corner stone of our growth. anybody that does not know what that means what that means with respect to drought or any emergency you may have is not playing with affair deck. when you harden the demand you must have flexibility

here's what we can do. how can you help us? how can we work together. that's the key. organizations love coming to our meetings because it's not a c p complaints we try to keep it positive we work with the agencies and that's the key to it. >> we were going to have volunteers but i don't see them so we are doing it this way. [inaudible]. >> great question. the question posed was how do we engage the young professionals in our community? how do we pass up the time and speak from people who have been engaged in the organizing effort to the younger people coming up. >> we organize block parties where we have bands come that are basically we have parties. and people come out for parties [laughter]. that's the bottom line. we have bbq. they can get a beer at the local corner store. you know. >> we have apartments and condos all over our neighborhood it's the same thing. i'm telling you you have an event where there is music and food people will come. they just will. may be it won't be 200 people may be 50 people but the next time you do it you get another hundred people. i

they can call us up to 30 days. they can go all the way up to. commissioner alan: so if the city were to move toward some sort of recognition of business type that we loosely refer to as a promoter and there were to be by this commission a requirement of insurance, would their promoters that do regular promotions at a venue on a monthly basis -- i can think of several gay events that happen at various events around the city. they happen every month. they've been happening for years. those would differ or not from events that would be popping up as more one-time unknown commodity, not regular occurring. is there any differentiation between those two? and would the cost be annualized and therefore rused if it were -- reduced if it were a monthly event? >> if you have a promoter that does monthly events, i recommend having them do an annual policy. those policies can range from $1,200 to $1,500 a year. so with that, they can choose to do a per event policy. >> also, the security, they bear most of the responsibility. when you have somebody that prom

you can learn all about urban farming.r the young people, kings of leon, to the old school folks, al green out here. it's all day saturday and all day sunday. reporting live at golden gate park, christie smith, nbc bay area news. >> leon helm will be up there, too. >> great stuff, all you need to do is get to it as far as today goes, it's a rough day. >> let's talk about the outlands festival. you can take caltran up to the city and avoid the parking issues. it's a parking lot in livermore. 129 minutes, 120 minutes is two hours, so over a two-hour drive from the altamont pass in through livermore with no good alternate for you. westbound 590. if you expect folks, will you be waiting a long time. average travel speed, 6 miles per hour. some faster, some slower, approaching airway boulevard. that's the scream of the early morning accident. 4:30 is when the truck overturned spilling 20 tons of organic fertilizer on the road. this don they don't expect that to clear up any time soon. if you are heading through the area, make s

if it is a neighbor-neighbor problem and i can knock on the door and i can get two reasonable people to agree to disagree, but to act civilly and behavior modification of the dog, maybe it is a barking dog issue, or maybe it is one neighbor parking in one neighbor's driveway and they want to use the dog as an excuse to get back at them. all these things happen. eventually threes things may end up at vicious and dangerous dog court. the reason i don't hear cases is because i'm doing the investigation, and officer hicks will be the hearing officer. there is a little separation there. it would be like getting a speeding ticket from a traffic cop and going to court to protest it and the court that wrote you the ticket wants to know what the problem is. it seems an obvious thing, but we try to keep a separation with that. so we go through the vicious and dangerous dog process. the victim will say, this is what happened. the dog owner will say, this is what happened. we listen to all the winds and victims. we look at the prior history, and that's when officer licks really feels that -- off

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